View Full Version : Drilled the side view mirrors!
Rubimon
12-15-2006, 06:10 PM
I washed my Jeep today for the second time. The mirrors drip water for days and leave spots all over the side of the jeep. I read a thread about drilling a weep hole so I gave it a whirl. The first mirror I removed and tried doing the v-cut in the gasket like the thread said. (too much hassel) I ended up drilling a tiny hole underneath where the flat part of the mirror meets the round part (just above the gasket seal inside) and put it back on. I went to the other side and decided to just drill and not remove the mirror. My mirror was pissing like a race horse! Good quick fix! :thumbsup: The hole just needs to be tiny.
Piginajeep
12-15-2006, 06:38 PM
Pics?:yup:
Rubimon
12-16-2006, 12:17 AM
It's a little hard to see on the black.http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o57/Rubimon/IMG_7905-2.jpg
Robar
12-16-2006, 08:08 AM
Thanks the pic helped a bunch.
Did you drill straight in or go in at an upward angle?
Rubimon
12-16-2006, 10:12 AM
At a slight upward angle. It's just plastic so go slow. If you do it after you wash it water squirts right out as soon as it breaks through. I have to think a lot of that water seeps into your door panel after seeing how it mounts inside.
tolh13
12-16-2006, 10:49 AM
their be water in those mirrors.that was easy...and lots of water just sitting in side. thanks
2K1TJ
12-16-2006, 12:01 PM
mirror. My mirror was pissing like a race horse!
I've always wondered, do race horses really piss more than regular horses?? :confused: :rotflmao1:
Robar
12-16-2006, 12:19 PM
That was easy. Thanks for the tip.
I had green water draning out. I could have been raising skeetos.
Rubimon
12-16-2006, 12:53 PM
I've always wondered, do race horses really piss more than regular horses?? :confused: :rotflmao1:
No, just faster!:rotflmao1:
jeepinoutwest
12-16-2006, 01:53 PM
Non-race horses pee when the urge hits. Race horses have to hold their pee till they are done racing, hense more backup and pressure.
AZCA jeeper
12-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Did you drill the hole to drain liquid that may get stuck inside the mirror?
I just don't understand
Piginajeep
12-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Did you drill the hole to drain liquid that may get stuck inside the mirror?
I just don't understand
yeah, water gets stuck in the mirrors from washing the jeep or from rain/
markp_satx
12-17-2006, 05:11 AM
Rubimom - great quick fix. I drilled small holes with a Dremel tool and it works great!!! I had those ugly water/soap spots on the doors for days until it finally dried out in there.
HUMONGO
12-17-2006, 11:59 AM
Dude, Thanks!!! That was freaking awesome. I even took a hose to my mirrors to watch the water flow out again!!!
CHOPPER
12-21-2006, 12:29 AM
Dude, Thanks!!! That was freaking awesome. I even took a hose to my mirrors to watch the water flow out again!!!
LOL:rotflmao1: :rotflmao:
BAArcher
12-30-2006, 06:10 AM
Great post! It took me less than 3 minutes from reading this post to completing this mod. Took my new (Christmas) drill and had the two holes done with ease.
Thanks for the photo on this procedure, took out any guess work. Yes,...I did a checkout by pouring water into the mirror,............fantastic results and no $$ spent!:yup:
Rescue X
12-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Thanks Rubimon...quick easy and it works! You out to sell this idea to DC!
biglynny
12-30-2006, 12:58 PM
Hey- there was water in there- go figure. It has to be the easiest mod ever:rotflmao1:
AWSOME, thanks for the post. I hate it when i'm out trail'in and there is water spots on my doors. No more water spots on my nice clean Jeep ):rotflmao1:
Desert Dog
01-02-2007, 10:36 PM
I cant believe you guys drilled a hole in your mirrors.
The mirror fluid is a new DCX patent.
Works like anti-freeze, so you dont need mirror defrosters on cold days.
:thinking: :naw:
Heyspike
01-03-2007, 06:15 PM
Just a thought, but I do this with my Harley:yup:
I use a backpack blower and blow all the water off the bike. It works great! The air gets in all the nooks and crannies
The neighbors think I'm nuts, but who cares:rotflmao1:
Rubimon
01-03-2007, 07:16 PM
Just a thought, but I do this with my Harley:yup:
I use a backpack blower and blow all the water off the bike. It works great! The air gets in all the nooks and crannies
The neighbors think I'm nuts, but who cares:rotflmao1:
I do the same with my compressor. All the air in the world won't get all the water out of those mirrors!
BAArcher
01-04-2007, 05:57 PM
I would also bet that if you had the holes drilled in your mirrors, it would suck all of the water out when you got enough air flowing over the surface.
Rubimon
01-19-2007, 04:08 PM
By the way, I was washing my Jeep the other day. I hit my mirror with the hose and then counted to see how many seconds it took to drain. It had a steady stream for over 30 seconds. It holds more than I thought.
biglynny
01-20-2007, 09:00 AM
Once I got the drill and bit assembled it might have taken all of 15 seconds a side to line it up and drill the holes. Is this a mod?:rotflmao1:
Robar
01-20-2007, 09:22 AM
It's high speed and low drag, but it is a mod.:yup:
Rubimon
01-20-2007, 09:50 AM
Once I got the drill and bit assembled it might have taken all of 15 seconds a side to line it up and drill the holes. Is this a mod?:rotflmao1:
How could you ask such a question, it's the best bang for the buck mod on the board. Just look at the number of reviews and replies. 2nd place.:rotflmao1: Wait until everyone that didn't do it starts wondering :thinking: why their doors are rusting out at the bottom.
jpaddict
01-20-2007, 01:34 PM
Great mod! About 15 seconds per side. A rather large quantity of water flows out. Do it while the JK is new so you don't have rusty doors later.
Jeephrog
01-22-2007, 11:50 AM
Did mine the other day and it drained like a mutha'.
I have also noticed that water seems to drip from where the torx bolt goes in. I wonder if that just needs a tightening.
doojer
01-22-2007, 12:48 PM
Wait until everyone that didn't do it starts wondering :thinking: why their doors are rusting out at the bottom. Is this really possible? I honestly never cared about the drips because my JK is never clean for more than 10 minutes anyways and I rarely use soap....;) Do you really think that the water dripping out will rust the doors? And isn't this something that DC would have to fix if it happened?
Don't get me wrong, it's a great mod-- I just thought eliminating the drip was more of a beauty thing than an actual protective thing.... :thinking:
Rubimon
01-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Is this really possible? I honestly never cared about the drips because my JK is never clean for more than 10 minutes anyways and I rarely use soap....;) Do you really think that the water dripping out will rust the doors? And isn't this something that DC would have to fix if it happened?
Don't get me wrong, it's a great mod-- I just thought eliminating the drip was more of a beauty thing than an actual protective thing.... :thinking:
When I saw how much water the mirror holds and took one of my mirrors off, I can't imagine that some of that water doesn't drip through the two mounting holes in the doors also. Can't say for sure that it causes water to sit in the door, but now I dont have to worry about it. Take one mirror off and you be the judge. Do it after you wash and dry it, or maybe after a long rain.
mslc10
01-22-2007, 03:38 PM
did you actually have the door panel off?? and if so how does it come off?
Rubimon
01-22-2007, 07:20 PM
No, just the mirror.
Managain92
01-27-2007, 07:09 AM
My first modification and water is draining, of course it is raining as well. I know high risk, expensive. I really put my self out there.:rollingeyes:
biglynny
01-27-2007, 10:52 AM
My first modification and water is draining, of course it is raining as well. I know high risk, expensive. I really put my self out there.:rollingeyes:
You are a man who lives on the edge! :rotflmao1: In all honesty, I think we'll be glad we did it when other peoples doors are rusting out.
Rubimon
01-27-2007, 11:06 AM
My first modification and water is draining, of course it is raining as well. I know high risk, expensive. I really put my self out there.:rollingeyes:
baby steps, your next mod won't hurt so bad! I for one am proud of you.:thumbs:
nextreme
01-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Hey Rubimon, just wondering, is there steel right behind where you drilled that hole? Just curious if I have to worry about going to deep and hitting the steel of the door.
Thanks
Rubimon
01-27-2007, 04:31 PM
Hey Rubimon, just wondering, is there steel right behind where you drilled that hole? Just curious if I have to worry about going to deep and hitting the steel of the door.
Thanks
Well the mirror bumps out a little so you have a 1/4" or so of dead space. The mirror is plastic and drills real easy. so go slow dont, push real hard, and it is not a problem. I bet you could almost drill it with a drill bit by just twisting it in with your fingers.
Archer
01-27-2007, 04:52 PM
...........I use a backpack blower and blow all the water off the bike. It works great! The air gets in all the nooks and crannies........................:rotflmao1:
We tried this technique with our youngest child ...... works great never a sign of diaper rash ......... she does seem to get alot of gas though:thinking:
MJS_Jeep_888
01-29-2007, 05:32 AM
Well the mirror bumps out a little so you have a 1/4" or so of dead space. The mirror is plastic and drills real easy. so go slow dont, push real hard, and it is not a problem. I bet you could almost drill it with a drill bit by just twisting it in with your fingers.
Rubimon: Great thinking with the mirror drilling - sounds like a well-thought out and necessary "mod." :D When my JK arrives, I plan on doing the same (sounds perfectly logical, and if I hadn't been reading everyone's posts about the little "nuisances" they've had with their Jeeps, I would be surprised that DCX didn't come up with something similar). Again, good job.
Question, though: Have you experienced any sort of whistling from the drill hole at speed (highway)? I only ask becase side mirrors in general are a known source of wind noise in many vehicles, and I'm wondering if having a little hole for air to run into makes any sort of high-pitched squeal... I would imagine someone would have mentioned that if it was a problem, but figured I'd ask anyhow. :yup:
Thanks all.
HappyCurmudgeon
01-29-2007, 06:55 AM
It does, but only dogs can hear it, it makes them chase you. :D
Rubimon
01-29-2007, 07:16 AM
I thought that was the ladies whistling as I drove by. Now I am disappointed!
Nah, no whistle.:naw:
MJS_Jeep_888
01-29-2007, 07:17 AM
Cool - thanks guys. :)
I Do you really think that the water dripping out will rust the doors? And isn't this something that DC would have to fix if it happened?
I would be worried about standing water causing problems not dripping water.
DCX fixing doors after a few years because of a bad design :naw:
JKMAN
02-03-2007, 06:06 PM
The water drips, it just takes forever and you get annoying water marks down your doors for weeks. This is by far the best mod you can do for the money. It will likely get fixed down the road, the first couple years of a new model year there are always items they fix. It sucks buying the first year since they ALWAYS improve it year after year. I could not wait, my XJ was falling apart and needed something new and love the JK. It is worth the problems of a first year vehichle in my opinion. Why wait? you only live once...life is not worth waiting for...
fathomgreencamaro
02-13-2007, 08:24 PM
Rubimon,
What size drill bit are we talkin here?
Don't wanna go too big.
Thanks for the fix!
Rubimon
02-13-2007, 09:39 PM
Rubimon,
What size drill bit are we talkin here?
Don't wanna go too big.
Thanks for the fix!
About 5/64 or 3/32 is all you need. You could always go bigger if you want. You'll find drain a steady stream for about 30 seconds at that size.
Rubimon
02-14-2007, 09:10 AM
Hey this is cool! I thought it was just me and the Jeep was just marking territory for days after the bath.
Any merit in drilling lower or is this low enough.
Take one mirror off and look at it from the inside. It only takes a minute to take it off (2 torx bolts on the inside of the door. There is a rubber gasket running around the perimeter. The hole would be useless if you drilled through the gasket as no water would reach the hole. I drill just above the gasket. The second side I didn't take off, I just drilled about the same place. See photo at the beginning of the thread.
Seabee89
02-16-2007, 08:37 AM
Rub -
Unfortunately I can not see the image on my computer for some reason.
Could you try and give a 'plain language' description of where the hole clears the gasket?
Something like: centered left to right and about X/16" up from where the bottom of where the mirror meets the door.
Thanks for writing this idea up.
Rubimon
02-16-2007, 09:18 AM
Rub -
Unfortunately I can not see the image on my computer for some reason.
Could you try and give a 'plain language' description of where the hole clears the gasket?
Something like: centered left to right and about X/16" up from where the bottom of where the mirror meets the door.
Thanks for writing this idea up.
Its about 3/16" below the crotch where the mirror sticks out. Almost centered in that little smile formed by the bevel around the outermost ring and where the mirrir comes out.
Does that make sense? If not PM me with your email and I'll send you a jpeg.
moabmike
02-18-2007, 07:10 PM
I did it cause I like drilling holes in stuff:yup:
farbuckle
02-18-2007, 07:19 PM
It felt weird taking a drill to my new $25k vehicle, but it worked nicely.:yup:
PJRedd
02-19-2007, 09:56 AM
This is great, especially on a black JK. Did this after washing and it works perfectly. It really is amazing how much water is in there!
jeepik
02-19-2007, 06:24 PM
It felt weird taking a drill to my new $25k vehicle, but it worked nicely.:yup:
try doing it to a brand new $30k vehicle :)
PJRedd
02-20-2007, 09:03 AM
Yeah, that's exactly what my wife said when she saw me with the drill. "Why are you drilling holes in your brand new $30k Jeep?" It gets old trying to explain to her that a Jeep is not a car, it is an ongoing project that will never be finished.
HappyCurmudgeon
02-20-2007, 09:20 AM
Yeah, that's exactly what my wife said when she saw me with the drill. "Why are you drilling holes in your brand new $30k Jeep?" It gets old trying to explain to her that a Jeep is not a car, it is an ongoing project that will never be finished.
LMAO!
Mine gave up on me when i brought home a brand new motorcycle...
and had it all dismantled the next day down to the almost bare frame. :eek!:
She has since quit asking, she just does this -->:rollingeyes: :naw: and walks away muttering.
I consider it her own special little "Mod" club handshake of sorts... She is merely denoting her approval to my imaginative enthusiasm. :yup:
:D
2K1TJ
02-20-2007, 04:41 PM
Wow, over 6 pages and almost 4000 viewings on a thread about drilling a couple tiny holes in a piece of plastic!! :thinking: :D :D
Rubimon
02-20-2007, 05:01 PM
It ain't about the holes! It's all about the person who started the thread!:D
At least that's what I keep telling myself!:rotflmao1:
Gotta admit it though, it's a winner on the bang for the buck mod.
MJS_Jeep_888
02-21-2007, 03:45 AM
It ain't about the holes! It's all about the person who started the thread!:D
At least that's what I keep telling myself!:rotflmao1:
Gotta admit it though, it's a winner on the bang for the buck mod.
It's a definite winner for bang-for-the-buck, and it took some serious stones to be the pioneer and take a power drill to your new JK! What's that cliche I'm reaching for... something to do with the difference between genius and insanity being razor thin? :rotflmao1:
farbuckle
02-21-2007, 05:11 AM
try doing it to a brand new $30k vehicle :)
I've never had one of those! :D
Docwinkle
02-21-2007, 10:21 AM
Kinda nasty....I DID IT !!!!!!!!!!:rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:
It was fun and all the yuck that came out was awesome.. i had too keep sticking a stick in the hole cause the mud kept clogging it up:yup:
PeterBateman
02-21-2007, 11:59 AM
I drilled, but nothing came out. Its still cold here, so I'm hoping thats just it...I drill though the plastic, then space, then I hit something (didnt drill into that, I was careful)...
did others 'hit' something with your drill bit? or did I not drill in the right spot...trust me, I've used a drill before...
redWRANGLER
02-21-2007, 02:54 PM
Has anyone slipped and scratched their paint yet?
RubiconCheck
02-21-2007, 03:57 PM
After drilling mine, I thought what a waste of time it was bringing the drill out. I should've just brought out a pencil and jabbed it through the mirror housing. Soft plastic everywhere.
fathomgreencamaro
02-21-2007, 05:09 PM
I drilled mine today. Just after a car wash. Works great.
I drilled a little lower, about 1/8" abover the inner ring.
Figured I could get away with that because of the upward angle.
I steadied myself with my left hand on the upper door hinge.
Kind've like lining up a pool shot. Easy to control the depth
this way.
I made the hole a little right of center on the driver's side,
and a little left of center on the passenger side.
This was indicated by the stream of water dripping down
between the mirror mount and the door. Seemed like
that was the low spot for maximum drainage.
This was quick and easy and I am NOT as mechanically
inclined as most guys on here.
Thank you Rubimon!
Rubimon
02-21-2007, 07:09 PM
I drilled, but nothing came out. Its still cold here, so I'm hoping thats just it...I drill though the plastic, then space, then I hit something (didnt drill into that, I was careful)...
did others 'hit' something with your drill bit? or did I not drill in the right spot...trust me, I've used a drill before...
Just pour some water in your mirror and see if it comes out. Also, it takes literally 2 minutes to take the mirror off from the inside of the door. Two torx screws. Thats the best way to tell what you have done if you're worried.
Rubimon
02-21-2007, 07:15 PM
Thank you Rubimon!
You are quite welcome. Glad I could be part of such an intense mod!
It felt good didn't it! :yup: Now you're thinking :thinking: where else can I drill something? I have had my eye on those 7 little plastic troughs below the grill that I have to splash the water out of when I clean my Jeep. Tempting, tempting.
PeterBateman
02-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Just pour some water in your mirror and see if it comes out. Also, it takes literally 2 minutes to take the mirror off from the inside of the door. Two torx screws. Thats the best way to tell what you have done if you're worried.
ok thanks ill do that.
kaffeene
02-21-2007, 10:47 PM
Question, though: Have you experienced any sort of whistling from the drill hole at speed (highway)?
It lets bambi know your coming down the road and to not jump in front of you.
So I think when I finally get a JK I'll just go to the dealer with a Dewalt & 3/32 bit so as soon as I'm done signing I can go out and drill my mirrors.....:yup: you know, so I can be sure I never get water in my doors by doing this mod early.
And to see the reaction of the salesman.:eek!:
Wow, over 6 pages and almost 4000 viewings on a thread about drilling a couple tiny holes in a piece of plastic!! :thinking: :D :D
I just started page 8
Piginajeep
02-22-2007, 08:20 AM
Please stay on topic, which reminds me, I need to go drill my mirrors..:D
Rubimon
03-03-2007, 09:30 PM
I see a boatload of people getting their Jeeps. This is a must first mod!:yup:
TKJEEP
03-14-2007, 12:57 PM
I just drill mine and it pissed water like a race horse !!!
Thanks agian!!!
wolverine_man
03-14-2007, 01:24 PM
I drilled mine in the exact spot shown in the pic. They only drained a little bit (about 30 secs). Did I use too small of a bit? :thinking:
I've had my JK for about one month and there's been some snow and a tad bit of rain. But I park her in a garage. I washed her about 4 or 5 times.
Rubimon
03-14-2007, 01:31 PM
Thats what mine does, it streams out for about 30 seconds or so.
101gargoyles
03-15-2007, 11:29 AM
Take one mirror off and look at it from the inside. It only takes a minute to take it off (2 torx bolts on the inside of the door. There is a rubber gasket running around the perimeter. The hole would be useless if you drilled through the gasket as no water would reach the hole. I drill just above the gasket. The second side I didn't take off, I just drilled about the same place. See photo at the beginning of the thread.
You're the Mang for this one.
From the design/build work I've done at 3 D.C. plants and suppliers I can see this mirror assembly was designed by a commitee with "a failure to communicate".
The plastics guy did incorporate a limber/drain notch at the very bottom.
The foam gasket guy covered it up.
The body guy dislikes the 2 guys above and did covered his a_s by ensuring he didn't miss the standard drains at the bottom of all vehicle doors.
The anti corosion guy would have caught all this kwowing what he does about how saltspray from winter roads is the last thing you want in hidden areas such as DOORS....He was off work catching up on vacation time.
The ergonomics/usability guy didn't think 3" convex mirror inserts at the lower outboard corners of the main mirror would be needed because jeep owners never need to see their rear wheels.
The manager guy didn't notice all the above because his days are pretty much taken up with meetings. the bean counters-you know.
Anyhow. good catch Rubimon but I highly recommend everyone take OFF the mirrors to do the mod.
The guy on the doors-off build line installed my right side(pasenger's in N.A.) foam gasket folded over from about the 1 to 3 o'clock positions.Oh well, back to the parts counter for a new gasket.
Can't wait till they try to bill me for it!
HappyCurmudgeon
03-15-2007, 11:31 AM
You're the Mang for this one.
From the design/build work I've done at 3 D.C. plants and suppliers I can see this mirror assembly was designed by a commitee with "a failure to communicate".
The plastics guy did incorporate a limber/drain notch at the very bottom.
The foam gasket guy covered it up.
The body guy dislikes the 2 guys above and did covered his a_s by ensuring he didn't miss the standard drains at the bottom of all vehicle doors.
The anti corosion guy would have caught all this kwowing what he does about how saltspray from winter roads is the last thing you want in hidden areas such as DOORS....He was off work catching up on vacation time.
The ergonomics/usability guy didn't think 3" convex mirror inserts at the lower outboard corners of the main mirror would be needed because jeep owners never need to see their rear wheels.
The manager guy didn't notice all the above because his days are pretty much taken up with meetings. the bean counters-you know.
Anyhow. good catch Rubimon but I highly recommend everyone take OFF the mirrors to do the mod.
The guy on the doors-off build line installed my right side(pasenger's in N.A.) foam gasket folded over from about the 1 to 3 o'clock positions.Oh well, back to the parts counter for a new gasket.
Can't wait till they try to bill me for it!
Mang? Is there a shot for that? :D
101gargoyles
03-16-2007, 10:57 AM
HERE'S ONE FOR THE BOOKS!
Service counter guy didn't send me over to parts guy for a new gasket.
Because I was there anyway for them to do the first L.O.F. and once over he said they'd remove the mirror , take a peek and probably just unfold said squashed- beyond -repair gasket and remount.
I said PARDON........... Don't even........
Well when I went back they decided to order a complete mirror assy. Cant get just the gasket.
When I gave him the heads up about the drainage problem/cause/cure,his face went pale and he started the old warranty shpeel.
I said PARDON............Don't even........
cablerep79
03-16-2007, 05:02 PM
Just washing mine for the first time since drilling. No soap marks....THANK YOU!!!!!
BLKRUBI
03-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Drilled mine last night in the first rain, works great! Thanks Rubimon
glwood6
03-18-2007, 08:36 AM
Having seen these posts, I figured one day I'll see the need for this most essential mod....yesterday, after washing for the first time in weeks, sure enough the mirror trickle from behind the gasket was there...I decided to take the mirrors off to check out the back side, took all of about 30 seconds to do both. After referring to the official photo on page one, I drilled them both slowly, and I must say it is true that it is easier off the Jeep albeit not essential. Holey moley, it took all of about 10 seconds to drill both...thanks again Rubimon! I did notice the useless notch in the bottom of the mirror mount, filled up with gasket material...hmmm
glwood
Dr.McNinja
03-18-2007, 03:48 PM
Drilled mine today. Actually put 2 holes instead of 1, but they are smaller.
SiXeVeN
03-18-2007, 04:17 PM
WOW!!:eek!:
I had seen this thread earlier and thought it might be a minor issue at best.
Well, I washed the Jeep today and noticed the slow drip. I thought... "What the hell... I'll drill a small hole"
Damn if a SIZABLE amount of water didn't drain out!!!:eek!:
Nice Mod!! Very worth doing.
UberX
03-18-2007, 07:18 PM
Did mine today, along with removing all my cheesy stickers. looks real clean and drains like a race horse.
BJeepJK
03-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Well i just went out and drilled mine, 10:30pm out on the street drilling holes #3 and 4 into my Jeep ... the first 2 holes were to mout the licence plate frame, there were only 2 holes on the left side with a clip on the right ... 4 holes now (did that the 2nd day i had it) .
GOOD TIMES. ... easy mod and fun too.
AZCA jeeper
03-28-2007, 02:14 PM
Ughhh, you people didn't hear? DC made them that way incase people get stranded without water. All they have to do is tap into the mirror and a stream of water comes out for them to drink.:D ;)
I can't wait to get a JK and do my first ever mod....well at least on a jeep. I did remove a useless piece of plastic under the front bumper on my cousins Kia.:rotflmao1: LMAO
Piginajeep
03-28-2007, 02:16 PM
well, after installing a fulltraction ultimate lift, new bumper, winch, interior parts. AEM intake, and hell a couple more things
I decided I should have enough ability to drill out my mirrors.
I finally did this today... and keep wondering why i didnt do this 4 months ago...:yup:
Ridin out
03-28-2007, 02:24 PM
Damn - I guess I will be doing this as one of my first mods! Sounds like a goodun.... I hate water marks after a good Jeep bath.
First project i did is: drilling in the side mirror:yup: :toung:
MJS_Jeep_888
04-01-2007, 06:09 AM
So, I may be one of the biggest drilling procrastinators out there, as I went through the trouble of a CAI install, backseat removal, soft-top removal (from under hard-top) etc., etc., before I got around to the drilling... but FINALLY, the mirrors have been drilled! 5/32" (or was it 7/32"?) bit in a Dremel got 'er done - used whatever I could grab most easily that wasn't auger-sized.
My Jeep's covered in salt, sand, and some mud right now, and hasn't had a bath since the factory, so this mod will get to prove itself on the next nice day I pass by a carwash.
Thanks Rubimon - despite the recent "small mirrors on your vents" upskirt/doors-off mod :synister:, you're still the leading contender in the Jeep Academy's "Best Mod for those with NO budget category" voting... :thumbs::2thumbs:
russredx
04-01-2007, 06:19 AM
I finally did it, too.
It seemed to add about 3 horsepower and get rid of the water drip...all at the same time.
:D
RubiconToad
04-01-2007, 09:35 AM
I'll bet that this mod makes it to the next engineering improvement roundtable on Wrangler production. Mark my word, sometime in the near future, mirrors will come with a weep hole, or will be redesigned not to hold a gallon of water.
:2thumbs:
Currently on my way out to the garage to remove and drill my mirrors. Carry on.
Rubimon
04-01-2007, 11:24 AM
I'll bet that this mod makes it to the next engineering improvement roundtable on Wrangler production. Mark my word, sometime in the near future, mirrors will come with a weep hole, or will be redesigned not to hold a gallon of water.
:2thumbs:
Currently on my way out to the garage to remove and drill my mirrors. Carry on.
They already had a weep hole, they just decided to cover it with a gasket....:thinking:
HappyCurmudgeon
04-27-2007, 05:18 AM
They already had a weep hole, they just decided to cover it with a gasket....:thinking:
Well, i broke down and did this too.
Now the deer run away from me but the dogs chase me all over the place just like i thought.
No ladies whistling tho. http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r82/HappyCurmudgeon/Smilies/mad1.gif
jetsfan28
04-27-2007, 06:34 AM
I finally did it, too.
It seemed to add about 3 horsepower and get rid of the water drip...all at the same time.
:D
..Oh and don't forget that it adds 1.5 MPG..... per side.
TrAvELAr
04-27-2007, 07:39 AM
Drilled mine last weekend. I haven't washed her proper since, but judging from the rain we got last night, the results will be favorable.
At least I can't hear the water sloshing around inside the mirrors. :D
'07JK Fan
04-27-2007, 09:08 PM
Just finished... Great post and idea! Thx! Water didn't come rushing out, but it's been dry here the last couple of days for a change. I have come home from the car wash, wiped the spots they always miss and noticed the ever-present streak coming from the bottom of the mirrors.:confused::confused:
Kept wiping it off and it'd be there the next day. Stumbled on this thread and now makes complete sense! :yup:
This has to be the cheapest, best, quick mod out there! Thanks Rubimon! Took me only a few minutes!:cool:
Sidenote: using my Dremel seemed a little easier to control than a larger hirky drill, as one poster mentioned... in spite of the faster RPM's. Used another tapered grinding bit (I think) to clean up the holes.
CSnowss
04-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Took the drill to my mirrors today. Such a great idea! Haven't had a chance to run water through, but I'm sure I will soon. Took the mirrors off before drilling and found quite a bit of grit inside. Must be from hitting those mud puddles...
mlbplayer86
04-28-2007, 05:53 PM
Finished washing my jeep today, and like you have all said, and water just continues to drip down the side of my doors... :naw:
So i decided to drill my mirrors! I didnt have a drill handy but i did have a tool box handy with some super sharp and skinny screw drivers. So i just pushed really hard and just kept spinning until it went though (really soft plastic).
:jawdrop: Out came a ton of water! Thanks guys!
ScooterS
04-28-2007, 07:50 PM
I did it... Can't wait for it to stop raining to wash it.
4JEXEP4
04-30-2007, 08:36 AM
We all must think alike. Several weeks before coming across this thread I did the same thing. No more dripping. Seeing the pictures is like looking at my own mirrors.
07JKX
04-30-2007, 09:48 AM
Rubimom - great quick fix. I drilled small holes with a Dremel tool and it works great!!! I had those ugly water/soap spots on the doors for days until it finally dried out in there.
hot damn!!! thats what those little white spots are from??? i thought i was just smoking too much and the ash was gettin stuck to my jeep!... i didnt understand why it would right under the mirror though! thanks!
4JEXEP4
04-30-2007, 11:50 AM
hot damn!!! thats what those little white spots are from??? i thought i was just smoking too much and the ash was gettin stuck to my jeep!... i didnt understand why it would right under the mirror though! thanks!
07JKX That must be some good smoke you've got there.
USAF_GroundRat
04-30-2007, 01:16 PM
Drilled mine today! SUPER EASY!
JKStell
05-01-2007, 10:45 PM
I have to say I'm thouroughly impressed.
I got my JK on 1/9; only have washed it 2x! Actually it wasn't me, it was my Dad because he couldn't stand it so dirty from mudding and wheeling! School and work (an 8 day week...yes, 8 in total if you can figure that one out) impedes on washing vehicles and doing things for myself.
BUT, in rain and after the 2 washes I would have that thin scum line all the way down to the rocker panel. THANK GOD for this thread!
Not to beat the pissing race horse to death, but this HAS TO BE the best mod out there all things considered; anyone can do it, it's easy, it's appealing, and it's completely functional.
GOOD WORK!
only_in_my_jeep
05-02-2007, 10:28 AM
:D I guess I am a little late on the drilling. I had not noticed and water marks but then agian your jeep has to be clean to notice that. I was concentration too much on other things like removing tops, doors, installing safari tops, dodging rainstorms, and getting a new buisness off the ground. As soon as I can get the wife to steady the door so I can work on it (It's off the jeep and stored) I will pull both mirrors and drill them. I am not doing it for looks but rather to make the jeep last. I have already found out the paint is not as hard to scratch (and that means it does not protect well) as it needs to be. :mad:
jeepinoutwest
05-04-2007, 07:34 AM
I just did mine, my jeep is 7 months old, what water she was harbouring.
HappyCurmudgeon
05-04-2007, 07:52 AM
I am having trouble finding ear rings with posts big enough to fit the holes. :thinking:
'07JK Fan
05-04-2007, 09:15 PM
Finally got to take my JK for a wash tonight... actually two washes... My local car wash broke down mid-way through and I ended up trapped for 'bout 15 mins the 1st time. Didn't get a complete wash, so they told me to go through again.... Grrr.... :cursing: More on that later, but I did end up with a little leak in my Freedom Top... uhh... that's another thread, so don't wanna get off-track.
2nd time through and still no drip from the mirrors. I drilled 2 small holes ('bout 1/16") in each, one in the flat part of the base and one in the chamfered part just below the 1st. Don't know yet if both holes make a difference... Doubt it tho'
Saw Rubimon's post w/ pics showing the location, which is where I drilled 1st. Didn't see any improvement, but only because I didn't run though a car wash until now.
Then drilled lower, perpendicular to the chamfered/leading edge of the mirror base. Don't know if this has any benefit yet over Rubimon's version. The only reason I put 2 holes in mine was to be consistent on both sides, now that I've committed to drilling on my JK. :crazyeyes:
Can't wait to tomorrow to see the result...
Rubimon
05-04-2007, 09:39 PM
There is a gasket behind the chamfered edge so that hole may not do too much. Pore some water in your mirror to see what they do.
'07JK Fan
05-04-2007, 10:00 PM
There is a gasket behind the chamfered edge so that hole may not do too much. Pore some water in your mirror to see what they do.
Thanks! I'll give it a try. I did drill through the gasket & mirror base... I think... :rollingeyes:
'07JK Fan
05-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Just checked my doors this a.m. and no drips from the mirrors. Thanks again for the great idea Rubimon! :2thumbs:
Added: Just poured some water in to one of my mirrors... Indeed, most of the water comes out through the upper hole located as Rubimon indicated, with very little coming out of the lower hole I drilled. The last little bit trickles out through the lower hole after it has stopped coming out of the upper one. Overkill? Perhaps... Guess it's up to the individual.
AZToad
05-07-2007, 09:23 AM
Had to remove the mirrors entirely before drilling.
However, having done so, you'd certainly be safe given what folks have said to not remove them but what the heck - it took 3 more minutes to find the torx bit and remove them!
Sure enough, as described, this looks like a cluster! There is enough gasket foam to plug it up but not enough to stop it from posing a problem.
Given what I saw, I went the route of cutting the "V" in the foam to provide that little extra drain.
We don't get much water / rain here and what we get usually evaporates pretty quickly but the telltale signs were there. Dirt had already started caking in the area behind the gasket.
Can't wait to see them in a couple of weeks after a wash and dry session with the dust we get.
Of course, I'll have to take them apart again!
Ridin out
05-08-2007, 02:08 PM
This thread is still going strong. I did mine too - on Saturday when I washed it for the first time. I dried it off came back and saw the water running down the door. Then I remembered I was supposed to drill the mirrors - BAM! Drill in hand knocked that lil project out. Great fix!
bonedigger
05-09-2007, 10:42 AM
after five and a half months of continually wiping drips off my doors I finally decided to try drill the mirrors it took just a few seconds to do and then I went and washed my Jeep and to my surprise no more drips at all I don't exactly know why this works but it does. I should have done it months ago!!!!
angrisani20
05-21-2007, 01:39 PM
For a while i was doing the "drunken shaver" method LOL guys will know that when u cut yourself shaving u put little dabs of tissue paper over the cut and wait for it to stop. Likewise, I would wait for the first drop and place a little tear of towel over the drip while it sat and the sun...cleared up in hours....i drilled and its been much much easier! Betting the 2008s will have a tiny hole lol...
dunemobbin
05-25-2007, 09:43 PM
I live in one of the wettest places in the US (Washington State) and can't thank you enough.
"VOICE OF COMIC BOOK GUY" : Coolest mod ever!
Covert_Ops
05-27-2007, 06:45 PM
Did mine today... Like a race horse...
angrisani20
05-27-2007, 10:53 PM
I just did mine. I washed my Jeep yesterday and the draining appeared to have stopped. The min the drill got inside the mirror water poured out of both sides...nice easy 3 min mod....wow
SuTech
05-31-2007, 10:27 AM
This forum rocks. I was lurking for a bit before I bought my new JK Unlimited. I've had it about a couple weeks and gave it her first wash the other day. Seemed fine and then came the drizzle. Sucks that I had to drill a hole to fix a DC issue, but glad I hung around to remember this thread.
07 RBY
06-03-2007, 09:08 PM
AWSOME, thanks for the post. I hate it when i'm out trail'in and there is water spots on my doors. No more water spots on my nice clean Jeep ):rotflmao1:
You have a clean Jeep? I haven't washed mine yet, but I've only had it for a week.
lionhart
06-19-2007, 02:13 PM
I've had my Jeep since Jan. 6th, and today I finally got around to drilling the holes. Tested with the hose, and it works great!
JK_Jeep
07-02-2007, 06:57 PM
great mod, it works great
07 RBY
07-09-2007, 04:58 PM
Well i just went out and drilled mine, 10:30pm out on the street drilling holes #3 and 4 into my Jeep ... the first 2 holes were to mout the licence plate frame, there were only 2 holes on the left side with a clip on the right ... 4 holes now (did that the 2nd day i had it) .
GOOD TIMES. ... easy mod and fun too.
2 holes is all you need. You slide it into the clips on the right and two bumps appear on the right. then you put the 2 screws in on the left.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/lkd53/turtle/Jun07021.jpg
I drilled a 1/8" hole in mine and it helped, but not a lot. So went to 3/16", which helped more, but water still trickled out for hours. So took them off and just put a 1/4" wide V notch at the bottom and they don't drip for hours now, just a few minutes.
I finally drilled mine, but no water came out. It had been a few days since it got wet.
miguelylucy
07-09-2007, 08:12 PM
Drilled mine on Sunday best mod there is .. took only 2 min flat:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup:
GATECH
07-22-2007, 01:25 AM
Just did mine. Works like a champ! anything else I can drill a hole in? :)
Firedog73
08-14-2007, 10:06 PM
I drilled her today she was WET! I bet this will help rust control too.
Thank you! this is a Great Site!
Thank you all for sharing it makes us newbies feel smart!:yup:
Rubimon
08-14-2007, 10:36 PM
Gotta luv that mod! Who started that write-up anyway?:D
HollandSpartan
08-18-2007, 08:07 PM
Thanks for this thread. I was getting real sick of the water line which looked awful when it dried on my black paint.
I got a ton of water out of the passenger side, but nothing out of the drivers side.
Thanks for the great info.
Dave C.
LOL! I know, I know...I FINALLY did this mod after getting the JK washed today. I can't believe how much water was in those things. Man..whoever posted this thread..you kick ass :D :toung:
[N]UGE
08-29-2007, 06:53 AM
I drilled 2 holes in each mirror... one on the bottom side to drain majority of the water fast. It falls without dripping on the door. The second right at the bottom of the lip to drain any water left sitting in the bottom.
MJS_Jeep_888
08-29-2007, 07:12 AM
A few of us from CT had a meet-up last weekend, and one forum member had a VERY shiny, chromed-out Jeep that is obviously washed often. She was heard to remark "You know, I used to always have these damn water drips down the sides under the mirrors that would ruin the wash, but just recently I found a post from someone on jk-forum and drilled the mirrors." She went on to say that this made a big difference. Once again, good job Rubimon - you still win the award for best no-cost Jeep mod! :2thumbs:
:party:
amt97
08-29-2007, 01:00 PM
Wow, um, I was scared to do this mod. Drill? Holes? New Jeep? Uh ...
After I did it, I was scared at how easy and effective it was. I sloshed the hose in there just to see the results. Wowee ... It was a peein'!
Need a drill, anyone?
:)
Stucktj
08-29-2007, 06:40 PM
I called on the status of my JK today and they told me it was in code MD. I asked whats MD and the lady told me it was just added "Mirror Drill". And I was looking forward to doing it myself.:D
VOLJEEPX
08-30-2007, 01:17 PM
It works!!! It works!!! After riding around with huge water streaks on my Jeep for the last time, I drilled the mirrors. It's amazing how much water came out of those things! Thanks!
jetsfan28
08-30-2007, 04:58 PM
Ya know what gets me mad.... I drilled my mirrors the day after I got my JK, I never once got to experience the "water streaks down the door" thing. Drat.
(I do like to watch the jeep "pee" when I spray the mirrors... maybe I should see someone for that......)
Rubimon
08-30-2007, 06:09 PM
Ya know what gets me mad.... I drilled my mirrors the day after I got my JK, I never once got to experience the "water streaks down the door" thing. Drat.
(I do like to watch the jeep "pee" when I spray the mirrors... maybe I should see someone for that......)
Put some duct tape over the holes and enjoy!:D
AndyR
09-03-2007, 09:24 AM
This was today's "Official Labor Day Mod" - my Jeep is happy :D
Andy
rubicondave
09-03-2007, 04:07 PM
Did ours today also and it works great! Thanks for the great low buck mod:yup:
Take Care,
mkjeep
09-04-2007, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the quick mod. I was already thinking about drilling into my new Jeep but you made it easy to find the right place. This board is great!
I've had both a CJ-5 and a CJ-7, and they did not have any plastic crap on them. Wasn't sure about drilling plastic in the first brand-new Jeep I ever purchased. Keep the mods coming!:yup:
cjsdad
09-16-2007, 07:58 AM
Just did mine, 48 hrs after picking it up. I used a 1/16" bit; less noticable. Too small? It still took 5 minutes or so to stop draining.
nooch135
09-22-2007, 04:21 PM
What an awesome idea. I just washed the Jeep yesterday and was wiping water marks today. I found this thread, drilled the holes and Presto, water draining out.
Thanks!!!
zero2krazy
09-22-2007, 04:35 PM
Namely for after i take it though the car wash I grab under the mirror bracket and lift up. Not hard but I lift up with a little force to get it at an angle. It makes all the water run out of both holes I drilled. I believe the water gets in behind the mirror and pools there, and as you drive it bumps and runs down the inside and out into the round section of the bracket. Maybe its my imagination but its help stop the leakin for days problem.
par4bmw
09-23-2007, 12:40 AM
Just came across the thread and went to the garage. THANKS!!!
CIJeep
09-30-2007, 05:10 PM
I washed my Jeep today for the second time. The mirrors drip water for days and leave spots all over the side of the jeep. I read a thread about drilling a weep hole so I gave it a whirl. The first mirror I removed and tried doing the v-cut in the gasket like the thread said. (too much hassel) I ended up drilling a tiny hole underneath where the flat part of the mirror meets the round part (just above the gasket seal inside) and put it back on. I went to the other side and decided to just drill and not remove the mirror. My mirror was pissing like a race horse! Good quick fix! :thumbsup: The hole just needs to be tiny.
Rubimon, A huge heaping thanks for the post, it was on my TODO list to stop that annoying drip. Thanks to you 30 seconds front to back and it was done.
I had to sign up just to say.............. THANKS!
Rubimon
09-30-2007, 10:34 PM
Rubimon, A huge heaping thanks for the post, it was on my TODO list to stop that annoying drip. Thanks to you 30 seconds front to back and it was done.
I had to sign up just to say.............. THANKS!
You are welcome!:D
sirhcman
10-07-2007, 11:16 AM
Best mod ever, thanks Rubimon!
Rubimon
10-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Your Welcome!:2thumbs:
hiontach
10-07-2007, 02:12 PM
i think i really need to throw this out here now.
i've been thinking about drilling my mirrors... except....... the unit itself is COMPLETELY sealed: the mirror is attached to this hinge-thing but the inside is sealed off completely. i even used a hose and sprayed to see if there was something i couldn't see, nothing.
i dunno, i guess my mirror is completely different then everyone else's. i don't want to drill it because of getting water inside! :D
oh yeah, and i would take a picture, however i can't get it in that little crevace and the flash won't illimunate well enough to show everyone. :thinking:
Rubimon
10-07-2007, 02:38 PM
Fill your mirror with water and watch it dribble down the side of your Jeep all day. Better yet, take if for a drive and look at all the water spots down the side of the Jeep.
REL1203
10-13-2007, 07:41 AM
I finally did this today before I washed my car, it is rather amazing actually to see how much water just sits in there.... She was definitly a Peein
jpaddict
10-13-2007, 08:37 AM
The mirror mod should win Mod of the Year for 2007.
I like it better than my own Euro Code Headlamp install write up.:eek2:
JKinTN
10-14-2007, 10:56 AM
Done. Almost a necessity on black. Can't believe I waited over a month to do it. Removed dealer sticker and "X" sticker at the same time.
Lucas718
10-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Did mine today but got nothing but a dry hole. I guess I should have waited till we got some rain. I missed all the fun of seeing it drain all the water out. Maybe a trip to the car wash is in order. :D
Rubimon
10-15-2007, 12:08 PM
Well, just hit it with the hose!:yup:
I cant believe you guys drilled a hole in your mirrors.
The mirror fluid is a new DCX patent.
Works like anti-freeze, so you dont need mirror defrosters on cold days.
:thinking: :naw:
are serious..? because i almost went out and did it then read your post..
CARGUYS
10-16-2007, 01:08 PM
Drilled Hole Before Even Washing It For The First Time
Rubimon
10-16-2007, 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Desert Dog
I cant believe you guys drilled a hole in your mirrors.
The mirror fluid is a new DCX patent.
Works like anti-freeze, so you dont need mirror defrosters on cold days.
are serious..? because i almost went out and did it then read your post..
Don't believe everything you read on the internet!:sad2:
haha so true... so its not a new patent correct?
Rubimon
10-16-2007, 04:20 PM
Drill away my friend. :yup:
If it was a new patent it wouldn't work very well. The fluid just drips down the side of your Jeep for a week and then it's empty!:eek2:
JackMac4
10-16-2007, 05:50 PM
Don't believe everything you read on the internet!:sad2:
So you're saying the rumor of the little munchkin that hops out of my cubby in the back, runs around and breathes on the mirror then rubs it with his elbow to defrost it isn't true??? Say it ain't so! I thought that feature was standard! :naw:
mharper
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
I love all these quick and easy fixes, you guys really do know the JK very well.....now for me to tackle some harder jobs like my nav system, and some lights on the windshield....
Always good advice on here.
castle228
10-24-2007, 08:54 AM
Drilled my mirrors last weekend! :rock:
madiro
10-24-2007, 11:33 AM
Hey I'm planning on doing this but I want to make sure I'm drilling in the right areas. Is there any pics showing exact spots? If not can someone email me one.
Thanks~
Lucas718
10-24-2007, 12:02 PM
Hey I'm planning on doing this but I want to make sure I'm drilling in the right areas. Is there any pics showing exact spots? If not can someone email me one.
Thanks~
First page of this thread, third post
Phat Steve
11-06-2007, 02:22 PM
Got to be the best Mod for the price. finally did mine today water was puring out for at least three minutes. :ya: :rock:
seal20
11-06-2007, 03:19 PM
2 holes is all you need. You slide it into the clips on the right and two bumps appear on the right. then you put the 2 screws in on the left.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/lkd53/turtle/Jun07021.jpg
I finally drilled mine, but no water came out. It had been a few days since it got wet.
In CA we son't have holes on the bottom of our plates...
sgmrock
11-09-2007, 10:43 PM
Drilling away...in the AM
Tommy3rd
11-10-2007, 05:42 AM
that first hole hurt me more than it hurt the jeep.
i hope 5/32 wasn't too big. lots of fluid in there. I hope I didn't just drill the side mirror fluid tank.
C_Kyle
11-10-2007, 06:42 AM
My right side mirror pees out a nice stream, but my left side dribbles. They are both drilled in the same, measured spot.
REVERUP
11-10-2007, 12:10 PM
Add me to the count, just did it, my first mod.
The scary part really wasn't the drilling on my new jeep cause of the great instructions and pictures, but punching through the mirror and having a stream of water heading for my dremel's electric motor as I removed it.
Can you say new hair style!:eek2: :rotflmao2:
mobotix
11-11-2007, 08:46 PM
works like a charm. I've only had my JK for 4 days and water started spewing out immediately upon drilling.
Thanks!!!
Rubimon
11-11-2007, 09:04 PM
Great mod! Who started this thread anyway?:thinking: :D
Robofuzz
11-11-2007, 09:22 PM
My right side mirror pees out a nice stream, but my left side dribbles. They are both drilled in the same, measured spot.
They have medication for weak streams...
Rubimon
11-11-2007, 09:25 PM
My right side mirror pees out a nice stream, but my left side dribbles. They are both drilled in the same, measured spot.
Take the mirror of using the two torx bolts on the door. Maybe your gasket is folded over inside.:thinking:
gifford888
11-16-2007, 05:03 AM
Count me in -- I got drilled 5 minutes ago! :D
seal20
11-17-2007, 05:11 PM
Drilled mine, nothing came out. But, I've only washed the thing like 3 times and I live in SOCal....so, no rain. :bleh:
go wash and it you will see it pee :eek2: :rotflmao1:
seal20
11-17-2007, 05:26 PM
go wash and it you will see it pee :eek2: :rotflmao1:
Maybe I will then!!!! :rotflmao1:
Maybe I will then!!!! :rotflmao1:
SICKO! LOL :rotflmao1:
jakebsellin
11-19-2007, 03:54 PM
I called on the status of my JK today and they told me it was in code MD. I asked whats MD and the lady told me it was just added "Mirror Drill". And I was looking forward to doing it myself.:D
:LOL: :rotflmao1:
Stucktj
11-19-2007, 04:29 PM
I just did it last weekend. The hardest part was to get the drill press to stay square to the side of the truck.
Ctimrun
12-09-2007, 09:01 PM
I am not sure why I waited so long to do this. I did this today and I pulled the Jeep out of the garage just to fill the mirrors up and test it out. I was outside for like 20 minutes filling them up and watching it pee out. Then I had to go inside and pee myself
gee, I wonder why :thinking:
Rubimon
12-09-2007, 09:21 PM
I am not sure why I waited so long to do this. I did this today and I pulled the Jeep out of the garage just to fill the mirrors up and test it out. I was outside for like 20 minutes filling them up and watching it pee out. Then I had to go inside and pee myself
Someone needs to get back to work!:rotflmao1:
Goose
12-10-2007, 01:38 PM
Drilled today, unfortunately I waited until winter to do it, so any water in the mirrors is frozen.
Hmmm.... I guess it's a good excuse I can give my wife to drive to warmer weather. "But honey, I need to let my mirrors drain, we HAVE to go to the beach!"
fastboat
12-10-2007, 07:06 PM
I drilled mine a couple weeks ago. Took them both off, took 'em in the garage, used a pin vise to drill 'em, cut a notch around the weep hole at the bottom and put 'em back on. It took me all of 15 minutes. No more white streaks running down the side of the doors. Sweeeeeet!
I'm ready for my next mod.
I did mine the first day I had it. Great mod.
I drilled mine a couple weeks ago. Took them both off, took 'em in the garage, used a pin vise to drill 'em, cut a notch around the weep hole at the bottom and put 'em back on. It took me all of 15 minutes. No more white streaks running down the side of the doors. Sweeeeeet!
I'm ready for my next mod.
Why drill 'em and cut the groove in the gasket to let the factory weep hole do its job? One or the other would have done it. Personally I didn't like the idea of drilling holes where they would be visible so I removed mine and cut the gasket to let the mirror base drain as it was designed to do. Not sure why the engineers went to the trouble of designing a weep hole and then sealed it up with a gasket :thinking: Probably the same guys that specified beer cans for sheet metal :crazyeyes:
NE Wrangling
12-17-2007, 06:04 PM
I'm with you CJK, just fix the design flaw with the gasket. Talked to the service center and they said the same thing, slice the gaskets a little so it weeps as this was what was supose to be done originally.
jakebsellin
12-22-2007, 04:48 AM
Why drill 'em and cut the groove in the gasket to let the factory weep hole do its job? One or the other would have done it. Personally I didn't like the idea of drilling holes where they would be visible so I removed mine and cut the gasket to let the mirror base drain as it was designed to do. Not sure why the engineers went to the trouble of designing a weep hole and then sealed it up with a gasket :thinking: Probably the same guys that specified beer cans for sheet metal :crazyeyes:
Any pictures?
http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/MirrorGasket.jpg
This shows the little groove molded into the mirror base along with the foam gasket that I cut to let the water actually get to the drain hole. Hope it helps you out!
Rubimon
12-22-2007, 11:42 PM
Real men drill!:D
flacacub60
12-25-2007, 01:56 PM
hi does this need to be done to the 2008 jk? I didn't see any signs of the wholes in my mirrors.
jakebsellin
12-25-2007, 05:00 PM
http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/MirrorGasket.jpg
This shows the little groove molded into the mirror base along with the foam gasket that I cut to let the water actually get to the drain hole. Hope it helps you out!
So was the little cut out on the bottom edge already there?? And you just cut of the foam obove it right? Thank you!
brattwurzt
01-05-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm holding off on this mod until enough people have done it
Don't want to be to hasty
:bleh:
Splash
01-06-2008, 07:35 AM
I don't see the point in drilling into the plastic at all.
As several others mentioned in this thread, I just took them off and cut the gasket away from the weep hole that is already formed into the unit.
Works as it was designed to.
Rubimon
01-06-2008, 11:39 AM
I don't see the point in drilling into the plastic at all.
As several others mentioned in this thread, I just took them off and cut the gasket away from the weep hole that is already formed into the unit.
Works as it was designed to.
When I pee I like it to squirt out not run down my leg all day!:rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:
Splash
01-06-2008, 12:19 PM
When I pee I like it to squirt out not run down my leg all day!:rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:
Well, I'm 50 years old, so I can relate.
But regarding the mirrors ... mine seems to drain fine through the weep notch now that the gasket isn't blocking it.
Mileage varies, I guess.
riverzendz
01-06-2008, 01:37 PM
I drilled mine and it works like a charm. The slow dribble was annoying and now, holy cow, the things do piss! Ha!
reynolr
01-06-2008, 02:53 PM
I finally drilled mine too. I have only washed mine one time since I took delivery in late August 07 and it only rains about every three or four months down here in "North Mexico" but this was just too sensible and too easy to not do.
uofawildcats
01-13-2008, 05:06 PM
I don't see the point in drilling into the plastic at all.
As several others mentioned in this thread, I just took them off and cut the gasket away from the weep hole that is already formed into the unit.
Works as it was designed to.
I agree with Splash. It doesn't make sense to drill into the plastic now that we know the interior design flaw. It took me less than 10 minutes to remove both mirrors, cut a "V" into each gasket right over the pre-existing weep hole, and reattach the mirrors.
Rubimon
01-13-2008, 08:02 PM
I agree with Splash. It doesn't make sense to drill into the plastic now that we know the interior design flaw. It took me less than 10 minutes to remove both mirrors, cut a "V" into each gasket right over the pre-existing weep hole, and reattach the mirrors.
A gasket with a v-notch is not a gasket!:rotflmao1:
Robar
01-13-2008, 08:05 PM
A gasket with a v-notch is not a gasket!:rotflmao1:
I don't see why all these 2008ers are coming in here stirring the pot and challenging the Rubimon side view mirror mod.
Rubimon
01-13-2008, 08:26 PM
I don't see why all these 2008ers are coming in here stirring the pot and challenging the Rubimon side view mirror mod.
Ya, I've never seen so many people with :eek2: :eek2: TRYPOPHOBIA:eek2: :eek2:
boots
01-13-2008, 08:33 PM
Great MOD ! I did mying today while I was cleaning out the Garage. Took all of 3.75 min. :thinking: Ok, 5 min.......
scouter4life
01-13-2008, 10:12 PM
This was the first mod I did, I like that it does not drain down the door.
RubiRedJK
01-18-2008, 12:55 PM
:eek2: :eek2: TRYPOPHOBIA:eek2: :eek2:
TRYPOPHOBIA - Intense fear of small tiny holes.
Genius! Just like your "mod"!
jetsfan28
01-18-2008, 01:00 PM
TRYPOPHOBIA - Intense fear of small tiny holes.
Genius! Just like your "mod"!
... but do we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall??:bleh:
myklt8
01-19-2008, 12:13 PM
Drilled the holes, Damn how did they hold that much water?
RubiRedJK
01-19-2008, 04:34 PM
... but do we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall??:bleh:
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
jetsfan28
01-19-2008, 06:56 PM
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
That took a few days... but THANK YOU!:yup:
kcpanther
01-26-2008, 05:36 PM
good mod and no more water drains down the door.
took all of 15 seconds
jkkat
01-27-2008, 06:44 AM
WOW 218 posts about a 30 second mod on our new jeeps that takes litterally amost NO money to due ( if you do not count the money for a drill and bit).
Doing the Red Ruby today and the black Ruby after it comes out of the body shop on tuesday.
Kat
mcds99
01-29-2008, 10:47 AM
Rubimom - great quick fix. I drilled small holes with a Dremel tool and it works great!!! I had those ugly water/soap spots on the doors for days until it finally dried out in there.
Ogh, Ogh, Ogh annother use for my Dremel!
nclehmann
02-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Just made the holes - took about 30 seconds total! No water came out...but maybe that's because it hasn't rained since I got the Jeep 3 weeks ago! :crazyeyes:
Thanks for the mod tip!
Deuce81
02-07-2008, 02:45 PM
My wife saw me drilling into the side of my jeep and started freaking out. She just couldn't understand why I was taking a drill to a brand new jeep. As I was trying to explain to her she just shook her head and said "I think you have inhaled too much JP-8 fumes at work."
O well :D
Zulu1
02-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Wow that was a lot of posts to read...........
I love free mods. I did a ton of them on my 05 Rubicon SWB.
I'll be drilling holes as soon as my wife comes home long enough to let me run out to the garage and get the drill..
She hated the 05. I came home with the JK on Wednesday night last week and I can't get her to drive her own car any more (08 Miata PRHT).
I want to do mods............... oh yea I did buy a decal a few minutes ago...
lunkhead22
02-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Just got my Sahara tonite. Drilling mirrors tomorrow.
IndianaJK
02-11-2008, 06:16 AM
I took my mirrors off and saw no reason to drill the case. Just trim the foam gasket so the water can run out.
I cut mine a little wider and with a new razor.
I did not take my mirror off the door. Just pop the mirror off and pull the outer cover off. You can do the mod without removing the mirror base from the door.
This is not my picture(but shows the mod) He took the mirror off the door.
http://my.project-jk.com/data/500/MirrorGasket1.jpg
Cut a small notch out of the foam gasket so the water can drain out. Works great for me and no hole in the mirror.
HappyCurmudgeon
02-11-2008, 06:27 AM
to save weight. :bleh:
smack2020
02-11-2008, 06:51 AM
something to do, especially with a power tool.
HappyCurmudgeon
02-11-2008, 07:18 AM
KACHING! We have a winner! :D
something to do, especially with a power tool.
Any reason to go play with power tools and Jeeps is a winner. :yup:
nclehmann
02-11-2008, 07:35 AM
Peer pressure. :yup:
Everyone's doing it. :crazyeyes:
hiontach
02-11-2008, 07:40 AM
iv never had a problem with them dripping in the first place lol
yup :yup: mine is the same too! haha
Rubimon
02-11-2008, 09:57 AM
Sounds like another serious case of "trypophobia". Better have that checked out.
The v-notch isn't going to do crap. If you want to get to the water you need to cut through the gasket.:eek2: But now you've compromised the purpose of the gasket in the first place, to keep the water from seeping into your doors.
You go ahead and cut your gasket and let the water dribble down your Jeep all day. I choose to have mine pee like a real man!:rotflmao1:
If this mod is difficult for you to do, wait till you try the grab handle mod. You have to take a perfectly good handle and make two holes in it. Some even pound in a grommet!:bleh::rotflmao1:
jeepgreensahara
02-11-2008, 10:17 AM
to save weight. :bleh:
It should add about 0.0000001 mpg :yup:
Robar
02-11-2008, 10:27 AM
Drilling holes in the mirrors is a true sign that you are a JK-Forum member. Any one can put a sticker on their JK, but only a true member would drill the mirrors. It is a sign of authentication.
desert08
02-11-2008, 10:49 AM
Has this issue ever been addressed by Jeep? If not, how may we contact Jeep?
Sorry, if this is a repeat posting.
jkkat
02-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Drilling holes in the mirrors is a true sign that you are a JK-Forum member. Any one can put a sticker on their JK, but only a true member would drill the mirrors. It is a sign of authentication.
Oh poop i better get out there right now in the pouring rain and get mine drilled so that i may be graced with being a properly Authentic member of this forum. :eek2:
HappyCurmudgeon
02-11-2008, 11:11 AM
Oh poop i better get out there right now in the pouring rain and get mine drilled so that i may be graced with being a properly Authentic member of this forum. :eek2:
Awesome! It takes a real Jeeper to use power tools in a downpour! :eek2:
wayland1985
02-11-2008, 11:16 AM
Because drilling is a lot easier than ripping the mirror off! 2 seconds with a drill and you're done... No Joke.
I did mine... 1 week after I bought her. I felt so accomplished, and was shocked when I pulled the bit out to see a stead stream of water come out!
dlud51
02-11-2008, 11:23 AM
Can someone please post a pic of exactly where you drilled...the freakin streak marks on my jeep from the mirror are driving me crazy.
jkkat
02-11-2008, 11:24 AM
Awesome! It takes a real Jeeper to use power tools in a downpour! :eek2:
Pics.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/JKkat/100_1558.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/JKkat/100_1559.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/JKkat/100_1560.jpg
justinstoffregen
02-11-2008, 11:28 AM
iv never had a problem with them dripping in the first place lol
x2..............................
pkdailey4
02-11-2008, 12:26 PM
If the mounts have gaskets on them,why is there water behind them ?How is the water getting in? Please be nice to me, I'm mentaly challanged and my parental units don't incourage me to play with tungsten coated drill bits. ps.... Is it possible those lights over the hood could be waterlogged also ? If I were DC I would just rename them Mopar mirrors w/ external emergency water reserve tanks
jkkat
02-11-2008, 12:39 PM
if you look at your mirror close there is a gap between the mirror part its self and the housing, also under the mirror housing where it attaches to the arm is where water gets in.
Those lights are fine, i did check those as well and it was raining when i took thses photos, Oh wait.................................
when does it NOT rain in the Seattle area.
Kat
pkdailey4
02-11-2008, 12:45 PM
People in the Northwest don't tan. they rust.
TiredIronGRB
02-11-2008, 07:34 PM
I drilled mine so in a few years when the thing is beat to crap I can laugh thinking about when I worried about dribble marks.
hiteck
02-11-2008, 08:51 PM
Mine just started dribbling down the door this past weekend...guess I get to become a true JK-Forum member now:crazyeyes:
Rubimon
02-11-2008, 10:38 PM
If the mounts have gaskets on them,why is there water behind them ?How is the water getting in? Please be nice to me, I'm mentaly challanged and my parental units don't incourage me to play with tungsten coated drill bits. ps.... Is it possible those lights over the hood could be waterlogged also ? If I were DC I would just rename them Mopar mirrors w/ external emergency water reserve tanks
I think the mirrors must hold about a pint of water. the whole thing is hollow. When I wash mine and hit it with the hose, it pees for like 30 seconds. JKKat drilled about a 1/4 hole, that thing probably drains instantly. My holes are probably an 1/8 or less.
Rubimon
02-11-2008, 10:38 PM
I drilled mine so in a few years when the thing is beat to crap I can laugh thinking about when I worried about dribble marks.
Or two little holes!:crazyeyes::crazyeyes:
swampdonkey
02-12-2008, 09:09 AM
Don't do what I did and have 10 beers then drill it. Missed the mirror and drilled thru the trail rated badge.
not really......just wanted to scare those who have not drilled!:bleh:
desert08
02-17-2008, 08:44 AM
:thinking:I can't find the extension chord. The drill won't reach outside the house. Old School.
Rubimon
02-17-2008, 09:53 AM
:thinking:I can't find the extension chord. The drill won't reach outside the house. Old School.
I bet you could just heat up a nail with a torch and push it through, it's just plastic.
riverzendz
02-17-2008, 10:37 AM
:thinking:I can't find the extension chord. The drill won't reach outside the house. Old School.
Take your mirror off and drill it inside the house?
RubiRedJK
02-17-2008, 04:31 PM
Add me to the list of those who have drilled their mirrors.
JulietKilo
02-28-2008, 04:30 PM
Here are the few steps I took to drill mine out. I didnt want to leave a nick on the soft plastic of the Jeep (i will allow a tree or rock to do that for me).
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/th_DSCN1994.jpg (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/DSCN1994.jpg)
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/th_DSCN1995.jpg (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/DSCN1995.jpg)
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/th_DSCN1996.jpg (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/jeepstuff/2008%20Jeep%20Wrangler%20Unlimited%20Rubicon/drilled%20mirror%20holes/DSCN1996.jpg)
muttschu
02-28-2008, 04:38 PM
Take your mirror off and drill it inside the house?
You are one smart dude.
X-Type
03-01-2008, 08:29 PM
... and I'm Done.
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