Rear cargo tiedown anchors

[gpwpat]

while loading up the back of my new JK unlimited, I noticed I had no place to anchor down my cargo net. I use this to keep things in the back. In the city it keeps strollers where they belong in case of an accident. In the trail it keeps things from shifting and in their place.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04284.JPG
So I had these D rings that I pirated from my old 4runner but the parts could probably be purchased from a hardware store.

parts needed

2- D rings
1- nutsert
1- nutsert intalation tool

Basically the perfect area for the D rings is already there. on either side of the hidden compartment, there is a recess. the D rings can be bolted down in this area without impeading operation of the rear door. Also it must look profeshional and look like it came that way from the factory.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04286.JPG
first place the D ring exactly where you want it. and start to drill through the carpet. this will not only open a hole in the carpet for the bolt to pass through but also start to drill in the body below, so you can flip up the carpet and drill the hole and they will be perfectly aligned when done.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04287.JPG
Next place the nutsert in the hole. These basically work like rivits in the effect that you put the tool in and a bolt. as you tighten the bolt it mushrooms the blind side and grips the sheat metal. In the end you have a perfect threaded hole and being that this area is sealed and you can not get in there to install a nut it is the perfect part to use. 1 nutsert and tool will cost about 3 bucks.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04289.JPG

here are the parts laid out. the nut sert is already installed in the hole.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04288.JPG

Here the bolt is being tightened and the nutsert is being mushroomed.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04287.JPG

Here the job is done and ready to put the carpet back down and install the D ring

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/DSC04282.JPG

Here is the D ring bolted into the Nutsert.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04285.JPG
On the passenger side I used the stud that mounts the subwoofer box. If you do not have the sub there may be a nutsert there already. but if not just repeat the process again.

Now I am ready to strap in my stroller. But since that does not sound manly, and since it is a Rubicon, when on the trail it is used to strap in camping gear and coolers to keep them from shifting around. Or on large steep hills from finding its way into the rear Passenger compartment, or being ejected from the Jeep out the back when driving without a top.

silly engineers. they give us this great 4 door Jeep with no top and expect the crap in the back to stay put by not providing anchor points.

[papabear]

Very nice, thanks.:yup:

[RedRockJK]

Nice writeup, looks like I'll be making my way to Home Depot or Tractor Supply to look for a nutsert.

[farbuckle]

Great idea. :yup: I had never seen the nutserts before... How much do they flare on the back side?

:D sometimes you feel like a nutsert....:D

[gpwpat]

I got the nutserts at ACE Hardware. I do not know what they are actually called. I have heard nutsert before.

But at ACE they were in a drawer labled "blind nut". I used a 1/4-20 size.

Nutsert may be a brand name. Blind nut may be a generic term.

I have never seen how much they mushroom. but they work prety well. and have a finished look to them when installed.

check this site. it has a video that demonstrates how these fasteners work.
http://www.enfasco.com/frame4.htm

a quick serch Nutsert is a brand name. another Brand name is Rivit-Nut. Looks like they all do the same thing.

[Trail Bud]

I've been looking a tie down idea.
Thanks.

[Trail Bud]

I found a couple of websites which has some great tie down hardware.
It's called Expedition Exchange, here's the link: expeditionexchange.com/tiedowns/
The other KMT Trailer Parts, here's the link: kmtparts.com/catalog.asp?prodid=478052&showprevnext=1

[JKFirefighter]

Nice post, I'll do this for sure.

[Trail Bud]

Nice writeup, looks like I'll be making my way to Home Depot or Tractor Supply to look for a nutsert.

I went to Home Depot, Lowe's, True Value, & Osh. I couldn't find anything close. :mad: They never heard of Nutsert or Blind Nut.
I'm going to order from the web.

[RedRockJK]

This place will have what you want, guaranteed. Part number 90186A213 is a Screwdriver-Installed Rivet Nut Zinc-Plated Steel, 1/4"-20, uses a Screwdriver for installation and is good for metal thicknesses of 1/64"-3/16"

http://www.mcmaster.com/

[Rubimon]

I thought the 4 doors had tie down points under the carpet??? Great idea though, I think I will do it also. Anybody find the best place to buy the D-rings?

This mod could give my drill the mirrors a run for the money!:D

[gpwpat]

well you could always buy the D rings at a toyota dealer, or the land rover dealer. Or a wrecking yard from one of the above. I will do some searching around online to see if I can come up with part numbers. seems like a good 4x shop should have d rings too. you can always order online.

stay away from the screwdriver rivit nuts. they are lighter duty than the standard. the standard style can be installed with a bolt, a washer, and a ratchet.

McMastercarr has D rings in their catalog too. These seem like they should be a standard piece of hardware. has anybody tried a trailer supply. they usually have binns of hardware for the guys making and modifying their flatbed trailers.

just a quick google search for D rings or te down rings results in many styles. many of the websites are trailer suppliers. so try you local trailer store. Personally I like the versions posted at the landrover site.

[ponpeta]

well you could always buy the D rings at a toyota dealer, or the land rover dealer. Or a wrecking yard from one of the above. I will do some searching around online to see if I can come up with part numbers. seems like a good 4x shop should have d rings too. you can always order online.

stay away from the screwdriver rivit nuts. they are lighter duty than the standard. the standard style can be installed with a bolt, a washer, and a ratchet.

McMastercarr has D rings in their catalog too. These seem like they should be a standard piece of hardware. has anybody tried a trailer supply. they usually have binns of hardware for the guys making and modifying their flatbed trailers.

just a quick google search for D rings or te down rings results in many styles. many of the websites are trailer suppliers. so try you local trailer store. Personally I like the versions posted at the landrover site.
I've done my fair share of fixing, repairing, and building cars trucks and jeeps but you learn something new everyday. I'm still sitting here in amazement that I have never seen that done before. I will defiantly check the Nutsert out, and a nice clean Mod. If DC would pay attention to all of this simple Mods and incorporate them into the future Jeeps life could only get better.

[jk-rubicon]

I took mine of my Hummer -

They work great.
http://pictures.driveyourhummer.com/albums/Storage/Rubicon-1-week-after-pur-24.jpg

[superboo]

apparently there's supposed to be tiedown loops under the carpet and the factory just forget/neglected to install them. i included a link to the relevant thread below. i'm gonna head to my dealership tomorrow and inquire about this. the tiedown loops are listed as standard features on the jeep website and Rubidozer said he got his dealer to order them for him.

http://jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=4539

[captsam54]

This cargo tie downs issue is going to come back and bite DC in the ass...

ANYWAY,,,, Has anyone figured out what the holes in the lower back of the roll bar are for??

I was thinking that would make good attachment points for cargo..
(MAYBE GET EYE BOLTS FOR TRUCK STAKES WITH THE SPREADERS, LIKE SHEET ROCK BOLTS) Yea, I know there's a word for them.. just can't think of it now..
I will follow up on that and look for something suitable..

I am sure if we get to really looking there will be more somewhere.(attachment points). I like the idea of the Aspen tie downs.. Maybe someone can come up with a part# and we can order some.. That seems to be the only way to get something done as of now..

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS ACTUALLY SEEN THE CARGO TIE DOWNS..

Still trying to get the dealership to pony up the hood insulator, and the hood bumpers.. nothing yet..:crazyeyes:

[captsam54]

Here's more stuff about D rings.. I did an install too..

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=8270

[Rubimon]

I ordered the 1" stainless D-rings from captainsams sight and they came in like a couple of days. I chose the cheapest shipping and it was a little over a dollar.

Great find captain!

[captsam54]

I ordered the 1" stainless D-rings from captainsams sight and they came in like a couple of days. I chose the cheapest shipping and it was a little over a dollar.

Great find captain!
No Problem.. I assume you followed the install post..

I am all over the place with it.. So many cargo tie down posts.. Needs to be in write ups..

WOL, is probably gonna ex-communicate me one day for messing up his Forum with stuff in all the wrong places..!!!

[Ridebreck]

I realize that this is a fairly old thread, but it's nonetheless a valuable mod, IMO. I noticed earlier today that there are two rubber plugs just inside the rear door at what are in my mind logical mounting locations for tie-down anchors. I was curious if these are perhaps for mounting the subwoofer (right side for US version / left for UK version?), since the one on the right side seems to be in the same location as the subwoofer mounting bracket that is shown in the last photo of the OP's post. Are these new for the 08's, or have these been on all of the JK's and folks have just been electing to drill holes for the tie-downs elsewhere?

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[ronjenx]

I looked at 3 '08 Rubicon Unlimiteds at the dealer in Bangor, Maine. One had 4 tie downs in the cargo area, and 2 had none. No mention of tie downs in any of the paperwork on each vehicle. The dealer is looking into ordering a set. No price info, yet.

[Rubimon]

:worthless:

[.45Hardboil]

[QUOTE=gpwpat;36940]while loading up the back of my new JK unlimited, I noticed I had no place to anchor down my cargo net. I use this to keep things in the back. In the city it keeps strollers where they belong in case of an accident. In the trail it keeps things from shifting and in their place.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/1095/medium/DSC04284.JPG


Hey, I have that Jeep stroller too!:yup:

[ronjenx]

The Mopar part number for the Jeep tie downs is 55361485AA. The dealer got 4 of them for me @ $2.50 each. There are holes with rubber plugs at each corner of the cargo bay in my JK Unlimited Rubicon. The aft right one is occupied by the sub-woofer aft mount bolt. The tie down goes under that nut.
I am working on getting the part number for the riv-nuts for the other 3 tie downs.
The dealer parts guy said Chrysler dropped the tie downs in the Wrangler for liability reasons. Chrysler resisted letting the parts guy order them, but ended up allowing it. If he cannot get the proper riv-nuts and bolts, I will use commercially available parts.
http://www.jk-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6745&d=1204670784

[ronjenx]

See the attached pictures for details of tie down installation. These are all the parts which should have been installed in the Wrangler at the factory. The parts guy said Chrysler Engineers told him they were left out for liability reasons. He could not explain why all the other Jeep models have tie downs.
I pulled the rivnuts with an all-thread bolt, washer under the head, and a long piece of thin steel under the washer to help keep the rivnut from spinning. The rivnut is hexagonal, in a hexagonal hole, but I wanted to make sure it would not spin during installation.

http://www.jk-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6870&d=1204937528
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[ronjenx]

Attached is the finished product. I could upload only 5 pictures in the previous post.
http://www.jk-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6875&d=1204938534

[Rubimon]

Attached is the finished product. I could upload only 5 pictures in the previous post.

I thought some were supposed to go under the carpet flaps where the trunk hinges.:thinking:

[ronjenx]

I thought some were supposed to go under the carpet flaps where the trunk hinges.:thinking:

I don't know about that, but the locations of the prepunched holes match the factory installed tie downs on an '08 Unlimited Rubicon on the lot.
The original poster's solution is a little cheaper than mine. I have about $21 in factory parts.

[Ridebreck]

ronjenx, much thanks for chasing down those part numbers. I'm going to call the Part Dept. and my dealer and see how fast they can get these in. My trip to Moab is just a few weeks away and these would come in really handy to keep things in place.

Cheers!

[ronjenx]

ronjenx, much thanks for chasing down those part numbers. I'm going to call the Part Dept. and my dealer and see how fast they can get these in. My trip to Moab is just a few weeks away and these would come in really handy to keep things in place.

Cheers!
If the dealer has trouble finding the rivnuts, tell him to try it leaving off the "0" on the front. Some dealers leave it off when they enter their inventories into Partsvoice.
Also, TSLtrek says his dealer indicated the rivnut part number has changed to 6509106AA. I don't know if these are the same rivnuts.

[trick50]

This is really strange...after reading all the posts in this thread...some dealers are saying they are leaving them off from the factory for liability reasons, some are saying that a rubicon on the lot had them....and some of the threads are recent and some are older....

FYI: I have a 2008 Sahara Unlimited bought it 3 weeks ago and it has them from the factory. Mine was built like 5/4/08 delivered to my dealer like 5/20/08 so it is a recent production.

It may be different based on which state you order from ...I know on the dealer ordering system there are different check boxes depending on which states...that they will be sold in. Initially I assumed it was for emissions standards, but noticed that it was like NY, MA, MI, NC, CT, NV so it isn't even regional since the NV was there.

Interesting.

[Rubimon]

This is really strange...after reading all the posts in this thread...some dealers are saying they are leaving them off from the factory for liability reasons, some are saying that a rubicon on the lot had them....and some of the threads are recent and some are older....

FYI: I have a 2008 Sahara Unlimited bought it 3 weeks ago and it has them from the factory. Mine was built like 5/4/08 delivered to my dealer like 5/20/08 so it is a recent production.

It may be different based on which state you order from ...I know on the dealer ordering system there are different check boxes depending on which states...that they will be sold in. Initially I assumed it was for emissions standards, but noticed that it was like NY, MA, MI, NC, CT, NV so it isn't even regional since the NV was there.

Interesting.

:photo::photo::worthless:

[jtphoto JK]

THanks for the info.. Will definiitely try and order these from my dealer...

[ronjenx]

:photo::photo::worthless:
What makes you think there are no photos?
See posts 26 and 27 for the photos and part numbers.:yup:
Page 1, also. Lots of photos.

[jtphoto JK]

Ordered the parts, took a week to get. $58.00cdn for factory parts. Would have been cheaper to get aftermarket.. Thanks for the part numbers BTW...

[tibbar]

nice post,:thumbsup:

[artiedib]

What's the purpose of the step drill bit as opposed to a standard drill bit?

[ronjenx]

What's the purpose of the step drill bit as opposed to a standard drill bit?
For sheet metal drilling, it gives you several diameter holes in one bit, depending on when you stop drilling.

[doc307]

I bought a stock sub on ebay and have been looking for a way to fasten it down. This is just what I needed to find.

[charlope]

My JK 4door Sahara came with these already. I didn't realize all the JKs didn't have these.

[xerofall]

Mine did as well... I have an 08 X Unlimited.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/Jeep/DSCF0095.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/Jeep/DSCF0092.jpg

[ronjenx]

Could one of you guys look at the bolt head and see if there is a part # stamped on it and post it here if there is one?

[ronjenx]

:wink: My '08 bolts are --special shoulder bolts, with the No. "86" and take a T30 torx socket

:clap::rollingeyes: JIMBO
If I had been able to find some, I would not have had to add a little spacer under the washer on the bolts I used. See post #26 on page three.

[WeGo4x4]

Attached is the finished product. I could upload only 5 pictures in the previous post.
http://www.jk-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6875&d=1204938534

I picked these up today....$45....don't think it was worth the price. The rings were only $3 each, but the bolts and screws were about $5 each.

[ronjenx]

I picked these up today....$45....don't think it was worth the price. The rings were only $3 each, but the bolts and screws were about $5 each.
When I bought the parts last year, they came to about $21.

[scottrock]

My JK 4door Sahara came with these already. I didn't realize all the JKs didn't have these.

My 08 2dr X came with them as well. Musta been a 07 thing?? :dontknow2:

[ronjenx]

My 08 2dr X came with them as well. Musta been a 07 thing?? :dontknow2:
In '08 it was a random thing. Anyone have these in their '09?

[WeGo4x4]

My 08 didn't have them. Those nuts are a pain in the @$$ to tighten and they spin...I haven't installed the other two...any suggestions?

[ronjenx]

My 08 didn't have them. Those nuts are a pain in the @$$ to tighten and they spin...I haven't installed the other two...any suggestions?
My riv-nuts were hex shaped, in a hex shaped hole. To make sure they didn't spin, I used an all thread bolt, a washer under the head, and a long piece of flexible steel under the washer, in contact with the top of the riv-nut. The steel provides a lever to hold onto to keep things from spinning. A little lube on the bolt threads will also lessen the likelyhood of the riv-nut spinning. Turn the bolt until you feel a sudden increase in turning effort. That's when the riv-nut will be fully crimped.

[WeGo4x4]

Mine are hex shaped also but the one I did start to spin after a while. . .I'll try that with the other two thanks.

[wesley8808]

What size are the riv nuts? Or the size of the holes?

[sme]

nooooo, bring the pics back.

[ronjenx]

nooooo, bring the pics back.
Mine are still there on page 3. :thumbsup:

[Steve's 95YJ]

In '08 it was a random thing. Anyone have these in their '09?

I just found this thread today and wanted to let you know that my '09 2 door Rubi came with two D-ring rear anchor points already installed.

I use the two black rings on the bottom of the seat as the 3rd and 4th anchor pints and just criss-cross two bungee cords between them.

[sme]

Thanks, that is very helpful. I will be get this done. I am tired of things bouncing around back there.

[Dante]

I checked my 07 Unlimited and it does not have any holes in those locations at all. Luckily I have three nutserts left over from my Teraflex slider install. I just need the tie down rings.

[dougrobling]

My 09 Rubicon Unlimited came with all four installed.

[db99wj]

My 09 X Unlimited has all four.

[JK Wes]

i just fabed up some hooks and bolted them where the rear seat seatbelts are attached to the floorboard:clap:

[ronjenx]

i just fabed up some hooks and bolted them where the rear seat seatbelts are attached to the floorboard:clap:
Probably a lot stronger than the factory cargo tie-downs and anchor points.

[JK Wes]

can't say for sure cuz my doesnt have any "factory tie down points"...:sad2:....but i'm pretty sure that since it's made to hold u in during a wreck it'll hold w/e i need down pretty well

[basketmaker]

My '08 Sahara Unlimited factory installed.