PRESS RELEASE - Off Road Evolution C2 Front Axle Reinforcement Gussets

[wayoflife]

As some of you may know, the C on the passenger side front axle of my JK has bent over time thanks to running bigger tires and playing hard on the rocks. In fact, this bend is significant enough that you could see a visible amount of camber to the wheel. of course, i know there are plenty of you out there who have the same problem and more still who'd like to prevent this from happening in the first place and thanks to Off Road Evolution, you now can with these...

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=75423 (http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/off-road-evolution-jeep-jk-wrangler-c2-front-axle-reinforcement-gussets)

Available for only $89, the all new Off Road Evolution C2 Front Axle Reinforcement Gussets are made out of 3/16" laser cut, CNC bent steel and designed to seriously beef up your Jeep JK Wrangler’s front axle C’s. These gussets do require welding but any certified welder should be able to install these in about 2 hours or less and for a cost of about $200. If you already have a bent C, you might be able to correct them with a new offset ball joint and then adding these gussets will prevent any future bending.

If you would like to buy a set for your JK, they are available at:

Off Road Evolution (http://www.offroadevolution.com/store/proddetail.php?prod=EVO-AXLEGUSSETS)
Northridge4x4 (http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddetail.php?prod=ORE-C2-GUSSETS)

Or, if you would like to see a write-up on it, click on the link below:

Off Road Evolution C2 Front Axle Reinforcement Gussets Write-Up (http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/off-road-evolution-jeep-jk-wrangler-c2-front-axle-reinforcement-gussets)

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[Conradfreedumb]

always impressed by ORE!


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[HappyCurmudgeon]

Very Cool. :thumbs:

[mikeyfl]

this is the first ive heard of this C bending issue. ill be keeping an eye on mine from here on out and ill know where to go if something happens! :thumbsup:

[RedneckJeep]

Those are awesome. Thanks, Eddie.

[Piginajeep]

I think that you would want to install these before they bend as a precausion. The caming ball joint is a fix to a already bent axle. Install now so that you dont have to worry about a bent axle in the future. This is my take...

exactly...


I sent ORE a pm and these last week after coming across these on their site, After seeing the pictures, I'll be ordering a set.:clap:

[Ctimrun]

I bought some too! :thumbsup:

[RCJeeper]

Looks like an awesome fix for a problem I didn't know existed until I went to sell my D30. The people that are interested are guys who have bent their axles. Yikes.

1. Are there any rubber seals in the vacinity of the welds? would they have to be replaced after the weld?

2. It looks to be tig welded. Does anyone know for sure if it was tig welded or mig welded?

[wayoflife]

Looks like an awesome fix for a problem I didn't know existed until I went to sell my D30. The people that are interested are guys who have bent their axles. Yikes.

1. Are there any rubber seals in the vacinity of the welds? would they have to be replaced after the weld?

2. It looks to be tig welded. Does anyone know for sure if it was tig welded or mig welded?

1. no, but you will need to be careful not to weld everything all at once as too much heat can pull the C's and can compromise the grease in your ball joints. read the write-up for more details.

2. this was mig welded. :yup:

[Offroadme]

now thats what i call bad ass. what a sweet idea... if i did some crazy hard core off roading i would get those.... not that i think of it i should get them anyway....those would come in handy if i run over someones hood going into a parking space just as they would if i was crawling up a rock :bleh:

[SASQUATCH]

1. no, but you will need to be careful not to weld everything all at once as too much heat can pull the C's and can compromise the grease in your ball joints. read the write-up for more details.

2. this was mig welded. :yup:


Thanks for posting this up, just ordered mine about 2 minutes ago :thumbsup:

[RCJeeper]

2. this was mig welded. :yup:

Wow, that's some pretty sweet mig welding. I have both machines at home and have never laid a mig bead like that. :what?: Not to mention some of these were done in the verticle and overhead position! Compliments to the artisen who laid those bad beads!:clap:

[Rubimon]

I was just there getting my gears serviced and wanted a set welded on. They weren't ready yet!:naw: Just missed it.

[riverzendz]

2. this was mig welded. :yup:

That's some bad ass mig welding! :thumbsup:

Thanks WOL. Gonna order these.

[BradOB]

I was just there getting my gears serviced and wanted a set welded on. They weren't ready yet!:naw: Just missed it.


gears serviced? fluid change?

[Evolution]

That's some bad ass mig welding! :thumbsup:

Thanks WOL. Gonna order these.

Thanks alot for the compliment on the welds. We have a great staff working for us and they really take pride in thier work.:clap: Eddie did a great job on the installation write up. We really appreciate all the orders we have recvd today. See everyone in the So Cal area on Saturday at the Meet and Greet.

[mikeyfl]

I think that you would want to install these before they bend as a precausion. The caming ball joint is a fix to a already bent axle. Install now so that you dont have to worry about a bent axle in the future. This is my take...

how likely are they to bend if not wheeled hard or wheeled hard in mud? central florida isnt the rockiest place to wheel, we just get dirty.

[Rubimon]

gears serviced? fluid change?

Basically yes, sort of the 500 mile break in check up!

[SASQUATCH]

Thanks alot for the compliment on the welds. We have a great staff working for us and they really take pride in thier work.:clap: Eddie did a great job on the installation write up. We really appreciate all the orders we have recvd today. See everyone in the So Cal area on Saturday at the Meet and Greet.

Hey could you guys get some pics of the lower control arm covers posted here and on your site as well? I would have ordered these as well yestereday but wanted to see what they looked like first.

[riverzendz]

Thanks alot for the compliment on the welds. We have a great staff working for us and they really take pride in thier work.:clap: Eddie did a great job on the installation write up. We really appreciate all the orders we have recvd today. See everyone in the So Cal area on Saturday at the Meet and Greet.

Absolutely and wish all shops took as much pride in their work! Wish you guys were closer!

[RCJeeper]

how likely are they to bend if not wheeled hard or wheeled hard in mud? central florida isnt the rockiest place to wheel, we just get dirty.

The two guys that I mentioned in an earlier post looking to buy my Dana 30 both were jumping their Jeeps at Pismo Beach. Now I know THAT sounds like a good time but I doubt the average Jeeper is landing 5000 lbs from 4 foot in the air on a routine basis. I think the stock axles (esp the D44) are more than tough enough for the average Jeep owner and even for guys that are running hard trails but that's way way different than jumping. That being said, these brackets are fairly inexpensive. For that reason I will be buying a set.

[wayoflife]

Hey could you guys get some pics of the lower control arm covers posted here and on your site as well? I would have ordered these as well yestereday but wanted to see what they looked like first.

you mean these...

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=75493

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=75490

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=75502 (http://www.project-jk.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_itemId=75459&g2_page=2)

i have a write-up for them as well here:

Off Road Evolution Front Lower Control Arm Skids (http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/off-road-evolution-jeep-jk-wrangler-evo-front-lower-control-arm-skids)

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[HappyCurmudgeon]

Now THOSE are some nice welds. :thumbs:

[SASQUATCH]

you mean these...


i have a write-up for them as well here:

Off Road Evolution Front Lower Control Arm Skids (http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/off-road-evolution-jeep-jk-wrangler-evo-front-lower-control-arm-skids)

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yeahhhh those...well crap :what?:...thanks for the pics...I should have gone ahead and ordered them and paid for shipping once, they are how I imagined just needed a pic. Guess I'll call them in 2 hours when they are awake see if they shipped the other stuff already.

[SRJK]

I would like to thank Mel @ Off Road Evolution for sending me the front axle gussets, they look great and I can't wait to put them on my JK. I've talked to Mel several times on the phone and he has always been very helpful and had a few good story's to tell.
Thanks again Mel
Steve

[RAZORBACK]

Can these be stick welded? The mig I have access to is kind of crappy.

[Evolution]

Yes you could stick weld them

[SASQUATCH]

Can these be stick welded? The mig I have access to is kind of crappy.

7018 would make a nice clean weld :thumbsup:

[Evolution]

Just wanted to first of all, thank everyone for the orders, we really appreciate it and hope that they work well for you.
Also would like to let everyone know that all current orders have shipped.

Thanks Again

[SASQUATCH]

Just wanted to first of all, thank everyone for the orders, we really appreciate it and hope that they work well for you.
Also would like to let everyone know that all current orders have shipped.

Thanks Again

We appreciate the efforts as well obviously. Now can you go off and build some diff/tube trusses? :D. I bet you guys would sell quite a few as a kit.

On a side note on these C2s I was talking to my friend who owns a local fab shop about these brackets, he couldn't figure out the need or why they would even bend unless your dune jumping, or slamming down hard enough rock-crawlin with huge tires, for the price I find it great insurance along with diff trusses which he's going to build on the front/rears of my D44s.

[RAZORBACK]

7018 would make a nice clean weld :thumbsup:


thats what I was thinking. I'll post picks of my welds when I get it done.

[WRAITHYJEEP]

Evolution
I sent an email to see if you ship the C2 and the lower control arm armor brackets to canada via USPS as UPS was nearly the same as the price of the C2s and then my brown guy fees at the border that really add double the cost to the order
please say that you do please
you have a great product
and i would love to show case it on my jeep

[Evolution]

We ship UPS sorry I know international shipping can be little More .
we can ship them out as soon as you are ready.

[Evolution]

We appreciate the efforts as well obviously. Now can you go off and build some diff/tube trusses? :D. I bet you guys would sell quite a few as a kit.

On a side note on these C2s I was talking to my friend who owns a local fab shop about these brackets, he couldn't figure out the need or why they would even bend unless your dune jumping, or slamming down hard enough rock-crawlin with huge tires, for the price I find it great insurance along with diff trusses which he's going to build on the front/rears of my D44s.


We have seen alot of them bend and with rigs running as small as 34s
This could be a combination of many things Like .
Rim offset/backspacing (moreThan stock)
Wheel spacers
Bigger tires (Than stock)
These all put more load on the axle Cs
Now add your loaded jeep 4 people and gear
moderate wheeling
or hitting a bump to fast
or the curb at at the gas station
And that is More than likely how it happens




On the Jks I have Not seen any axle housing Bend yet ,front or rear and I even was running 40s on the rear 44 for a while .
Thay are a lot stonger than the TJ axle .

[WRAITHYJEEP]

Directly from evolutions web site
Check totals and proceed to process payment.
Total Goods: $124.98 Gussets 89.99 and Lower control arm skids 34.99
Shipping: $86.50
Grand Total: $211.48
and 60$ in UPS brokerage fees based on the 124.98 value (sometimes UPS really screw us over and bases it on the grand total including the shipping)
...for a total of $277.

Doesn't seem like that much of a deal once being Canadian and getting screwed over by UPS
US vendors would do a lot more business if they would drop UPS and start shipping USPS to canada.

Guess I will have to make my own.

Well I think you have a good product evolution

good luck with US sales.

[pearl-drum-man]

Looks like a cool mod!

[Evolution]

Directly from evolutions web site
Check totals and proceed to process payment.
Total Goods: $124.98 Gussets 89.99 and Lower control arm skids 34.99
Shipping: $86.50
Grand Total: $211.48
and 60$ in UPS brokerage fees based on the 124.98 value (sometimes UPS really screw us over and bases it on the grand total including the shipping)
...for a total of $277.

Doesn't seem like that much of a deal once being Canadian and getting screwed over by UPS
US vendors would do a lot more business if they would drop UPS and start shipping USPS to canada.

Guess I will have to make my own.

Well I think you have a good product evolution

good luck with US sales.

Wraithyjeep: I am not sure what all the fees go to. We have not shipped to anyone outside the US from our website. I have PMd you. Hopefully we can work something out. I apologize for any inconvenience. Thanks, Lisa

[Big D2]

Yup, the brown paper bag man tends to rape many up here in Canada!

[WRAITHYJEEP]

Wraithyjeep: I am not sure what all the fees go to. We have not shipped to anyone outside the US from our website. I have PMd you. Hopefully we can work something out. I apologize for any inconvenience. Thanks, Lisa
Hi and thanx Lisa I sent you an email back
well the brokerage fee that UPS charges is to clear the item across the border and to be the middle man to collect the respective taxes for the government and in doing so they charge a fee (brokerage) for doing that
I'm not against paying my taxes but
the postal service (owned by government) collects the taxes and do not charge a fee

UPS to Canada
I buy item say 100$ pay shipping to me say 40$ UPS item hits border, Canada customs and border service agency says tax is due 12$ UPS fronts that money to clear the item,,,,then UPS charges 36$ for that service of fronting then they chagre tax on that service then the package clears and is enroute
so UPS guy shows up demands COD money for brokerage or i don't get the package. which now totals 55 or so dollars. $195

Postal service
I buy item 100$ pay shipping say 35 (slightly less and more slower) item gets to border clears border after Canada customs verifies what the tax is 12$ item clears and is on route... i get a notice in the mail box that i have a parcel and must go to the post office to collect it it also states amount due. which is the federal tax on the value of the parcel. no other fees $147

UPS is making a huge killing with cross border fees for brokerage currently there is a very large class action lawsuit against them here in Canada.

On ebay most sellers know about this brown guy unfairness and have switched to USPS for items to Canada
Some vendors put a lesser value cause items below 50$ don't pay any tax on them. I don't support this but it is a nice surprise some times they use wholesale value opposed to retail value.

generally i keep my ebaying to less that 50$
but i don't mind paying tax to my country it is the fee to the brown guys that erks me cause it is all done automatically with scanners and cameras not like someone touches it.

Oh we also enjoy having out items wrapped in news print from the vendors area flyers are interesting to compare prices.

cheers
And again thank you Mel and Lisa
Scott

[rabidranger]

Aren't the C's cast iron? Is so is there any issue with welding to them? Any cracking or pre-heating of the C's necessary? Cast isn't the easiest to weld to. I had a bear of a time welding to a 14B for another project... Pre-heated the pig, threw a blanket over it to slow the cooling. Looks like with wet rags you are accelerating the cooling of the c's to prevent damage to the grease and seals.

[Evolution]

Aren't the C's cast iron? Is so is there any issue with welding to them? Any cracking or pre-heating of the C's necessary? Cast isn't the easiest to weld to. I had a bear of a time welding to a 14B for another project... Pre-heated the pig, threw a blanket over it to slow the cooling. Looks like with wet rags you are accelerating the cooling of the c's to prevent damage to the grease and seals.

The C's on the axle are forged.

[TeraFlex]

Thanks Lisa and Mel for bringing my C2's and control arm skids!! I will be calling you later!!


Try shipping via USPS and MARK IT AS A GIFT!! Helps out alot on the Canada tax/import duties.

[jonsjeep]

how can you look and tell if you have a bent C without the benefit of an alignment machine?

[greggradwohl]

The C's on the axle are forged.
Do you happen to know what steel these are made of (I absolutely believe you that it works, just curious)?

[SASQUATCH]

Well I get these welded on tomorrow after work, then we'll start cutting out the diff/tube trusses.

Evo - Have you guys put your LCA bracket shields on your website yet?

[Evolution]

Yes we have the Lower control arm brackes on the website Ready to ship.

[SASQUATCH]

Yes we have the Lower control arm brackes on the website Ready to ship.

awesome, thanks! :thumbsup:

[David @ Currie Ent.]

Do you happen to know what steel these are made of (I absolutely believe you that it works, just curious)?

The inner c's are made out of 1045 forged steel.

[Evolution]

The inner c's are made out of 1045 forged steel.
Thanks David ! I havent been at the computer.

[VictorS]

Excellent mod...I ordered my gussets.

Would be cool if we could also get a truss to strengthen the housing:

This is one for a D44 from TNT customs (Trek):
http://www.tntcustoms.com/webV5/D44truss.jpg

[2K1TJ]

Well I get these welded on tomorrow after work, then we'll start cutting out the diff/tube trusses.


:popcorn:
Thinking about a truss myself.



Excellent mod...I ordered my gussets.

Would be cool if we could also get a truss to strengthen the housing:

This is one for a D44 from TNT customs (Trek):
http://www.tntcustoms.com/webV5/D44truss.jpg

Is that a JK D44?

[SASQUATCH]

:popcorn:
Thinking about a truss myself.





Is that a JK D44?

no kidding, like it, looks freaking strong.

[VictorS]

:popcorn:

Is that a JK D44?

No, its a FSJ Wagoneer D44. But I'm sure the concept could work on the JK.