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red08rubicon_tx
07-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Ok I have been doing alot of reading up on different types of assault rifles and have decided to buy an ar before the end of the year, so sometime in the next 6 months. I want to buy it in that time in case we have another ban with a new president. Anyways which brand should I buy few of the cops I talk to around here are saying DPMS or RRA but that is just a few narrowed opinions because one of them has his FFL and those are the brands he deals in mostly. I wan a bigger picture of what more people think also between those two the major difference I see is RRA is a lifetime warranty and DPMS is 3 years I believe it was 3 anyways just a few years compared to lifetime. So what are yall's opinions???

Sgt P
07-04-2008, 07:39 PM
My AR is a Colt, but I've been looking at DPMS for a new upper.

The platform is so versital, you just need to start with a quality lower. Both the Rock River and the DPMS are great!

Grab a Ciener kit, and blast away with 22's. It's the most fun you can have with your clothes on!!!!!:ya:

Shoup
07-04-2008, 08:43 PM
I love the Rock River, hands down the best, granted I am waiting for the MASADA for my next purchase.

http://www.magpul.com/images/gallery/masada/big/masada1.jpg

Geeper4x4
07-04-2008, 09:10 PM
I have a DPMS and have been very pleased. Quality product with fair price.

ShadedOutDoors
07-04-2008, 09:11 PM
check out http://www.POF-USA.com They make a quality AR piston driven alot cleanier and all the guts are heat treated and coated Its gonna be my next gun.

Robar
07-04-2008, 09:45 PM
I prefer RRA or Aramalite. RRA is a smaller company, but makes a very quality product.

yetibear
07-04-2008, 11:11 PM
Everyone and their sister has an AR clone, be different and get yourself a Styer Aug, or the American made copy.
http://www.msarinc.com/stg556_sporting.html
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa169/yetibear/aug7.jpg
Of course if your a lefty, you gotta put out the extra $200 for the left eject bolt, unless you like the smell of hot brass and burning nose hair!:eek2:
Great reliable little rifle, and if you can find a good used Austrian AUG, you will be the only kid on the block that's got one.

yetibear
07-04-2008, 11:19 PM
I prefer RRA or Aramalite. RRA is a smaller company, but makes a very quality product.

If your heart is really set on an AR, look at Armalite, the AR180 is a quality weapon at a really great price, I think it's around $850 msrp. Course if you look at Armalite, don't pass up the AR10's, that is a real AR battle rifle.

Robar
07-04-2008, 11:23 PM
If your heart is really set on an AR, look at Armalite, the AR180 is a quality weapon at a really great price, I think it's around $850 msrp. Course if you look at Armalite, don't pass up the AR10's, that is a real AR battle rifle.

I agree. If I could afford an AR10T I would have one. :drooling: But I can't, so I dont. :sad2:

yetibear
07-04-2008, 11:31 PM
I get all dewy eyed over the AR10B, I can't help it, I like the wood furniture, it makes it look like a high brow, giant Matel toy.:thumbsup: But I just can't find it in myself to pony up the pesos. And it's $500 less than the 10T, so I just put wood on my G3:rotflmao2::rotflmao2:

sgmrock
07-05-2008, 07:41 AM
Ok I have been doing alot of reading up on different types of assault rifles and have decided to buy an ar before the end of the year, so sometime in the next 6 months. I want to buy it in that time in case we have another ban with a new president. Anyways which brand should I buy few of the cops I talk to around here are saying DPMS or RRA but that is just a few narrowed opinions because one of them has his FFL and those are the brands he deals in mostly. I wan a bigger picture of what more people think also between those two the major difference I see is RRA is a lifetime warranty and DPMS is 3 years I believe it was 3 anyways just a few years compared to lifetime. So what are yall's opinions???

Good for thinkin' ahead, though a ban on any "type of firearm" is unlikely because of the recent ruling by the supreme court, still a good idea.

I have Colt, DPMS, Armalite, Bushmaster and a Cavalry Arms ARs, they all work great and have had only a minor problem with the Armalite AR-10 upper. I had it for a few years and couldn't get it to run right, (stove pipe every few rounds) sent it back to Armalite and they sent me a entire new upper!

red08rubicon_tx
07-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Thanks for all the info guys. Sounds like RRA and DPMS are both high quality guns considering not one of you had anything bad to say about either one. I guess for the extra $50 the lifetime warranty on the RRA sounds like a deal to me. I will probably go with one of them in an M4 style with 16" barrel colapsable stock and a quad rail handguard.

Robar
07-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Also get the flat top upper. It makes the gun a little more versatile.

red08rubicon_tx
07-09-2008, 08:55 PM
OK add flattop to my list any other suggestions from anyone else?

paranoid
08-22-2008, 05:37 AM
The best advice I can give ya is just keep the rifle simple. Because when shit does hit the fan stupidity takes over. Nothing like seeing a guy fumble with all his add ones when he should be shooting.

silver rubicon
08-26-2008, 05:16 PM
it depends on what you want it for: is it for run-o-the-mill "home defense" or longer range competitive/varmint shooting, or both. if you just want a reliable short range defensive weapon, then any of the major mil-spec brands will work. i know a lot of people bad mouth bushmaster and dpms (quality control issues presumably) but i have seen a lot of bushmasters function fine in 40 hour classes (both semi and select fire classes) in 118 degree heat as well as in winter downpours. i cant speak for dpms-i've never seen one run hard in a class yet. if you want something that is accurate at longer distances, you may want to look into one of the higher end guns with polygonal rifling like noveske's guns. if not, you will at least want to get a 1:7 or 1:8 twist standard manufacturer's barrel (although some manufacturers are not making them any more). this will allow you to fire the heavier bullets needed for accuracy at longer ranges. so, decide what it is going to be used for, then go from there.....good luck.

bigbluejk
08-26-2008, 11:07 PM
why not build it and get exactly what you want. That is what I did.

silver rubicon
08-27-2008, 09:05 PM
that's true, but it seems that red08rubicon_tx is relatively unfamiliar with the ar platform, and if that's the case, he may not want to deal with researching "what's what" with regards to barrels (length, contour, rifling type, twist rates), gas system lengths, trigger types, etc, etc. especially if it's going to be a generic "home defense" type weapon, in which case any of the off-the-shelf guns will do the job. but i could be wrong! :hmm: we just need to know what he intends to use it for.......

red08rubicon_tx
08-31-2008, 01:29 AM
It will be mostly a home defense gun for just in case the sh!* really hits the fan but it will actually get used mostly just as a recreational gun. I will probably go out and shoot it once a month or every other month on avg just to play around. I just like the way the ar looks and figure if its good enough to protect my freedom it's good enough to protect my family. (may be wrong but I still have the 12 gauge and the 40 that I know work every time) Anyways I like the M4 style shorter gun. I want quad rail and I believe that you can get a flat top and get a m16 style carry handle/open sight that mounts to the flat top?? I like the way the handle looks and most likely won't want or need any optics but I would like to have the option to add later if I change my mind. And you are right I don't have the knowledge to build but I do know someone who does he is just biased toward certain things so I am on here trying to figure out exatly what options I want so that if I let him build it I can just give him a list and then let him find the best deals and piece it together for me.

Dedduc
08-31-2008, 05:01 AM
Colt....Lewis Machine & Tool......Rock River Arms

silver rubicon
08-31-2008, 02:29 PM
in that case, you will do just fine choosing any of the major manufacturers --no need to spend the extra cash on the higher end guns. i would just recommend a 16" barrel (more manuverable indoors than a 20" or 18"), a 1:9 twist rate (greater flexibility in ammo choice for what you want), "a-3"/flat top style (provides more optic options; and yes, your purchase of an a-3 will include the removable carry handle), flash suppressor (rather than compensator). as far as quad rails go, you should go with a two piece type rather than the one piece "free floating handguard" type (they are easier to install, are less expensive and, given your needs, you won't benefit from the accuracy increase anyways). in addition, if you are going to be using defensive type soft point ammo (e.g., federal's tactical load) you would be wise to choose a manufacturer that is using the "m-4 cut" on their feedramps (the standard angle on the feedramps tends to cause "bullet set-back" malfunctions with soft point bullets).