Project-JK Gets Off Road Evolution EVO-flex - Part 2: Rear EVO Lever

[wayoflifette]

As most of you know by now, WOL and I recently had our JK outfitted with the new Off Road Evolution EVO front coilover system (http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=52448) and we posted a brief overview of the steps required to have it installed here:

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=52448

Now, while we were getting our new EVO front coilover system (http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=52448) installed, we also had the rear EVO Lever system worked in as well and are now highlighting it in this new Part-2 post.

Although we had some of the brackets welded on, this kit will be availale as a complete bolt on system for those who want to do it themselves. Here is a brief overview of the steps required. :)

• Start by removing your current rear suspension components (shocks, coils, sway bar links, track bar, etc.)
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85689

• Remove the rear sway bar as it will need to be relocated.
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85695

Because the EVO Lever system is located where the factory muffler is, the exhaust will have to be relocated. To accomplish this we decided to install the Rancho Cat-Back Exhaust Kit but with a slight modification to it.

• Here is a picture of the Rancho Cat-Back Exhaust Kit. It is a complete bolt on kit.
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=87180

We will be doing a more detailed write-up on the Rancho exhaust system soon.

• Installing the new Rancho muffler
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86559

The Rancho exhaust kit comes with all the tubes necessary to route the exhaust to the factory location, but since we are going to be installing the EVO Lever, we modifyed the Rancho exhaust tubes in order to leave the rear space open.

• First we cut out a small section of the exhaust tube then welded it on and installed the exhaust tip.
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86601

Now that we have the exhaust relocated and out of the way, it's time to start installing the EVO Lever components.

• In order to install the new bump stop bracket, you will need to do a little grinding to smooth out the frame.
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85848

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85851

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85863

• Tap the bump stop bracket into place on the frame
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85878

• Mark and drill the new holes for the bracket
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85923

• Insert bolts and tighten
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86499

• Install the factory bump stop in the new bracket
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86871

• Bolt on the EVO Lever frame. There are multiple bolt points.
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86328

• Grease and assemble the EVO Lever arms
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86412

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86418

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86421

• Weld on the trackbar bracket and bump stop extension. This will also be available as a bolt on bracket.
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86643

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86679

• Install the EVO Lever arms and links on to the frame
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86658

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86685

• Install the coil overs on to the EVO Lever arms
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86757

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86778

• Install limit straps
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86847

• Install the factory sway bar on to the EVO frame and attach longer swaybar links
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86877

• Locate and weld on the shock reservoir brackets
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=86916

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=87048

• And finally, relocate the brake lines
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=87012


That's it! All Done! :clap:


Here are some pics of the EVO Lever on the trail :thumbsup:
http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85178

http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85130

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85136

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85214

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=87111

As you can see, the flex offered by the EVO Lever with just a good set of adjustable short control arms is outstanding enough to warrant the use of limiting straps. And, as was the case with the EVO front coilovers, our experience with this setup impressed us enough to question the need for a long arm kit.

As mentioned before, although we had the EVO system welded on, it will be available as a bolt on kit for those who would like to install it themselves. We will be doing a more complete instructional write-up on project-jk.com in the future.

[wrnglrguy]

That is freakin' AWESOME! I love checking out WOL's JK and watching it grow over the months. Very nice :thumbsup:

[ColinW]

Looks good...did you do an axle swap with ARB air lockers at the same time as well?

[wayoflife]

That is freakin' AWESOME! I love checking out WOL's JK and watching it grow over the months. Very nice :thumbsup:

thank you wrnglrguy. :cool:

Looks good...did you do an axle swap with ARB air lockers at the same time as well?

i blew out my factory rear locker for the 2nd time and was lucky enough to pick up Off Road Evolution's old Sahara 44 with ARB and Superior 35 spline chromo shafts.

[riverzendz]

WOW! That is absolutely impressive. Your JK is wicked, WOL.

Curious about that exhaust though. I understand why you ended the system where you did, but it seems like a bad idea to exhaust it under the JK. Why not route the pipe out to the side a bit, in front of the wheel well or something? I can't imagine that's good for breathing while driving, especially if you've got the drain plugs pulled.

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[Major Ho]

Just curious, with a mod like the Woods Evap Canister relocation would they be compatible with each other since the evap can sits above the rear axle area?

[Piginajeep]

:what?::drool:

Damn thats nice! hows the ride on the highway?

[defkon]

Wow, great write up and build. Thanks for the info.

[bahadden]

whats that red battery looking thing up under the evo lever system?
looks great, got used parts you need to get ride of:rotflmao1:

[miguelylucy]

wow I am speechless :eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::jawdrop:

[HappyCurmudgeon]

damn that looks sweet!

[Gokracer1]

Great Write up! That is crazy stuff...:thumbsup:

[SGT.]

Great stuff and even better to see it in person!!!!:thumbsup:

[robin]

wow awesome.:thumbsup:

[wayoflife]

WOW! That is absolutely impressive. Your JK is wicked, WOL.

Curious about that exhaust though. I understand why you ended the system where you did, but it seems like a bad idea to exhaust it under the JK. Why not route the pipe out to the side a bit, in front of the wheel well or something? I can't imagine that's good for breathing while driving, especially if you've got the drain plugs pulled.

honestly, i haven't noticed this being a problem and haven't had any issues with fumes - or, at least, none that i could tell. but, i'm sure you could have your exhaust routed just about anyway that you want so long as it stays out of the way of the EVO Lever. :yup:

Just curious, with a mod like the Woods Evap Canister relocation would they be compatible with each other since the evap can sits above the rear axle area?

yes, so far as I can tell, this shouldn't be a problem.

whats that red battery looking thing up under the evo lever system?
looks great, got used parts you need to get ride of:rotflmao1:

yup, that's a 2nd battery but you could easily fit an air tank up there as well :yup:

[HappyCurmudgeon]

[snip]

yup, that's a 2nd battery but you could easily fit an air tank up there as well :yup:


uber-secret Project-JK hybrid experiment. :synister:

[TeraFlex]

:eek2:NICE!!! Love the flex!!

[snippy]

I see you had the ramp out, what was your RTI score?

[bly109]

That Evo-lever is badass:crazyeyes: Im gonna have add that and front coil-overs to my wish list. :thumbsup:

[wayoflife]

I see you had the ramp out, what was your RTI score?

unfortuantely, we ramped it just as a final check before heading out to niagara rim. i will go back and document it and let you all know the results. :yup:

once again, this was accomplished with just a good set of adjustalbe short arms. while i am running teraflex arms now, i have run full traction as well and can tell you that both will do the job well. of course, if you can afford to install this with a good 4-link long arm kit, your flex will be stupid crazy :crazyeyes:

here are a few shots of off road evolution's jk which has the EVO coilovers up front, EVO lever in the rear, full traction long arm kit, 40" toyo's and on a 30° ramp....

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=84233

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=84305\

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=84317&

crazy thing is, their JK would have easily gone up higher on the ramp and was only stopped because of the wall it was attached to :eek2: :crazyeyes:

[MOWrangler]

That's just SICK! Way beyond my technical expertise, but cool none-the-less!

[QKSILVER]

Amazing the amount of flex your getting with short arms!

[SouthSideSteve]

im jealous and hate you with every fiber of my being.





i kid. i kid.


that ORE rig is just sick.

[Big D2]

The setup looks really good with amazing flexibility. I would have ever get rid of the sway. I know you have an opinion on this, but is that it's bending that much where it's warping....or is that trail damage. It's only a matter of time before it snaps.

I would just up the spring rate(coil overs??) a little to compensate for it.

[SouthSideSteve]

The setup looks really good with amazing flexibility. I would have ever get rid of the sway. I know you have an opinion on this, but is that it's bending that much where it's warping....or is that trail damage. It's only a matter of time before it snaps.

I would just up the spring rate(coil overs??) a little to compensate for it.

Anti-Rocks f/r in the future Eddie?

[wayoflife]

Amazing the amount of flex your getting with short arms!

honestly, the craziest part of it all is that the photos don't do it justice. in person, it really is even more amazing. :crazyeyes:

im jealous and hate you with every fiber of my being.





i kid. i kid.


that ORE rig is just sick.

i love you too :blush:

oh, and yes, the ORE rig really is just sick :drool:

The setup looks really good with amazing flexibility. I would have ever get rid of the sway. I know you have an opinion on this, but is that it's bending that much where it's warping....or is that trail damage. It's only a matter of time before it snaps.



the swaybar is not damaged and the warp is fine. the factory swaybar just has a really soft tortion rate and that's why it's warping like that. IMHO, better to have it on for stability than to not have it. but, having said that, off road evolution is coming out with their own sway bar system that has a tortion bar going through the frame and i will get it once it is available :yup:

[wayoflife]

Anti-Rocks f/r in the future Eddie?

something like it in the rear but one made by off road evolution and made specifically for the EVO Lever. up front, i have to say that i still like my rubi e-disco. :yup:

[Evolution]

Anti-Rocks f/r in the future Eddie?

We have our EVO rear sway bar system that includes 3/4 billet arms. This system is designed and intergraded into the Evo sub frame.
The stock sway bar is used to keep the cost down. It works well, it does flex at full stuff just like it would on any vehicle just a little eaisier to see.

[CLACKEY(_!_)]

WOL you're like Batman! You've got all the cool stuff!:D

[coachfb6821]

So, I dont think this has been asked or not, but can you go from stock to the full EVO suspension? Or would that require a ton more aftermarket items? (beyond drive shafts/ skids/ etc)

[wayoflife]

So, I dont think this has been asked or not, but can you go from stock to the full EVO suspension? Or would that require a ton more aftermarket items? (beyond drive shafts/ skids/ etc)

absolutely and this really is the biggest reason for me posting this. before, to get this much flex, you would have to get a long arm kit. now, you can get this much flex and a great ride to boot with little more than adjustable control arms and the EVO system installed. heck, if you have an unlimited, you can even keep the factory rear drive shaft and if you have a 6-speed, most likely the front as well. needless to say, if you already have a good short arm kit with adjustable control arms, this route should be a much more appealing option especially when you consider how much something like an RE long arm kit costs and how much more flex you would get over it :yup:

[PONCH]

Why dosent offroad evolution just offer a full kit like that with diffrent options?

[wayoflife]

Why dosent offroad evolution just offer a full kit like that with diffrent options?

their goal from the begining was to offer a high end performance system that could work with any long arm kit. doing it this way was just a crazy test that i decided to help them do just to see how it would work. while they had an idea that the performance you would get with this setup would be good, i don't think anyone realized just how good it would really be. needless to say, i have no doubts that some kind of package will be available in the near future and after talking to david at northridge4x4, i know he's working on putting some kind of package together now.

[coachfb6821]

WOL -

So I could get the bolt-on EVO kits and the Adjustable control arm kit from say Teraflex and be done? This seems too good to be true....someone pinch me....i must be dreaming....

Now where did i put that money tree damn it?

[wayoflife]

WOL -

So I could get the bolt-on EVO kits and the Adjustable control arm kit from say Teraflex and be done? This seems too good to be true....someone pinch me....i must be dreaming....

Now where did i put that money tree damn it?

you're not dreaming and yes, it really is true. that's pretty much what i did :yup: however, i should add that you will need a front track bar drop bracket, dropped pitman arm and longer break lines to accomodate your huge flex :D

[PONCH]

their goal from the begining was to offer a high end performance system that could work with any long arm kit. doing it this way was just a crazy test that i decided to help them do just to see how it would work. while they had an idea that the performance you would get with this setup would be good, i don't think anyone realized just how good it would really be. needless to say, i have no doubts that some kind of package will be available in the near future and after talking to david at northridge4x4, i know he's working on putting some kind of package together now.

I would hope so, you see what kind of response your getting here about the kit. Offering a complete kit is a no brainer!

[coachfb6821]

Ok, last question...and probably aimed more toward the ORE guys....

Will it fit a 2 Dr? :eek2:

[wayoflife]

Ok, last question...and probably aimed more toward the ORE guys....

Will it fit a 2 Dr? :eek2:

you will need to get a new rear u-joint style drive shaft (and front if you have an auto) but otherwise, it sure will :yup:

[coachfb6821]

Nice! :ya:

(I had already planned on driveshafts after the first lift thread on a two dr)

[QKSILVER]

heck, if you have an unlimited, you can even keep the factory rear drive shaft and if you have a 6-speed, most likely the front as well. needless to say, if you already have a good short arm kit with adjustable control arms, this route should be a much more appealing option especially when you consider how much something like an RE long arm kit costs and how much more flex you would get over it :yup:

This is great news. Now if EVO was only closer....sigh

[coachfb6821]

WOL -

What coilovers did you use? I'm trying to put together my Mod spreadsheet and i cant seem to find anyplace where i can find coilover shocks. Thanks.

[HappyCurmudgeon]

King :yup:

(kingshocks dotcom)

See Pic.

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=87048

[wayoflife]

what HC said, we went with a set of kings. they weren't cheap but they are the best. if you want to save some money, fox makes a pretty good set as well and for the fronts, you could pick up a set of rancho's.

[TemplarAZ]

Amazing, absolutely amazing that so much flex is available without going to the expense of a long arm kit.

[wayoflife]

Amazing, absolutely amazing that so much flex is available without going to the expense of a long arm kit.

well, just to be clear, the EVO system isn't necessarily cheap, but by comparison to the cost and the amount of flex it can give you over something like an RE long arm kit, I personally think it's the better way to go. and, if some day in the future you can afford to upgrade to a good 4-link long arm system as well, your flex will become stupid crazy just like you can see on the off road evolution jk :crazyeyes:

[SaharaBlackNo1]

well, just to be clear, the EVO system isn't necessarily cheap, but by comparison to the cost and the amount of flex it can give you over something like an RE long arm kit, I personally think it's the better way to go. and, if some day in the future you can afford to upgrade to a good 4-link long arm system as well, your flex will become stupid crazy just like you can see on the off road evolution jk :crazyeyes:

I heard that the Rubicon Express Long Arm Kit out flexes it.




lol j/k

Sorry couldn't resist bringing a bit of another thread in here. The EVO-flex is amazing. It's really nice when something not only looks bad ass, but clearly from the "field" testing you guys did, it performs even better than it looks.

[Ctimrun]

WOW! Awesome!

[08RedRecon]

Is there anything left on your wish list. Damn dude :dontknow2:

[wayoflife]

Is there anything left on your wish list. Damn dude :dontknow2:

are ya kidding me? :crazyeyes:

seriously, if i ever get the nerve to go bigger - say like 40's, a long arm kit would definitely be in the works... that, and maybe a set of dana 60's, and a ram assist and..... :crazyeyes:

up to 37's, i'm totally convinced that a set of good short arms are all that you need.

[CIJeep]

honestly, i haven't noticed this being a problem and haven't had any issues with fumes - or, at least, none that i could tell. but, i'm sure you could have your exhaust routed just about anyway that you want so long as it stays out of the way of the EVO Lever. :yup:


I see a problem with the turn down mainly with grass fires and the like. It was a problem with older jeeps or other vehicles that did that off road.

Fumes can be a problem, but usually on long drives with an enclosed top. I'd prefer seeing a spark arrestor with something like that.

[OhhSeven]

WOL -

What coilovers did you use? I'm trying to put together my Mod spreadsheet and i cant seem to find anyplace where i can find coilover shocks. Thanks.
Maybe you could post that spreadsheet when you get done so the rest of us newb's can dream too.

[oli~d]

what are all the extra welded tabs on the lever frame about:

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=85214

i like the idea of the rear battery... is there any room left (close) to the front of the bumper for a rear winch?

[chaddlane]

what are all the extra welded tabs on the lever frame about

the tabs are for a skid plate

[oli~d]

They are light tabs! :rofl:

but seriously this setup is just sick


cool... i'll throw a six pack of daylighters under there and melt the rocks out of my way:rotflmao2:

the tabs are for a skid plate

ah yeah.... didn't think about that.... went to EVO's site... sure enough.

[TAMPAJEEPER]

Good work guys:thumbsup:

[captjay]

i am already running RE 4.5" la with 37's, what would be the advantage of adding this system to my re lift? would it be worth it? it looks like i would pick up few more inches of travel, but is that all this would do for me?

[wayoflife]

i am already running RE 4.5" la with 37's, what would be the advantage of adding this system to my re lift? would it be worth it? it looks like i would pick up few more inches of travel, but is that all this would do for me?

it would give you an outstanding ride on pavement and will allow you to drive hard and fast on a fire road or desert wash with comfort. however, because you have a radius arm setup, you will not get any more travel. in fact, there is a rear swaybar that off road evolution offers made specifically for a setup like yours that is designed to limit the amount of travel you have and help prevent the failure of your bushings.

[Cesar]

....extreme!

[Evolution]

....extreme!



What does this mean?

[JackMac4]

What does this mean?

I took it as a compliment - as in extremely bad ass.

[Trail Bud]

I see a problem with the turn down mainly with grass fires and the like. It was a problem with older jeeps or other vehicles that did that off road.

Fumes can be a problem, but usually on long drives with an enclosed top. I'd prefer seeing a spark arrestor with something like that.


I have the same set up. I like it better now.
When I'm using the trail table or just sitting with the tail gate open in back I get no fumes now.
Also I have stopped crushing the tail pipe closed since it was moved. :D

[Trail Bud]

the tabs are for a skid plate


I have it installed. Here's what the skid plate looks like.


http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/16759/2260842870091405605S600x600Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2260842870091405605HHHnnq)

Couldn't rersist throwing this shot in too. It was the maiden voyage for the coilovers and the Evo lever set up. :D

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/43168/2434535400091405605S600x600Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2434535400091405605mebbpN)

[john531]

sw:thumbsup:eet

[slacktide]

So when are they going to ofer the whole kit? Short arm, long arm? Would be sweet to get what you need instead of trying to piece the system together.

This is exactly what i want. Looks awsome. I just need to find that money tree in my backyard, i think my wife stole it:eek2:

[RDY4RKS]

Hey wayoflife, have you had any issues with your rear sway bar?

[wayoflife]

Hey wayoflife, have you had any issues with your rear sway bar?

yes, i did have some. the sway bar would shift over and at an extreme flex, it sometimes swiped in and hit the factory track bar mount on the frame. to address this, i pulled the sway bar over to the passenger side as much as i could and then installed a set of collars on it right next to the bushings and this prevented it from shifting over again. however, i have since installed the new sway bar ORE makes.

[RDY4RKS]

yes, i did have some. the sway bar would shift over and at an extreme flex, it sometimes swiped in and hit the factory track bar mount on the frame. to address this, i pulled the sway bar over to the passenger side as much as i could and then installed a set of collars on it right next to the bushings and this prevented it from shifting over again. however, i have since installed the new sway bar ORE makes.

Thanks. I am going to go ahead and get the ORE sway bar then. From the pictures it looks like a very well made product.

[RAZORBACK]

Thanks. I am going to go ahead and get the ORE sway bar then. From the pictures it looks like a very well made product.

I was wondering about this too. I would like to see more pics of it.

I was wondering what "Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included" means. It has that listed on their website stating it comes with the kit? Maybe they changed that?

"• Fits all Jeep Wrangler’s 07+, 2 Door and 4 Door
• Allows the uses of long travel coilover shocks in the rear of your JK without the need for doing any major cutting.
• Absolutely no cutting of the body.
• Bolt on system
• Offers up to 14” of vertical wheel travel
• Optimizes Short Arm and Long Arm suspension system, from every manufacturer without modification. (Rancho Long Arm needs modification)
• Adjustable ride height
• Four Ply limit strap included.
• Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included.
• ¾ inch chromoly heim joints.
• Stainless steel misalignments
• Grade 8 hardware
• Allows for use of 35” up to 42” tires (Larger than 37: Body Trimming required)
• Use of most major manufactures off the shelf coilover’s

Note: Exhaust modifications required

OPTIONS (choose below)
• EVO Lever Skid Plate - sold separately
• 2.0 Diameter King Prerunner Series Coilovers - sold separately

[RedneckJeep]

Eddie....just curious, can you tell me in YOUR words...without sounding like the EVO web site description what this has allowed Project JK to do that it could not before? It's a serious departure from a standard suspension. I get the wheel travel....and the not having to cut the Jeep for longer shocks. This is the damndest thing I ever saw. How does it ride on the road?

[wayoflifette]

Eddie....just curious, can you tell me in YOUR words...without sounding like the EVO web site description what this has allowed Project JK to do that it could not before? It's a serious departure from a standard suspension. I get the wheel travel....and the not having to cut the Jeep for longer shocks. This is the damndest thing I ever saw. How does it ride on the road?

I'm not Eddie....but....I'll answer anyway. :D

In my opinion the single best thing the EVO coilover setup has given us is stability! :yup: Because of the extreme articulation we can now keep all tires on the ground and with the body of the jeep remaining relatively level.

Here are a couple photos...same obstacle, one with a standard 4" coil lift and ours with the EVO Flex system. The 1st jeep can't keep all tires on the ground and so it is off balance while our jeep (with all tires on the ground) remains stable and level. :cool:

Hanging a tire and not as stable:
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=112934

All 4 on the ground and perfectly stable:
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=112871


Also, the on-road ride is excellent...very smooth. :thumbsup:

[wayoflife]

Eddie....just curious, can you tell me in YOUR words...without sounding like the EVO web site description what this has allowed Project JK to do that it could not before? It's a serious departure from a standard suspension. I get the wheel travel....and the not having to cut the Jeep for longer shocks. This is the damndest thing I ever saw. How does it ride on the road?

honestly, the huge amount of wheel travel that you can get and by virtue of it, the stability that it offers is the single biggest reason why i wanted to get this setup. regarding the horizontal positioning of the coil-overs and the use of cantilevers, it is my understanding that this is the only practical way to make things work and work well. as far as on road performance goes, in my opinion, it rides and handles better than stock and is cadillac smooth. :yup:

LOL!! :rotflmao1: looks like WOLette beat me to it.

[RDY4RKS]

I was wondering about this too. I would like to see more pics of it.

I was wondering what "Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included" means. It has that listed on their website stating it comes with the kit? Maybe they changed that?

"• Fits all Jeep Wrangler’s 07+, 2 Door and 4 Door
• Allows the uses of long travel coilover shocks in the rear of your JK without the need for doing any major cutting.
• Absolutely no cutting of the body.
• Bolt on system
• Offers up to 14” of vertical wheel travel
• Optimizes Short Arm and Long Arm suspension system, from every manufacturer without modification. (Rancho Long Arm needs modification)
• Adjustable ride height
• Four Ply limit strap included.
• Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included.
• ¾ inch chromoly heim joints.
• Stainless steel misalignments
• Grade 8 hardware
• Allows for use of 35” up to 42” tires (Larger than 37: Body Trimming required)
• Use of most major manufactures off the shelf coilover’s

Note: Exhaust modifications required

OPTIONS (choose below)
• EVO Lever Skid Plate - sold separately
• 2.0 Diameter King Prerunner Series Coilovers - sold separately

Good find. I think Mel needs to clarify if the sway bar is included or not. I got the optional skid plate when I bought my kit, but no sway bar. The guys at SLC who did the install are saying I have to purchase the sway bar. I am not sure what is going on, but I would think that if ORE's website says the sway bar is included then it should be.

[RAZORBACK]

Good find. I think Mel needs to clarify if the sway bar is included or not. I got the optional skid plate when I bought my kit, but no sway bar. The guys at SLC who did the install are saying I have to purchase the sway bar. I am not sure what is going on, but I would think that if ORE's website says the sway bar is included then it should be.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. SLC was completing your setup as they were starting on mine. Sweet rig buy the way! Wish you were going to Moab with us.
I just found an old post that said it was decided not to include the sway bar due to trying to keep the cost low, which I understand. I just wish they would update the website because it's kind of misleading. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do or if I'm gonna have time to order the sway bar(that I thought I had already bought) and install it before I leave for Moab. Oh well, I'll see Mel in Moab. Maybe he'll have an extra one with him.

[RAZORBACK]

I'm not Eddie but maybe I can give you some more real world feedback. I just had the Evo Coilovers and Lever installed. I made a 500 mile round trip this weekend and the ride is truly amazing. I had a pretty good ride before with the setup I was running, but the Evo System totally blows it out of the water. I'm a pretty skeptical person, but after 5 minutes on these horribly maintained highways in Louisiana, with endless crosslevel, horrible grade, potholes, 3-8 inch drop-offs from uneven highway panels, I was convinced I had made the right decision. I have to drive my own 22 mile version of the Baja 1000 everyday to work, and this system totally soaks up all of the imperfections in the highway. Of course you've seen all of Eddie's and other's pictures of how it flexes so there is no doubt it outperforms offroad. If you're on the fence, go for it.


Eddie....just curious, can you tell me in YOUR words...without sounding like the EVO web site description what this has allowed Project JK to do that it could not before? It's a serious departure from a standard suspension. I get the wheel travel....and the not having to cut the Jeep for longer shocks. This is the damndest thing I ever saw. How does it ride on the road?

[RedneckJeep]

I'm not Eddie....but....I'll answer anyway. :D

In my opinion the single best thing the EVO coilover setup has given us is stability! :yup: Because of the extreme articulation we can now keep all tires on the ground and with the body of the jeep remaining relatively level.

Here are a couple photos...same obstacle, one with a standard 4" coil lift and ours with the EVO Flex system. The 1st jeep can't keep all tires on the ground and so it is off balance while our jeep (with all tires on the ground) remains stable and level. :cool:

Hanging a tire and not as stable:
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=112934

All 4 on the ground and perfectly stable:
http://www.project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=112871


Also, the on-road ride is excellent...very smooth. :thumbsup:


AWESOME comparison! You summed it up perfectly, wayoflifette. Thanks! I bet Eddie can't even find the Jeep keys without you, can he???? :rotflmao2: :rotflmao1: :brows:

[RedneckJeep]

LOL!! :rotflmao1: looks like WOLette beat me to it.

Yeah she did. She's on the ball. Now......what's your excuse???? :rotflmao2:

Seriously, that suspension is slap insane. Somebody had some serious imagination to come up with that. The thing is, it's not just something different, it's something different that WORKS.

[RedneckJeep]

I'm not Eddie but maybe I can give you some more real world feedback. I just had the Evo Coilovers and Lever installed. I made a 500 mile round trip this weekend and the ride is truly amazing. I had a pretty good ride before with the setup I was running, but the Evo System totally blows it out of the water. I'm a pretty skeptical person, but after 5 minutes on these horribly maintained highways in Louisiana, with endless crosslevel, horrible grade, potholes, 3-8 inch drop-offs from uneven highway panels, I was convinced I had made the right decision. I have to drive my own 22 mile version of the Baja 1000 everyday to work, and this system totally soaks up all of the imperfections in the highway. Of course you've seen all of Eddie's and other's pictures of how it flexes so there is no doubt it outperforms offroad. If you're on the fence, go for it.

No you ain't Eddie, but you sho nuff added some valuable input. Thanks!

[Evolution]

I was wondering about this too. I would like to see more pics of it.

I was wondering what "Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included" means. It has that listed on their website stating it comes with the kit? Maybe they changed that?

"• Fits all Jeep Wrangler’s 07+, 2 Door and 4 Door
• Allows the uses of long travel coilover shocks in the rear of your JK without the need for doing any major cutting.
• Absolutely no cutting of the body.
• Bolt on system
• Offers up to 14” of vertical wheel travel
• Optimizes Short Arm and Long Arm suspension system, from every manufacturer without modification. (Rancho Long Arm needs modification)
• Adjustable ride height
• Four Ply limit strap included.
• Integrated competition tuned sway bar system included.
• ¾ inch chromoly heim joints.
• Stainless steel misalignments
• Grade 8 hardware
• Allows for use of 35” up to 42” tires (Larger than 37: Body Trimming required)
• Use of most major manufactures off the shelf coilover’s

Note: Exhaust modifications required

OPTIONS (choose below)
• EVO Lever Skid Plate - sold separately
• 2.0 Diameter King Prerunner Series Coilovers - sold separately

Sorry for the typo on the website. We will get it fixed.

It is an optional integraded swaybar.

This is a 4140 heat treated swaybar with billet aluminum arms.

Sorry for the confusion.

EVO...

[RDY4RKS]

Thanks for straightening that out. Is the swaybar listed on your website? If not, how can I order it?

Sorry for the typo on the website. We will get it fixed.

It is an optional integraded swaybar.

This is a 4140 heat treated swaybar with billet aluminum arms.

Sorry for the confusion.

EVO...

[1 BAJK]

Thanks for straightening that out. Is the swaybar listed on your website? If not, how can I order it?

Me too since I had to remove the stock swaybar on my first trip out. As and afterthought, why not bring a few to Moab next week? And if you read this Mel, bring some spanner wrenches that fit the adjusters. Thanks in advance.

[RAZORBACK]

Me too since I had to remove the stock swaybar on my first trip out. As and afterthought, why not bring a few to Moab next week?

yeah, that would be sweet.

[Muffins]

Wow, that looks awesome, any ideas on how much the bolt on kit will cost? Or when it will be available?

[RedneckJeep]

Wow, that looks awesome, any ideas on how much the bolt on kit will cost? Or when it will be available?

http://www.offroadevolution.com/store/proddetail.php?prod=EVO-LEVER

[RDY4RKS]

yes, i did have some. the sway bar would shift over and at an extreme flex, it sometimes swiped in and hit the factory track bar mount on the frame. to address this, i pulled the sway bar over to the passenger side as much as i could and then installed a set of collars on it right next to the bushings and this prevented it from shifting over again. however, i have since installed the new sway bar ORE makes.


Do you have any pictures of it installed? Mine arrived this week without instructions. I called ORE, but guess what - they are closed for ESJ.

Overall the install looks fairly straight forward. But there are a couple things: 1. The arms are notched on the end that connects to the sway links, which way should the notch face? 2. Mine came with 4 plastic bushings - 2 long 2 short. how are these installed.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

[Muffins]

Wow, thanks for the link, that's a nice looking setup!:thumbsup: