My Motor Swap build

[dsy]

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[aldaman]

I pulled the body off for easy access to everything from the top and to make it easy to maneuver the six foot + powertrain into place by myself.
The body off went pretty good.
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Looks like your approach to doing the swap with the body off makes the process a lot easier....Cant wait to see the final project...Best of luck and thanks for keeping us posted...What trans are you using? Thanks...

[dsy]

Looks like your approach to doing the swap with the body off makes the process a lot easier....Cant wait to see the final project...Best of luck and thanks for keeping us posted...What trans are you using? Thanks...

Its a 545RFE auto.

[Camp Crocker]

Brovo big dog for talking on such a project, my hats off to you! :clap::thumbsup:

[JonnyCub]

WOW. i wish i had that much time on my hands. :crazyeyes:

[gold knight]

x2, with the body out of the way it looks like a piece of cake.:thumbsup:

[QKSILVER]

Looking forward to your next post!

[MORTON]

that is awsome:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Kachad]

Looking good - keeping an eye on this thread! :thumbsup:

[norcalJK]

wow, man. thats crazy!! diggin the body-off approach, seems like it would make everything easy. cant wait to see pics of puttin it all back together.

[Dylanjam77]

Good job man!! I've seen people wishing they had your money or time for this... I will say, I wish I had the know how. :yup: Can't wait to see it done.

[Wes]

Crazy man, pretty big undertaking, but it looks like it's going great!

[Geeper4x4]

Skills going on crazy for this big project. I haven't seen anyone pulling the body for the engine swap. Yeah, I'm jealous of the whole thing. I will keep watching for more progress. :thumbsup:

[whtIwrk4]

Good job! I gotta hand it to you, that's a ballsy build. i'm sure there'll be some bugs to work out, but when all is said and done, it will be an awsome Jeep. This is a thread I'd definitly keeping an eye on.:thumbsup:

[Yamaha90]

:drool::drool: wow man. thats ballsy

[eDiveBuddy]

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NICE! We were just talking about this at work tonight. Wish I had the time and know how.

[atomicmecha]

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6789/afterabathdn9.jpg



look, topless and doorless. :rotflmao2:





awesome job, can't wait to see the finishing of this. if i had a garage i'd be doing this kind of stuff all the time. you lucky dog. :bleh:


oh, and isn't that a 6.1? not a 5.7? :thinking:

[JK-Fire]

First off let me say you have balls as big as church bells.:rotflmao2:

#2 looks great will have to stay up with this one.

[TBJK]

Hell i wished i had the money to make a swap like that and put in dana 60's

[Ryno]

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6789/afterabathdn9.jpg

That's freaking sweet. Bolt on a seat and take it off-roading! :D

I wonder how much the body and interior of the JK weighs... :hmm: Any estimate?

[texmexjeeper]

:thumbsup:WOW!!!
Lookin great so far, cant wait to see it when you are done, keep up the great work:thumbsup:

[Mulewhisperer]

I knew I should of taken shop class in H.S.!!! :eek2:

[SGT.]

That is sooo amazing.........:eek2:

I know I could take it apart.... but wow, I dont think I would ever get it back together..
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[JK-Q8]

Thats cool. only if you were in kuwait i would be living in your garage and watching every step. i love this. really cool. good luck.

[4WHLN]

AWSOME!!:thumbsup: Cant wait for the next round of pictures.

Oh where did you get the studdy antenna. Ive been looking for one.

[dsy]

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[TripleJeep_99]

Great build.......and lots of NUTTER's to do!

What 5.7L Hemi MDS?

Did you use one from the Jeep GC, Commander? or Charger, Magnum, 300C or Ram Truck?

What's the HP & Torque???

[Augie]

You are my hero!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[robin]

wow very impressive. but can you change your own oil? :rotflmao2: hats of to you.:thumbsup:

[dsy]

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[RedneckJeep]

Man, that's a first class job.:thumbsup: Just curious on the motor mounts/frame brackets and transmission mount and driveshafts. I know you said you removed the motor mount frame brackets, but how about the trans mount and drive shafts? Did the new stuff just bolt up? What did you use for motor mounts and frame brackets?

[TeraFlex]

How much time are you into it so far? I've got a co-worker that is going to do the same kit.

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[RDY4RKS]

Great build. My hat is off to you for even trying this. Keep up the great work. :thumbsup:

[greenmachine07]

man i cannot think of any other way to spend my time. that looks soooooo much like a weekend project that i wish i could do:eek2: you lucky dog you:brows:

[Lo2aY]

Looks really good so far. hats off to you buddy. even If I had the time. I don't think i'll be able to-do that. keep us posted with pics.


I'll be keeping an eye on this :popcorn:

[jerseyjk08]

that looks amazing.. lots of credit to you for tackling this build on your own.

[dsy]

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[Ewok]

Damn! I couldn't even imagine doing that on my own! Great Job!

[TripleJeep_99]

Its a 2008 LX motor, I really dont know what the numbers are. Somewhere around the 350 and 390 but with the high performance exhaust and CAI I'm sure it will be more than enough for my needs. Not looking for a racer, just something that if I need power to get out of, or avoid trouble its there, and maybe even improve the gas milage a little.


That is awesome....I can tell you that the LX motors from the 300, Charger, now defunked Magnum are great motors...good power. You are looking at about 350 HP. You will be very impressed with the power and Hemi roar!!!

With my 06 Magnum R/T AWD I was getting about 16 City and 24 MPG highway but it is alittle more aerodynamic than the JK. With over 85K kilometers I have no issues. Also, side note if you want mileage let me know and I will forward on a home made MDS indicator light for your Hemi that I placed in my Magnum to know when it shuts down to 4 cylinder mode and get better fuel economy.

Keep up the great work! and get some sound clips when you get it together!

[allterrain]

Amazing dsy. I have nowhere near the ambition or know how to tackle such a project. Awesome!

[texmexjeeper]

let me know when you're done so i can bring mne in to get this done too:thumbsup::thumbsup:

of course i'll buy the engine and all the BEERS!!!!!:ya::thumbsup::ya::thumbsup:

[dsy]

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[MikeReo]

I cant wait to see the finished product. I think its incredible that you are doing this entire project by yourself.:thumbsup:

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[Rescue1]

did you just rough up the frame and apply the POR15, or take it down to bare metal first?

[screws]

Damn dsy looking good. I am sure you are excited that you are getting close to being done. Awesome job on the build cant wait to see a video clip of it.

[dsy]

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[PONCH]

looking good!

[SASQUATCH]

Friggin Sweet! :thumbsup:

[Seancass]

This is a great looking project. you make it seem so easy. ya know, just pop the body off, yank out the old, toss in the new and drop her back on. how hard could it be?

i don't know how you're doing it so fast and so well, but it's inspiring. keep up the great work.

[TemplarAZ]

Subscribed.

This is awesome - thanks for documenting everything. I wish I had the knowledge and $$$ to do something like this.

If you don't mind me asking - how much $$$ so far for this do-it-yourself project so far?

[nclehmann]

Damn! And I thought I was da man when I installed my front coil spacers and wheel spacers! :sad2:

Everything's relative I guess. Great sequence of pictures. Between this thread and Camp's Orange Crush thread, I feel like a housewife hooked on daytime soap operas......(deep announcer-type voice) "What'll happen next to DSY's build....join us tomorrow on Days of Our Jeeps...." :thumbsup:

[TripleJeep_99]

How would something like that hook up? Would be interesting to see if ever really does shut down to 4

With the MDS I found the 4 cylinders kicked in around 20-25MPH upto 83 MPH depending on of course: if you get on the go pedal, any incline that requires more juice to maintain speed and idling is only in 8 cylinder mode.

Here is the steps I used to make my own MDS indicator light.

http://lxforums.com/articles/MDS_light.pdf

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=11575


Hope the links work.

[RDY4RKS]

Looking amazing. Can't wait to see (and hear?) it when it is all buttoned up. Good job.:thumbsup:

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[08RedRecon]

This build is incredible. Great job.

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[TripleJeep_99]

Cool, thanks for the links. Will have to check with AEV to see if the computer is the same as that write up


I hope it will work for you.....I followed the write-up and I am no electric goo roo but I managed with a few beer and it has worked flawless in my Magnum for 2 1/2 years now and it has helped with fuel economy.

[trucco]

This is just great what you're doing. Seems like it will be done soon. Hope everything is just right with this awesome build.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[JK-Fire]

Looking good! Can't wait to see it done.

[BlackNorthernJK]

So cool :yup:
More than anything else....thanks for all the GREAT pics you've been kind enough to take and post...def subscribing to this thread.
Keep up the great work man :thumbsup:

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[SmokeShowin]

Congrats. Best of luck with the reborn baby! :thumbsup:

[bigbluejk]

cant wait to see it

[pearl-drum-man]

Awesome job and congrats! Bet you can't wait to drive it! Do you have plans for more lift/tires, etc?

[dsy]

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[RDY4RKS]

Great Job! :clap:

[JonnyCub]

O man i get the chills when i think about that. Great Job man.

[freshjk]

Love the build!! What was your total cost on the build?? if you don't mind sharing.....Can't wait to see some video

[TripleJeep_99]

VERY NICE WORK!!!!! Looks sharp.....will the 5.7L HEMI engine cover fit under the hood???

Man....I should take out my 5.7L Hemi out of my Dodge Magnum R/T and slam it in our JK unlimited!!!

You will get endless amounts of fun with that motor....talk about a sleeper!!!!

[saskipper]

Does everything work now? ABS, A/C, all gauges?

That's awesome.

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[Kastiron]

Just found this thread today. Amazing work, you certainly are an inspiration to the rest of us DIY types.

Thanks a ton for the descriptions, can't wait for video if you can post one.

[JKChad]

Just wondering myself.. What the average cost of the AVE kit and 5.7 engine and tranny? I love stuff like this.. looks stock and I'm sure it's gonna be a blast offroad. Crongrates on a great job!


-Chad-

[JackMac4]

this is one of the most inspirational threads I've read all year. God I want to do this.

[eDiveBuddy]

This is :jawdrop:awesome! :drool:

Doug, I've already blamed you for my batteries:D I just showed my wife this and the look in her eyes she knows I want to do it.

So how long did it take. From your first post to last was not that long, but in hours, how long? Was the only welding the motor mount? Where did you get the exhaust? Where did you get the motor and transmission? New used? How much? Are you doing a write up???? Please????!!???

[JK-Fire]

:eek2:That thing is a beast..:eek2::2thumbs:

[defkon]

this is one of the most impressive things I have seen on this site! congrats!

[08RedRecon]

Great job man. Well done.:clap:

[ElovesC]

Now I am wanting to do this! Can you post some gas milage numbers when you have them? I am thinking that the power to weight ratio is better the milage might be better?

[Rattler]

Dam i wish i had the know how to dump a hemi in my dog . not use to these v-6's . maybe someday i will get one with a hemi or have one put in mine,nice man

[Ryno]

Now I am wanting to do this! Can you post some gas milage numbers when you have them? I am thinking that the power to weight ratio is better the milage might be better?

I wouldn't count on it. The Grand Cherokee with the 5.7L Hemi gets 13 mpg city/18 highway, and it's A LOT more aerodynamic than the JK.

[Bodo]

Wow, what a thread. Awesome job!! I'm curious though, Will there be any problems with state inspections? I know some states don't even have inspections but how about for us that do? I can imagine Virginia saying Oh no, it has to be left the way it came from the factory or some such nonsense.

[kflash]

Just saw an episode of Extreme 4x4 about a hemi TJ motor swap:

Motor has to be offered at some point in the same Make vehicle
Motor has to be same year or newer
Has to have all emission gear equiped
Has to pass emmisions

I might be mission somethin, but there was a list of four things to make it 50 state legal.

[TxCop07]

Wow that is going to take some patients to put back together

[TripleJeep_99]

Heck, the 3.8 couldn't be any worse in the Magnum than the 2.7 is from the factory. Just swap 'em out.

I should....but with the Magnum discontinued...I think I will put it up on blocks

[Screamin Lizard Customs]

Good Job:thumbsup:

Looks like you really have some good mechanical knowledge.

We need to wheel together sometime

Great to see another Hemi JK on the road!

Gerry

[Imkman]

kick ass
good to see you working on your own jeep without intend to sell...


how is the kit from aev helping? does it make the progess easy? or as easy as it can be?


how about a video of the sound with exhuast ?

[Geeper4x4]

AMAZING! You really moved on this project!
Love this build in the garage by yourself.


Promise what you can deliver.
Deliver more than what you promised!

Thanks:thumbsup:

[JKJosh]

Good Job man-looks good. I would like to see some video or soundclip to hear the beast......

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[miguelylucy]

looking great damn I wish I had the money to do this :sad2:

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[JonnyCub]

sounds GREAT want more. let me know when there is more. :thumbsup:

[JKChad]

Not sure if this is going to work or not. Here is a very short sound clip.
http://www.vimeo.com/1912231


WOW, what a tease.. lol.. sounds amazing!

[SASQUATCH]

WOW, what a tease.. lol.. sounds amazing!

damn I can't get it to load at work :rollingeyes:

nevermind I got it, sounds great DSY :thumbsup:

[RDY4RKS]

Not sure if this is going to work or not. Here is a very short sound clip.
http://www.vimeo.com/1912231

That sounds awesome! :clap:

[ShadedOutDoors]

Sweet dude most def put up another video come on man you can't leave us hanging like that. Must feel good driving around knowing you got some balls under the hood.

[Monty-]

that is badass. the best part is you did the work yourself. :thumbsup:

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[Snuggly Ranger]

That is amazing. Awesome job!

[Camp Crocker]

Not sure if this is going to work or not. Here is a very short sound clip.
http://www.vimeo.com/1912231

Yep, thats a Hemi! :thumbsup:

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[SGT.]

that is awsome, great job. :thumbsup:

[08RUBIJK]

Sweet Jeep - kudos :thumbsup:

[Camp Crocker]

Nothing like your putting together, but enough to make me a happy camper :yup:

Dude, if I was given a jeep dealer work shop, an AEV kit and a hemi, and 4 months to do it, and a million dollars when I finished, I would still fall short. My hats off to you my friend. Camp:cheers:

[Strong Bad]

I would love to do this, but I don't have the facility. :sad2:

[Monty-]

all i can say is WOW. looks like you have a slight nose down stance. are you going to do anything else to the suspension? i'd be grinning from ear to ear if i had a hemi too.

[landshark]

all I can say is...very impressive!!

[amff27]

You really make that look esy. Good luck

[smeg94]

hemi....semi... I'd be grinning too. Looks good.

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[kntr]

So how much money do you have in parts? How did it save you doing it yourself? Used Hemi swaps go for $10k where I live.

[Ben Hedrick]

dsy,
First of all GREAT Job!!! I have my 5.7 HEMI now and expect to start my project soon. Thank for such a GREAT write up and now I really can't wait to start my project too!!!! :clap:

Question: Do you still think pulling the whole body off was better than just the front end? My problem would be finding the lift for the body and the where to put it.

Thanks, Ben

[TripleJeep_99]

Great work DSY....my hats off to you for doing this all yourself!!!

So, when can you make it up to Revelstoke, BC and help with a Hemi conversion on my JK??? :bleh:

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[robin]

amazing!!!!!!

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[kntr]

My total cost was 10. includes motor, trans, aev kit, and all the extra parts needed. It took me almost a year to get everything together that I needed. I bought when I found good deals.


Can you give a breakdown of the price of parts? Just an estimate would be nice.

I was thinking of doing it myself but the local shop will do a USED swap for $10k. I might as well have them do it if it cost you that in parts. They have done 50 or so conversions.

Did you use a new or used motor/tranny?

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[SaharaBlackNo1]

Can you give a breakdown of the price of parts? Just an estimate would be nice.

I was thinking of doing it myself but the local shop will do a USED swap for $10k. I might as well have them do it if it cost you that in parts. They have done 50 or so conversions.

Did you use a new or used motor/tranny?

You have a local shop that will do a swap for 10k that will pass state inspection? That's a great price!

[Ben Hedrick]

You have a local shop that will do a swap for 10k that will pass state inspection? That's a great price!


That's what I am saying!!! What shop does he know of that will do it for $10K??? I am about to start this same project and I estimate it's going to be $10K or more for the parts alone too...

Ben

[RDY4RKS]

Can you give a breakdown of the price of parts? Just an estimate would be nice.

I was thinking of doing it myself but the local shop will do a USED swap for $10k. I might as well have them do it if it cost you that in parts. They have done 50 or so conversions.

Did you use a new or used motor/tranny?

If I could get this done for $10K around me, I would have already done it. As long as it is street legal and will pass smog - go for it.

[shannont]

Just found this thread... all I can say is WOW!! That is amazing! I restored a 67 Mustang from the ground up, but have been too intimidated to try this on my JK. I don't do well with vehicles that have brains..... Maybe it's time to start reconsidering! GREAT job!

[2drREDROCK]

That was one kick a$$ build:clap:
Nice job makes me want the same:brows:

[TKJEEP]

Two Words : BAD A$$$$:D
Doug,Thank you for take the time and effort in sharing the build !!!

[TAMPAJEEPER]

Thats awesome man:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[RedneckJeep]

Dude, give us an update. How much tire smoke? How's it runnin?

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[knotaddicted]

That looks great! You did an awsome job. Hopefully the price of engines will drop enough that I can do this some day.

[OhhSeven]

First, I'd like to say that was pretty cool that you attempted and completed the job. My hats off to you.

Second, I wish I lived close to "OutThere" cause I would have been there in a minute to feed you beer or pizza or whatever it took just to watch such an accomplishment.

Third, and most important, I would like to see the breakdown of parts. I'm really interested in where you got the motor and tranny. I just ran across this thread for the first time today and it was a lot to read through but I though I got all of the important stuff and I didn't see you mention where you got the parts.

Thanks again for sharing this and I am truly humbled by the experience.

[OhhSeven]

Scratch the last question in my previous post. I just looked at the JK Hemi V8 Install Guide from AEV and it looks like they offer everthing direct from them. I'm assuming that's were you got everything.

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[OhhSeven]

If you don't mind me asking what was the seller's name/store on ebay for the motor? Also, what vehicle did the tranny come from?

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[shannont]

Not sure if this is going to work or not. Here is a very short sound clip.
http://www.vimeo.com/1912231

Simply AMAZING!!

[spartan99]

Wow that's one sick JK!

[07rubisteve]

Jut saw this thread today........:bowdown:...

[RedneckJeep]

Mods, this thread should be a sticky to show everybody that this type of swap can be done at home with simple tools and not necessarily by a full on professional shop. It IS indeed professional work, however. :thumbsup:

[luisjg]

Omg,, this is insane !! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[ShrockTaco]

Awesome work and accomplishment .. :clap:

[gregkuiper]

My wife would flip the f**k out if she came into the garage and saw my Jeep in that state. She gets freaked out enough when do things like trim the fender flares.:eek2:

Awesome job.

[Ben Hedrick]

My wife would flip the f**k out if she came into the garage and saw my Jeep in that state. She gets freaked out enough when do things like trim the fender flares.:eek2:

Awesome job.

dsy, tell them what your wife did say when she got home and saw your BRAND NEW Jeep body hanging in the garage... :brows:

And remember this folks, this Rubicon (dsy's Rubicon) is THE FIRST Rubicon off the Jeep line in Ohio!!! He picked it up there and drove it home and took it apart... Now that takes some nerve and confidence in your abilities! Again :clap:...

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[ky1690]

wow I really like the painted cover, it matches really well.

[RAZORBACK]

Awesome job man. Really nice work!:thumbsup:


Probably too blingy but was bored today so I got out the rattle cans. Did not care for the plain grey look of the engine cover insert.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8425/paintedcover1.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5595/paintedcover2.jpg

[rodney]

I like the red Looks alot better then the black. So have you ran into any problems since the install?

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[Northernmedic]

Great work! you got it looking factory. Wish i had not only the funds but the balls to do this

[Ben Hedrick]

Doug, that looks good! Nice job!!!

"Hopefully", we are getting to the wrap up of my project... I am about to go crazy waiting on this project....:crazyeyes:

Ben

[efotonik]

Simply amazing work dsy, looks b-e-a-utiful! :clap:

I just found this today and read the entire thing. Great work, big balls, and awesome photos along the way, thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:

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[wayland1985]

Installed my Katzkins this weekend. Still need to get a shop to put the headrest covers on. I did not want to take the chance of ripping the stitching out.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2669/newleather1.jpg

Had to shoe horn the switches in for the heated seats. Not that many convient places to put them.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8782/heatswitches.jpg

Not to completely detract... how does the leather stand up to the weather?


And how were they to put on?

Looks very nice!

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[cyruspura]

Wow. I'm extremely impressed with your build. On a side note, you mentioned using the Jeep JK Service Manual. Where could I get one of these, and are they very expensive?

[Ben Hedrick]

dsy,
Your new seat cover do look really good! I've got the Katkinz in my Chevy 2055HD and I really like them too. You really are the "Offical DIY Project Guy"!!! Do you think that you could swap the back doors with the front doors? I bet that you could... :wink:

Great job and of course thanks for the phone support today on my Hemi project! :thumbsup:

Ben

[Ben Hedrick]

Wow. I'm extremely impressed with your build. On a side note, you mentioned using the Jeep JK Service Manual. Where could I get one of these, and are they very expensive?

I just received my Jeep Service manual in the mail on Friday. I bought CD instead of the paper manual that way I could print what I need and mark it up or even print it for someone else. The CD was $120 and the paper manual was $320

I called: 800-890-4038

[Amway Man]

:bowdown: Your Jeep is awesome! :eek2:

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[Muffins]

This is one awesome build thread, thanks for the pictures, I hope to do this conversion one day.

[cyruspura]

I just received my Jeep Service manual in the mail on Friday. I bought CD instead of the paper manual that way I could print what I need and mark it up or even print it for someone else. The CD was $120 and the paper manual was $320

I called: 800-890-4038

Thanks for the information, definitely need to pick one of these up.

[Dano9969]

Great build! You're an inspiration to all of us do it your selfers. Keep up the posts and updates! :thumbsup:

[yilive]

looks awesome and bright dont forget to keep your sunglasses on lol

[highoctane]

Whats with all the gone posts?