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JacksJeep
11-07-2006, 01:41 PM
Has anyone figured out how to rewire the locker switch so it can be engaged in 4wd high (or 2wd)? I understand the safety reasons for the OEM settings, but it would be nice to be able to lock the rear axle in 4wd high.

SpudRacer
11-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Locker Switch?!?! Man, I'd just be happy right now to have my order reach "D" status!!!

Seriously, I too, am waiting for someone to figure it out. If not, I'll tackle it when I get my JK some time next year...

Tom
Bryson City, NC

JPRS51
11-07-2006, 06:33 PM
I have all wiring diagrams needed to do it, but it will not be a nice easy task like the TJ. I will keep you updated as we check into it a little more.

jkrubi2d
11-07-2006, 07:17 PM
maybe a dumb question but if you get that to work in 4wdhigh is that going to be ok for the clutch do to the gearing? if not man I can not wait untill it snows lol :D

JPRS51
11-07-2006, 07:56 PM
maybe a dumb question but if you get that to work in 4wdhigh is that going to be ok for the clutch do to the gearing? if not man I can not wait untill it snows lol :D

Not sure what you exactly what you mean.

Right now you can only use the front and rear lockers in Low Range. The bummer is if you do a lot of stuff in sand or even mud it is nice to be able to lock up the axles at higher speeds, even in High Range. But the good side to it is not allowing someone who does not understand when lockers are helpful and when they can be harmful to safe driving.

The factory built the system the way it is for safety reasons. In low range is the speed is low enough that they do not need to worry about someone using the lockers while driving around on the street in situations where locked axles would help to induce a loss of traction (skid). A situation like this would be turning on ice, where you want each tire to be able to spin at it needed speed to maintain traction. If they allowed you to turn the lockers on at higher street type speeds I am sure you would get some person who would think that if they are driving on ice they need more traction and put the vehicle in 4 high with the locker on. Each time they made a turn there would be at least 2 wheel that would skid rather than roll on the ice. Could casue a dangerous situation.

dhoffroad
11-07-2006, 09:02 PM
I'm looking forward to this too !! IMO it is a must....

hey Eddie when Jeff (or any one else) gets this posted maby you could come up with a sticky that has links to posts like these kind of "mods" ??

grishuha
11-08-2006, 01:57 PM
You are talking about the Tru-Lock, right?

Which are standard front and rear on the Rubicon and optional rear on Sahara and X.

JPRS51
11-08-2006, 02:04 PM
You are talking about the Tru-Lock, right?

Which are standard front and rear on the Rubicon and optional rear on Sahara and X.

That is correct.

jkrubi2d
11-08-2006, 04:18 PM
Not sure what you exactly what you mean.

Right now you can only use the front and rear lockers in Low Range. The bummer is if you do a lot of stuff in sand or even mud it is nice to be able to lock up the axles at higher speeds, even in High Range. But the good side to it is not allowing someone who does not understand when lockers are helpful and when they can be harmful to safe driving.

The factory built the system the way it is for safety reasons. In low range is the speed is low enough that they do not need to worry about someone using the lockers while driving around on the street in situations where locked axles would help to induce a loss of traction (skid). A situation like this would be turning on ice, where you want each tire to be able to spin at it needed speed to maintain traction. If they allowed you to turn the lockers on at higher street type speeds I am sure you would get some person who would think that if they are driving on ice they need more traction and put the vehicle in 4 high with the locker on. Each time they made a turn there would be at least 2 wheel that would skid rather than roll on the ice. Could casue a dangerous situation.


No I understand how they work and when to use, but thanks that would be helpful for someone new to offloading

Ok basically I was asking if the clutch is going to be able to turn all four wheels in high. Mainly do to the difference in gears there will be much greater torque trying to make the clutch slip….So will it slip. If not then I can’t wait to lock my jk in the 3ft of snow/sand/mud/rivers

grishuha
11-08-2006, 04:19 PM
Is it possible to install the front Tru-Lock that comes standard on a Rubicon on a Sahara by a dealer?

2k2wranglerx
11-08-2006, 04:36 PM
honestly. this mod isn't THAT necessary for most wheelers. we do have 6 gears! I've never needed more speed than low would give me.

JPRS51
11-08-2006, 05:13 PM
No I understand how they work and when to use, but thanks that would be helpful for someone new to offloading

Ok basically I was asking if the clutch is going to be able to turn all four wheels in high. Mainly do to the difference in gears there will be much greater torque trying to make the clutch slip….So will it slip. If not then I can’t wait to lock my jk in the 3ft of snow/sand/mud/rivers

Slippage of the clutch is not a problem.

BeerMonkey
11-08-2006, 05:43 PM
i hope its a regular 12v switching system, chrysler likes to use can-bus on their newer cars which would be a pain to interface with. and i sure would like to lock up the rear in 2wd for some fun snow action

SpudRacer
11-09-2006, 11:11 AM
Hey... my post from yesterday magically disappeared. Have I just been edited?!?!

TOM
Bryson City, NC

JeepYak
11-09-2006, 04:25 PM
Is it possible to install the front Tru-Lock that comes standard on a Rubicon on a Sahara by a dealer?

No because Rubicon comes with a D44 front axle. The Sahara has a 30 or 35, I haven't been able to figure out which yet since Jeep hasn't posted the front axle on their website. Am I correct everybody, or no??? Is there a D35 front axle??? D44 rear axle is standard on all Unlimited models, and an upgrade on X two door with trailer tow package. But I don't know what the front axle is on any of the models. I forgot to look when I test drove it. :confused:

JPRS51
11-09-2006, 04:47 PM
High Pinion Dana 30 is only front axle other than the 44 on teh Rubi's

nam6869usmc
11-09-2006, 06:11 PM
No because Rubicon comes with a D44 front axle. The Sahara has a 30 or 35, I haven't been able to figure out which yet since Jeep hasn't posted the front axle on their website. Am I correct everybody, or no??? Is there a D35 front axle??? D44 rear axle is standard on all Unlimited models, and an upgrade on X two door with trailer tow package. But I don't know what the front axle is on any of the models. I forgot to look when I test drove it. :confused:

Great explanation here..
Enhanced Dana Axles
The foundation of Jeep Wrangler's suspension – providing the required strength, durability and off-road mettle – are beefy Dana axles that feature larger pinion shafts, pinion bearings, axle joints and ring gears. In addition, all 2007 Jeep Wrangler front axles feature driveshaft attachments on top, versus underneath, for greater gear strength and ground clearance.

Standard Jeep Wrangler X and Sahara models feature an enhanced Dana 30 front and Dana 35 rear axle. Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X and Sahara models feature a Dana 30 front axle and Dana 44 rear axle. Engineered to take on the most demanding trails, the all-new 2007 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon – including Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon – features enhanced heavy-duty Dana 44 front and rear axles.