JK AiROCK Suspension

[wayoflife]

Hey kids, I've done some poking around and I thought you might be interested to know that word has it, Off Road Only is planning to develop a single, one step 5" AiROCK suspension kit that will include everything needed for the install. If they can do it, it sure would be interesting to see :)

[ericdewayne]

I hope that includes new axles and shafts for us too pour to get the Rubi with the dana 44s

[wayoflife]

I hope that includes new axles and shafts for us too pour to get the Rubi with the dana 44s
LOL!! :o Maybe a set of lockers too. If only... :D

[CJ2a]

Ya know...

If you can swing the Sahara level with Good Credit at $369 a month for 60 months, if you paid yourself that $369 for 7 months BEFORE you bought your vehicle, you would have enough of a downpayment on a Rubicon with the same monthly payments (actually, slightly lower) as the Sahara.

Unfortunately, the same drill with the 'X' would take 22 months, but I wonder how many bone stock no option 'X' models will be sold? If your transaction price for the 'X' is about $20,000 with a monthly payment of roughly $410, it would only take a year of paying yourself to step up to the Rubicon.

Just a thought exercise. (^_^)

[JByer323]

Jesus. That would fit what, 37"s? 40"s?

Oh, the possibilities.

[sincityrubicon]

5" Airock on a JK would be lots of fun, I had a 03 Rubi with 4" Airock RELA, 35s ect. I called her my RedNeck Porsche :yup:

[PBR_Stitch]

5" Airock on a JK would be lots of fun, I had a 03 Rubi with 4" Airock RELA, 35s ect. I called her my RedNeck Porsche :yup:


Yea, that and you could do wheelies with it....:D

Ron

[mac]

5" Airock on a JK would be lots of fun, I had a 03 Rubi with 4" Airock RELA, 35s ect. I called her my RedNeck Porsche :yup:

hey Brian..
is there a new J K on the horizon...
time for another build...........
:yup:

[Buck Wild]

I'm new to Jeep's and which after-market products are the best. I am in the process of buying a JK and want to put a lift on...right after the purchase. I keep seeing Airock lift mentioned. What are the benefits to this setup vs. a traditional lift?

Thanks!

[Piginajeep]

I hope that includes new axles and shafts for us too pour to get the Rubi with the dana 44s


hopefully you went with the tow package to add th d44 rear..

[2k2wranglerx]

mmmmmm riding on marshmellows . . . . NICE!

[Jeepin Jason]

I'm new to Jeep's and which after-market products are the best. I am in the process of buying a JK and want to put a lift on...right after the purchase. I keep seeing Airock lift mentioned. What are the benefits to this setup vs. a traditional lift?

Thanks!

http://www.offroadonly.com/products/suspension/airock/

They replace the coil springs with computer-controlled airbags.

[Ge99ne]

pancake front to back left to right side to side on 40" superswampers-Priceless:D

[grishuha]

Ya know...

If you can swing the Sahara level with Good Credit at $369 a month for 60 months, if you paid yourself that $369 for 7 months BEFORE you bought your vehicle, you would have enough of a downpayment on a Rubicon with the same monthly payments (actually, slightly lower) as the Sahara.

What rate are would it be?

[joss097]

Any new from Off raod Only??

They advertise that they will be testing the new lift for 2 weeks but it will be more than a month (or I'm too exited to see) and no update. They probably have more to do in the shop than on their web site but I'm curious to see how it will go. Since my wife is only 5'1'', this could be a very good option since they tell that 2'' of drop can be acheive for ingress/egress. Seems good to compensate for the tire.

[pulman01]

There was a post on ROF with pics of this. I posted on this earlier on show and tell, where people were standing beside their jeeps. It is the "ultimate". There are lots of TJ Rubi's running the Nth 6" LA with Airock (Big time $$$$$). What I am wondering is if it will be compatible with other lifts. Only time will tell.
EDIT: Here is the link
http://www.******************.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=43453

[pulman01]

For those of you that don't mind spending some serious cash on a very quality suspenion system, you should check out the link above (you might have to register to the site, but its worth it).

Gives good info and pics of the Airock system. For ex., running 37's, the height that you would be entering the jeep is only 1.5" higher than stock.

[bofer84]

what are the advantages on something like this. It seems to me that it would break or something would go wrong with it, then your stuck. Just seems to make the simple "jeep" even more complicated...am i wrong

[pulman01]

I am not the most knowledgable person about the system, but generally it allows you the ability to run larger tires and keep your COG as low as possible. It also gives you the ability to adjust your height in off camber situations. On the highway, the computer monitors ride height and adjusts it according to speed, cornering, etc (this I would double check on at ORO website). I don't know that I have ever heard of anyone "popping" a bag. Everyone that has one, seems to rave about it.

[MJS_Jeep_888]

This all sounds fantastic to me in theory, so I checked out the website... but OMG that's SOOOOOOO expensive... no way that'd EVER get past the "house appropriations committee" (aka the wife). :naw: Sounds good, though!

[PBR_Stitch]

I am not the most knowledgable person about the system, but generally it allows you the ability to run larger tires and keep your COG as low as possible. It also gives you the ability to adjust your height in off camber situations. On the highway, the computer monitors ride height and adjusts it according to speed, cornering, etc (this I would double check on at ORO website). I don't know that I have ever heard of anyone "popping" a bag. Everyone that has one, seems to rave about it.

I know of only 2 bag failures. Both were due to installation 1 was due to shocks not supplied by ORO, this was real early and another was due to not cutting a web on the shock tower as per the instructions, so none that I know of due to actual wheeling. I know some of the guys that run this in the rocks hard. I ran mine in the swamps down here, where sticks are common obstacles.

Ron

[PBR_Stitch]

This all sounds fantastic to me in theory, so I checked out the website... but OMG that's SOOOOOOO expensive... no way that'd EVER get past the "house appropriations committee" (aka the wife). :naw: Sounds good, though!

That why I love mine. She asked how much was I going to spend on the Jeep, I told her at least 10K. Her reply "Just don't spend it all at once, space it out over a couple months." Man do I love her. :yup:

Ron

[pulman01]

That why I love mine. She asked how much was I going to spend on the Jeep, I told her at least 10K. Her reply "Just don't spend it all at once, space it out over a couple months." Man do I love her. :yup:

Ron

That one my friend is definitely a keeper. My wife actually told me something similiar. She told me to do whatever I wanted to with my 04 (was gonna go Nth 6" LA, etc), but ended up trading it in on a JK and she still told me to do whatever I wanted to. I am actually thinking of eventually going Airock. Probably gonna knock out axles, gearing, and order new DS before I do b/c might as well go to 37's when I do. That won't happen until I wear my current tires out though.

[bofer84]

yea. im more worried about stuff in the mud busting a bag or tearing a line while im in deep mud, then your sunk

[brade1]

I got more info today and plain on calling them tusday so i will probly be rolling bags by end of april :toung:

[rockaholic]

any updates on the airock

[rockaholic]

Never mind...answered my own question. Well, Steve answered it for me. I will be on bags by the end of May, hopefully.

Some of the kits are about ready to ship. I am like # 15.

[AndyR]

Last weekend I handed over the $$ for my JK AiROCK for as I sold my 04 Rubi (6" Nth + AiROCK) last week. The only trouble is I don't have the JK yet. From what I'm reading elsewhere, my '07 may turn into an '08.

Andy

PS Who are these folks Mac, Sincityrubicon and PBR_stitch anyway :rotflmao1:

[brade1]

I ordered mine also i was # 10 so cant wait till it gets here:D

[PBR_Stitch]

Last weekend I handed over the $$ for my JK AiROCK for as I sold my 04 Rubi (6" Nth + AiROCK) last week. The only trouble is I don't have the JK yet. From what I'm reading elsewhere, my '07 may turn into an '08.

Andy

PS Who are these folks Mac, Sincityrubicon and PBR_stitch anyway :rotflmao1:

Mac = Mac of Rubicon Owners Forum & Macs4x4products
Sincityrubicon = currently known sincity FJ cruiser of ROF
PBR_Stitch = Ron of Rubicon Owners Forum and Wanderingtrail also JRations Magazine writer, etc, etc.... Prototype testor for ORO :D

ROn

[brade1]

any body got their air rock yet just wondering i heard the shocks are still taking a little longer.

[AndyR]

I'm supposed to drop the JK of at Xtreme in two weeks for its AiROCK makeover :yup:

Andy

[brade1]

cool I wonder if that means mine will be hear about then

[RgnNxn08]

Any new work on your lifts? Did they turn out OK. How much?

[captsam54]

Any new work on your lifts? Did they turn out OK. How much?
Yea, and what was the price???

[brade1]

the pric is 5500

[AndyR]

Who told you that price? That is $2300 *more* than the current price for AiROCK.

Andy

[Ghostship]

Who told you that price? That is $2300 *more* than the current price for AiROCK.

Andy

That's because the AiRock is now a complete system, including the OBA system and Air Supply Kit that had to be purchased separately before.

[AndyR]

That's because the AiRock is now a complete system, including the OBA system and Air Supply Kit that had to be purchased separately before.

So...... my spies tell me that this is *quite* the OBA setup and that the price (AiROCK with OBA) is indeed $5500. Supposed to be a much cleaner setup than my previous AiROCK.

Anxiously waiting for my JK to go psssft.

Andy

[brade1]

well i will let you know in about two weeks:crazyeyes:

[AndyR]

Ok, the race is on. 1st post of all up/all down (not including Blakley's prototype) wins bragging rights ;-)

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

Snicker.... Game on... Can we add the Rule "Must be self installed?"

Ron

[AndyR]

Errr....I'll have someone who looks like me do mine - responds to the name of 'Dennis'.

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

LOL... For some reason I hope Dennis doesn't read that one Andy. Who knows what that mysterious Dennis installed button will do. :D

Ron

[AndyR]

I know that button. It directly siphons out my wallet into Jeep parts ;-)

Here she is, all hooked up - just headed do Dennis' place. Next time I see her she'll have grown up some and gone to the Dark Side :-)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3010/img1618smallzl9.jpg

Andy

[MDPJeep]

:ya: :WootJump: :ya:

[PBR_Stitch]

And the Race Begin's. :D

Ron

[brade1]

man i still dont even have my lift:thinking:

[AndyR]

Nobody does yet (other than TomB.) I'm just moving my JK into position :D

Andy

[brade1]

oh coo ljust wondering

[AndyR]

Update......6/12/07

Well the JK hasn't made it to Dennis yet. I dropped it off last week at Ted Miles Jeep in Atascadero. They were going to take a look at why the factory tow harness (the one that connects to an RV) wasn't working. As of yesterday, some DCX engineers were working with them on some relay pack under the hood somewhere.

I'm off on vacation to SC for a few days. Will be back next week.

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

Announcer voice: And Andy's Jeep goes into the pits... Looks like it's some type of electrical problem. While back out on the track Ron is running hard to catch AiROCK in the lead... :D

Ron

[AndyR]

Announcer voice: Hold on, Andy's done an amazing pit stop. While at the pits he found a pic the following parts addressed to him @ Xtreme Rubicons.....

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9130/andysjkairockpictjkdg9.jpg

But Dennis is headed to the Rubicon for the weekend and Andy's 2500 miles from home..........

Will Brown get there before Dennis & Andy......

Andy

[ColoradoJeep06]

That's $5500?

Is that the complete kit?

Mark

[AndyR]

Yes, that's all; minus the shocks which are not in the pic.

Andy

[brade1]

dam wear is mine cant wait any longer:eek2:

[AndyR]

If Steve has your $$ is should be out in the first batch with mine & Ron's.

Andy

[brade1]

hope so he has my cash and im going nuts waiting:eek2:

[PBR_Stitch]

I know when brown is leaving......:D I notice a few parts are actually missing from that picture, besides the shocks.

Ron

[pulman01]

Hey Ron,
I am over at Eglin AFB and wanted to see the Airock setup. Do you mind if I drive over and check it out? I would be glad to offer any help too.

Gary

[PBR_Stitch]

No problem, I'm working a tight schedule, so may be installing things over a few days, then hit the springs one night to finish it off. I'll get with you once I have it all done.

Ron

[histrung]

Anyone who has it on the way, did you receive tracking numbers? Steve sent me a note about shipping it last Friday... haven't received tracking #s or any of the shipment yet.

Thanks.

[AndyR]

I don't think anyone has it on the way yet. Steve was waiting for shocks to arrive next Monday. He said they would ship then. I think they'll start showing up late next week (depending on how fast Brown delivers).

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

Yep, none shipping yet. At least not until Monday.

Ron

[brade1]

man you think i can pay for over night i want mine bad:crazyeyes:

[PBR_Stitch]

Ask Steve about overnighting it. I would love to hear what that shipping would be? OUCH!:eek2:

JK AiROCK - $5500
Overnighting - $1000
Being the first - Priceless :yup:

Ron

[ColoradoJeep06]

A few more months and the suburban twits who thought a JKU would be a nice change from their Chevy Trailblazer will start turning in their JKUs.

AIROCK and an Avenger supercharger. My evil plan is coming together!!!!

MMMMooooHHHAAhhaahhaahhaa.

Mark

What's the max tire size with the kit, and when will more stuff be added to their website about it?

[blkjk85]

Does the $5500 include the install and if not how much for install

[brade1]

what is a jku and what plain are you refering to


and no 5500 dosnot includ install and i havent done it yet so i cant tell you how much it cost

[brade1]

oh and with no change other than the kit you get clearenc for 37 inch meats

[PBR_Stitch]

Does the $5500 include the install and if not how much for install

$5500 is just for the kit. Install should be at least a day's labor on it, considering no snags. I'm planning on 2 days to install, take notes, and pictures.

Ron

[brade1]

I have never lifted a vehicle so i figuer it will take me atlest 2 days if not longer but hell atleast i will know how it goes together in the end right:eek!:

[PBR_Stitch]

I have never lifted a vehicle so i figuer it will take me atlest 2 days if not longer but hell atleast i will know how it goes together in the end right:eek!:

If you have never lifted a vehicle before or installed AiROCK before, you might want to schedule more than 2 days to get it done. I've done lots of kits, and AiROCK's in the past, so I know what I'm getting into. Besides I have a really cool set of tools, jacks and a compressor. The accumulation of many Jeep projects and trips to sears for the weird tool. At least we won't need a 3/4" crows foot and a wobble extension this time.

Ron

[brade1]

cool well i have like 2 weeks befor i need the jeep i would like it every day but if it takes that long then it takes that long:D

[nader]

Announcer voice: Hold on, Andy's done an amazing pit stop. While at the pits he found a pic the following parts addressed to him @ Xtreme Rubicons.....

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9130/andysjkairockpictjkdg9.jpg

But Dennis is headed to the Rubicon for the weekend and Andy's 2500 miles from home..........

Will Brown get there before Dennis & Andy......

Andy

I'm not sure about those frame mounted height sensors. I can see debris getting in the way. Air Lift makes a height sensor that is all electronic now. I wonder if they would sell just the bags? You can buy Air Lift or Air Ride Technologies full air management kit which is similar to what Air Rock offers for about 1300-1500 bux.

[PBR_Stitch]

cool well i have like 2 weeks befor i need the jeep i would like it every day but if it takes that long then it takes that long:D

Better to do it slow and right, then fast and F it up. That gets expensive.

Ron

[ColoradoJeep06]

what is a jku and what plain are you refering to


and no 5500 dosnot includ install and i havent done it yet so i cant tell you how much it cost

I get tired of writing Unlimited. "U" is too short, adding the JK differentiates from the two-door unlimited from last year.

I can stop if it personally offends you ;)

Mark

PS: Why is this thread in "rumors" when it would seem more at home in MOD sub-group.

[brade1]

oh it dont ofend me just didnt get it its cool

[histrung]

anybody's ship yet?

[brade1]

not mine:naw:

[brade1]

:2thumbs: :WootJump: :party: :ya: :ya: :ya: mine is shiping today:yup: :eek2:

[PBR_Stitch]

Does your 210 use flange style, or rotolock fittings. The flange makes it extremely difficult to pipe because of the space. The mounting is a 3 point system, 2 upper brackets, and 1 lower bracket to hold it in place. I prototyped one of the first kits, not any changes to what I have, I used my new flange style compressor, but the rotolock is a better setup.

Ron

[histrung]

:2thumbs: :WootJump: :party: :ya: :ya: :ya: mine is shiping today:yup: :eek2:

Did you get tracking numbers?

[brade1]

no but i talked to them and thay promised it was shiping today

[PBR_Stitch]

Is the connectors squareish and bolted to the top of the compressor? I believe that steve is only selling it as a kit at the moment.

Ron

[PBR_Stitch]

Kit should include, compressor, brackets, manifold, Pressure switch, relief valve, check valve, compressor discharge hose, air oil seperator, auto drain valve and lines, pressure regulator (not sure), mounting bracket for above parts, air tank with air tank mounting bracket, relay, air fittings and air lines.

Ron

[AndyR]

I just got the call, mine shipped today!

Andy

[brade1]

did you get a traking number

[AndyR]

Dennis has it. Steve called him. I don't want it. I'd be checking every 10 minutes to see where it is LOL.

Andy

[brade1]

man i didnt get 1

[brade1]

got 1 this morning woooooo should get most of the stuff by tusday acording to ups the rest still hasent shiped but will soon:D :D :D :D :D

[histrung]

I never got a call, so I called today. I was told I was #2 on the second list... which is waiting for some parts that are out to annodizing -- expected to receive on Tuesday, and they'll be shipping the second list of folks next Wednesday/Thursday.

You lucky suckers who made the first list... :)

[AndyR]

Here she is, down on 37s w/5.13s - a little sawzall work was needed on the front fender :-)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2519/pvjeep37ssmallew4.jpg

Andy

[brade1]

yours is done u luck man hope mine gets here asap

[brade1]

how dose it ride have you run it yet more pics please

[AndyR]

It's being done by Xtreme Rubicons, which is a 3.5 hr drive from where I live.
I won't get to drive it until probably next Friday or Saturday (depending on my work schedule).

Dennis sent me the pic while I was at work today. He still has a bunch of work to do on it, so hopefully he'll send more pics next week.

Andy

[oskee6]

I'm assuming that's all down? Those things are positively STUFFED in there!

[AndyR]

Even with 37s, the all down height will be only 1.5" higher than stock.

Andy

[-=Gar=-]

Is the shop (Xtreme Rubicons) that is installing your kit in N. California? (Brentwood, CA) And how much are the charging to install it? Do they also change out the upper & lower control arms? Any steering mods?

Thanks,
Gar

[PBR_Stitch]

The AiROCK does not require upper or lower arm change outs, nor any steering mods other than an alignment.

Dennis was in Oceano last time I knew.

Ron

[AndyR]

As per Ron, Dennis is in Oceano/Pismo/Grover Beach - definately Mid-CA. I have no idea how much he's charging. I've heard that the kit is somewhere between a 6 to 10 hr install, but as only Steve @ ORO has really done an install we'll have to wait and see how long Dennis takes.

Andy

PS I've heard that AiROCK really requires a cage, corners, sliders and new front & rear bumpers LOL

[PBR_Stitch]

You forgot tires and WE beadlocks... of course a whole slew of minor parts.

Ron

[AndyR]

You forgot tires and WE beadlocks... of course a whole slew of minor parts.

Ron

Yeah, I just ordered one of those 'minor parts' - Kilby's muffler skid :D

Andy

[brade1]

andy you get to see it yet

[AndyR]

andy you get to see it yet

No, not 'til Friday at the earliest (if I can wrangle a day off work). I did tell Dennis to take a sawzall to the front fender ears :eek2:

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

JK AiROCK isn't a rumor anymore.

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04781.JPG
This is part of what is sitting in my garage... only 3 boxes still to be delivered....

Ron :eek2:

[AndyR]

Tis' true....

My Kit:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5899/wheels003pj4.jpg

JK being prepped:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5600/wheels004fj3.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/658/wheels005hr9.jpg

[brade1]

I have most of mine now only need shocks and the air tank

[PBR_Stitch]

Nothing better than a complete AiROCK kit with no instructions... Heaven....

Ron

[AndyR]

Nothing better than a complete AiROCK kit with no instructions... Heaven....

Ron

It's what real men are built for. Steve should have shipped them with the RE instructions from two years ago :D

Andy

[AndyR]

More goodies:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4749/wheels006smallkt0.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3701/wheels007smallmb6.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7756/wheels008smallri7.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7991/wheels009smalliv8.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6541/wheels011smallfn2.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/222/wheels012smalltk0.jpg

Andy

[AndyR]

I'm headed down to Dennis' shop this morning with camera in bag.

Andy

[brade1]

well how was the trip

[AndyR]

Well apart from not being able to upload pics to imageshack (for some reason), we're doing good.

Got the:
Kilby gas tank skid done
Mopar swaybar disconnect skid done
Skidrow oilpan/trannie skid done
Bestop tire carrier done (with 2m and CB antennas)
and......

sawzall'd about 12" off each side of the front bumper.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4482/jkairock028vn0.jpg

Andy

[ColoradoJeep06]

How vulnerable is that airtank, and more important the fittings on the ends?

Mark

[AndyR]

How vulnerable is that airtank, and more important the fittings on the ends?

Mark

Well...if somthing gets up there, its going to also wipe out the emissions pack which is rearward of the tank. Is effectively in the same position as it was on my '04 Rubi. So I guess I'm not worried.

When I do the new muffler, I'll put the muffler where the air tank is and put the tank where the muffler currently is (protected by the Kilby muffler skid).

Andy

[AndyR]

Ok, first off, a huge thankyou goes to Steve at ORO for overnighting the shocks to us - we owe you one.
Here's the final 'all-up' shot before hooking the JK up to my tow rig and heading home - note the grin on Dennis' face :wink:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2341/img2027smallhg2.jpg

And here's a final one for today - taken while calibrating the system:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3701/img2025smallhn5.jpg

Andy

[-=Gar=-]

Very cool!

[brade1]

sweet looks great hows it ride

[AndyR]

sweet looks great hows it ride

Like a red neck Porsche - Dennis threw in into some slaloms, which had me grabbing for the Oh Sh*t bar, but the thing just stuck to the pavement, and not a peep from the ESC. I'm running 25psi in the 37s, and the sidewalls are still hard - it should soften up more after 4 days of trails @ 9 psi :D

Andy

[brade1]

sweet cant wait to get mine done

[Military Jeeper]

AndyR, after all was said and done what did you pay for everything needed to make the AiRock operational.

[AndyR]

AndyR, after all was said and done what did you pay for everything needed to make the AiRock operational.

$5500 for the AiROCK kit + Labor + 17" Walker-Evans Beadlocks with 37" MTRs (approx $4000 with mount/balance)
So call it an even $10K + labor.

I think the bill had 10hrs of labor (but I had Dennis tweek some other stuff while he was under there - 3 skids, tow brackets, tire carrier etc). I don't think he charged me for sawzall'ing off my bumper :hmm:

I'd expect the labor charges to drop once the installers become familiar with this kit.

Andy

[Military Jeeper]

AndyR,

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm interested in how you like the ride at all the way down, and all the way up? I was just pitching this to my wife and her first comment was that it didn't look practical for everyday driving..........however I'd like to have some ammunition. She fully supports my Jeep habit, but I'd like for her to feel comfortable driving it.

[ColoradoJeep06]

AndyR,

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm interested in how you like the ride at all the way down, and all the way up? I was just pitching this to my wife and her first comment was that it didn't look practical for everyday driving..........however I'd like to have some ammunition. She fully supports my Jeep habit, but I'd like for her to feel comfortable driving it.

That would be a big sell for me too. Wife hears Air suspension, she thinks Hoopdee. If I can present as a way to get thru more stuff and make it easier to get in, that might sell it.

Mark

[-=Gar=-]

I never did understand why a man needs to ask a woman before he spends his money. Seems the woman should be happy with a roof over her head, food on the table, and man to keep her warm at night.

[cab76]

I never did understand why a man needs to ask a woman before he spends his money. Seems the woman should be happy with a roof over her head, food on the table, and man to keep her warm at night.

Where's the caveman smiley when you need it?

[Military Jeeper]

I never did understand why a man needs to ask a woman before he spends his money. Seems the woman should be happy with a roof over her head, food on the table, and man to keep her warm at night.

It's a matter of respect. Before I go and spend $10,000 on Jeep toys I want to make sure it's going to be exactly what I'm looking for so that I didn't just waste $10k that my wife and I could have used on a vacation, an investment or something that she may have wanted. I don't ask my wife if I can buy something, however I do discuss expensive purchases with her out of respect. Hope this view point helps you see where some of us married couples come from. Aloha, Jason

[RedRockJK]

Where's the caveman smiley when you need it?

Not quite a smiley.

http://www.nrm.org.uk/exhibitions/photo/largeimages/cdyn16758.jpg
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[brade1]

It's a matter of respect. Before I go and spend $10,000 on Jeep toys I want to make sure it's going to be exactly what I'm looking for so that I didn't just waste $10k that my wife and I could have used on a vacation, an investment or something that she may have wanted. I don't ask my wife if I can buy something, however I do discuss expensive purchases with her out of respect. Hope this view point helps you see where some of us married couples come from. Aloha, Jason

X2 their is a big diffrenc between saying can I buy this and hey babe I plain on getting this it aint cheep but deffinantly worth it.
I know wear your coming from.

[PBR_Stitch]

My wife is the finance coordinator for the college, so justifying spending $5500 for AiROCK along with $3000 for rims and tires was a little difficult, but I managed to cover half of that with selling stuff off of the old TJ. Oh and buying her a new Honda didn't hurt.. :D

Ron

[AndyR]

AndyR,

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm interested in how you like the ride at all the way down, and all the way up? I was just pitching this to my wife and her first comment was that it didn't look practical for everyday driving..........however I'd like to have some ammunition. She fully supports my Jeep habit, but I'd like for her to feel comfortable driving it.

You don't ride it all down or all up. All down is for getting in/out of the Jeep, All up is used for getting of a high center, or maintanance.

For daily driving I keep it at about 40% of travel and off-road about 60%. This gives a good compromise between compression and extention shock travel.

As for the ride, there's nothing quite like it in a Jeep.

Don't like off camber situations...? tilt the jeep into the sidehill and move on.
Trouble climbing a hill, nose the jeep down to move weight over the front axle for better traction - the opposite applies going down the really steep stuff.

And.....yes, there's always the AiROCK dance :rotflmao1:

Andy

[-=Gar=-]

Redrock,
Nice one! You see how appreciative cave girl is for having a man to save her from the wild beast that was about to destroy her? Had he not been there, she would have been food. He is probably dragging her to his new Jeep, so they can escape danger more quickly. Then he would not have to pull her hair. :rotflmao1:

Brade1 wrote:
to be exactly what I'm looking for so that I didn't just waste $10k that my wife and I could have used on a vacation, an investment or something that she may have wanted

I see your point. Respect is always good, but woman need love more then respect. Why spend $10,000 on accessories if it’s all you got? Doesn’t sound like a wise decision to me. If I read what you have written correctly, it sounds like you want permission to spend 10k on something you already can not afford. (That is if it would take away from a family vacation, an investment, or something to please your wife.)

What you may fail to realize is most women want their husbands to be happy; they may say go ahead, but inside they are thinking "how can he spend 10k on a his Jeep, and not want to take me on a vacation instead."

They also want to see their husband making wise decisions and investments. It helps them feel secure. When we have to talk them into spending a large portion of what we make on something we do not need, or easily afford, it may cause them to feel insecure.

If $10,000 is all you have left, then spending it on accessories for a Jeep is not going to be good for the relationship in the long run. If on the other hand 10k is to you, like 100 bucks is to most folks, then my question is the same; why ask?

But it sounds like 10k is a major portion of what you may have saved. If it is, it may not be wise to spend it on the Jeep. -If one is not already happy with what he has, buying more will not make him anymore happy, just broke.

Cheers

[Military Jeeper]

$10k is not a lot to us, my wife makes over 6 figures a year but irregardless, it still comes down to respect and asking her what she thinks. To each their own, I prefer to talk to my wife before making large purchases. That's my choice, it doesnt' have to be yours or anyone elses. Aloha, Jason

[AndyR]

And.... my wife bought the first Jeep in the household - and had the first lift, so she's got senority LOL

Andy

[-=Gar=-]

LOL guys, to each his own. Enjoy your toys! :cool:

[MDPJeep]

It's a matter of respect. Before I go and spend $10,000 on Jeep toys I want to make sure it's going to be exactly what I'm looking for so that I didn't just waste $10k that my wife and I could have used on a vacation, an investment or something that she may have wanted. I don't ask my wife if I can buy something, however I do discuss expensive purchases with her out of respect. Hope this view point helps you see where some of us married couples come from. Aloha, Jason



:yup:


Couldn't agree with you more!!! :thumbsup:

[histrung]

OK... I should have 'received' it last week if they shipped for the second time like I was told, however, I called this week and was told it would ship today... still no tracking numbers.

Anyone else receive theirs? I'd hate to be a pest and call every other day, but gees, originally told end of May to get me to prepay, and then told there were some delays, and it'd ship June 8th, and now, been told two additional ship dates... I'm I the only one who is still waiting, or know what the delay is other than waiting to get parts back from annodizing for the last two times?

[PBR_Stitch]

I do know that the shocks didn't get there until Thursday of last week and they showed up with incorrect parts. I think that was the last hold up, other than them going back and rechecking a few parts that we discovered during installing ours (mine and andy's). Still no instructions to do the install with, but that's in progress.

Ron

[PBR_Stitch]

Figured I would put up some pictures here.

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04916.jpg

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04917.jpg

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04918.jpg

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04919.jpg

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04920.jpg
All Up!

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Just_Stuff/Ron/DSC04921.jpg
All Down!

Still working out a few items and taking notes.

Ron

[AndyR]

Yeah! another JK AiROCK lives - we now have 3 confirmed as built.

Andy

[Robar]

Can you make it hop? You know like the low riders? :rotflmao1:

Looks great.

[AndyR]

Can you make it hop? You know like the low riders? :rotflmao1:

Looks great.


Nope, but if you get enough AiROCK'd jeeps in a line you can do a wave :D

Andy

[PBR_Stitch]

Low riders use larger air soleniods and bleed valves along with higher pressure. I'll try to get my neighbor to do some all up all down shots, his egress height is really low.... :eek2:

Ron

[-=Gar=-]

If someone stabs your air bags, will you still be able to get down the road with out any major rubbing?

[AndyR]

Yes, because the shocks incorporate the bumpstops.

Andy

[SabrToothSqrl]

now that's a funny question... i think more likely

what would happen if one burst / broke... but I guess in some places stab is a possibility...

if the vehicle was resting on the bump stops... it would be a LOW rider ;)

if i pulled the springs on mine, it would sit 1" above the tires...

[PBR_Stitch]

All down is nearly on the bumpstops, I can drive with zero air in the bags, so if someone stabbed all of them I could still drive it home, would be a little bumpy, but doable. I did blow an air line (my fault), at 70mph on the freeway (major reconstruction after Ivan, so it's tore up bad) for the passenger front. The drivers front, and passenger rear inflated more to compensate for the blown line. You could hear it hissing air, but I still drove it for another 20 minutes.

Ron

[-=Gar=-]

Cool, thanks.

[HatchetMan]

so if theres 3 on here i dont suppose anyone could get me some shots of how the comperssor is mounted could they?
x2
and is the stubby bumper required for 37's and not for 35's?
would auto w/ overdrive work well with 37's and 5.13's or just wait for 5.38 gears?
great work btw, can't wait to win the lottery :yup:

[kryptos1]

Hope this question has not been asked already.

I have a tow package and camper trailer which bogs down the Jeep big time, would this type of system allow for higher towing capacity?

[PBR_Stitch]

Towing Capacity is rated on a combinations of things, size of vehicle, weight of vehicle, axle size, engine, but most importantly ability to stop. So if max tow capacity is 3500, the air bags will not change that max, they will reduce the amount of rear squat due to loading, but that's all. It's still recommended to not exceed the max tongue weight.

Ron

[histrung]

Installed mine this weekend! Woohoo! This thing is friggin' awesome!

Some interesting things I didn't realize until after I got it running... when shifting from left to right, or raising front/back & vice versa, it's pretty quick... I think this is because the air is shifting from one set of bags to the next. Also, the all down is much more quick than I anticipated.

Also, since I had the CoolTech exhaust, I couldn't locate the tank in the default location. So, since the default jack is no longer useful, I pulled it out, cut off the brackets off the tank provided, pryed up the cubby hole metal up on one side a tad, and the tank slid it like it was designed for it.

John

[AndyR]

Cool, now we need pics :D

Just make sure you run those airlines as far away from the cats as possible. The two on the drivers side generate a ton of heat.

Andy

[Military Jeeper]

Also, since I had the CoolTech exhaust, I couldn't locate the tank in the default location. So, since the default jack is no longer useful, I pulled it out, cut off the brackets off the tank provided, pryed up the cubby hole metal up on one side a tad, and the tank slid it like it was designed for it.

:worthless:

[brade1]

mine has a date with the lift dr on the 25th so it should be up and running in no time

[histrung]

Here's some pics of the air tank location, as well as some issues I had to deal with since I had the CoolTech exhaust...

One thing I forgot to mention... much credit to PBR_Stitch for providing many tips/tricks and his current rough draft of the write-up of his install. I would not have been able to complete the install this last weekend without his current write-up since the installation instructions are not completed yet by ORO.

So, this is the view of the tank in the furthest rear compartment where the jack used to be. The tape was just a precautionary measure since the tank was right up against it until I bent the metal up a tad:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb240/histrungpun/AirTank1.jpg

This is the view from inside on the air lines going out:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb240/histrungpun/AirTank2.jpg

Here's what it looks like underneath:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb240/histrungpun/AirTank-below.jpg

For the CoolTech exhaust, I had to twist it from the normal position so that it cleared the now lowered rear sway bar. You can see the sway bar drop bar up on the left:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb240/histrungpun/RearSway.jpg

Of course, as a result of twisting the exhaust end, I had to bend the tip so that it wouldn't rest against the frame. And yes, this is completely pushed forward, even with a 3/8" cut off the end to give it more room to slide against the exhaust pipe:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb240/histrungpun/ExhaustEnd.jpg

I have a few more pics I'll post a little later this week when I get some more taken. For instance, I ran the airlines in through the body along the drivers side foot rail and out the clutch hole since I have the auto. I did this to avoid the exhaust running down the side.

BTW... did I mention this thing ROCKS!!! I can't stop playing with it, and I'm talking about the lift... :)

Also... ORO's customer support kicks major butt as well. They've been very responsive (outside of getting those darn installation instructions completed and operator's manual updated with the new functions...but I understand... I'd rather have the product and take notes on what I need to do instead of waiting!) :) and have been very helpful every single time I have called!

[PBR_Stitch]

Your Welcome. Hopefully I'll have time to move it from rough draft to published...

Ron

[brade1]

hey can you send me an email on the install instructions to brade1@sbcglobal.net

[brade1]

realy need some help with this cant get it installed without instructions

[PBR_Stitch]

I thought you were having a shop install it? I shot you the write up for the AiROCK.

Ron

[DCMP001]

Anyone Airock'd a 2-door ruby yet?

[PBR_Stitch]

So far I believe they have all been 4 doors. The 2 door really isn't any difference other then you would need to find a different mounting point for the air tank since it won't fit in the same location. I know Steve was a little concerned about the DS angles on the 2 doors, but other than that I can not see any reason that it wouldn't fit. I had the 2 door and prototyped a few parts on it, I know the majority fit perfectly well on both (I didn't have the springs, but they mount pads are the same.)

Ron

[DCMP001]

Thanks for the info. By the way how well is your stock suspension components holding up. Anything bent yet or have any of the bushings failed etc...

[PBR_Stitch]

Nothing harmed so far. I know Andy and Tom's AiROCK'd JK's ran some heavy trails, and other than some installation corrections on the air lines, and a few dang where did that rock come from :eek2: things, no damage to the suspensions.

Ron

[AndyR]

Thanks for the info. By the way how well is your stock suspension components holding up. Anything bent yet or have any of the bushings failed etc...

Other than bending the tie rod, and flattening the steering dampner, the stock stuff is holding up fine.

Andy

[wayoflife]

Okay, this thead that I started way back when has long since moved beyond it being a "rumor" and so I am now having it locked. If you have any questions regarding lift kits, please inquire about them in the Modified Tech Forum.