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Old 09-12-2016, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Riptide9
Am I reading this wrong?

"these radios can be used without a license only on FRS channels 8 through 14"

If using these channels we shouldn't be breaking any laws.
You need a license for GMRS. No test involved, just the license fee.
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Originally Posted by texascodmw3
You need a license for GMRS. No test involved, just the license fee.
Cool, Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Riptide9
Cool, Thanks!
I beleive it comes down to what the manufacturer classifies what the radio is FRS or FRS\GMSR
Old 09-12-2016, 04:18 PM
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Anything FRS is still .5W, GMRS is 5W and you need a license. GMRS users may also communicate with FRS users, and among each other, on the lower 7 channels in the 462 MHz range, with a maximum of 5 watts ERP on those channels.
01 462.5625 FRS 1 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 9 5 W 25 kHz
02 462.5875 FRS 2 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 10 5 W 25 kHz
03 462.6125 FRS 3 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 11 5 W 25 kHz
04 462.6375 FRS 4 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 12 5 W 25 kHz
05 462.6625 FRS 5 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 13 5 W 25 kHz
06 462.6875 FRS 6 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 14 5 W 25 kHz
07 462.7125 FRS 7 500 mW 12.5 kHz GMRS 15 5 W 25 kHz
08 467.5625 FRS 8 500 mW 12.5 kHz
09 467.5875 FRS 9 500 mW 12.5 kHz
10 467.6125 FRS 10 500 mW 12.5 kHz
11 467.6375 FRS 11 500 mW 12.5 kHz
12 467.6625 FRS 12 500 mW 12.5 kHz
13 467.6875 FRS 13 500 mW 12.5 kHz
14 467.7125 FRS 14 500 mW 12.5 kHz
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Originally Posted by Riptide9
Thanks RedSyndrome for that information.

I believe that the OP's angle was very similar to my own use case. I don't have any desire to utilize ham frequencies but like the idea of the more powerful Baofeng Ham radio that can be used on frs/gmrs freqs. I can buy this radio for cheaper than the store bought frs radios and I understand the risk and irresponsibility of just randomly dialing in any freq into it and broadcasting and have no intention of doing so.

Questions:
Is there any legal issue with these being used for frs/gmrs other than there being a limit on transmit power guidelines?
Would you need to be Ham certified for use on FRS/GMRS? If so, Why?

Thanks
Another post mentioned the point that you are not necessarily free to transmit on just any frequency your radio is capable of. CB, for instance, is classified for channelized service. A ham radio is technically not compliant even if you transmit within the power, freq, modulation specs. I don't claim to be a current legal expert in this area, but the FCC restrictions to only use equipment specifically certified for the radio service being utilized has always been firm.

C'mon, take the test. You know ya wanna
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So the constructive feed back is taken and accepted.

For those of you that chose to give insults, screw off. I don't see the need for calling someone a dumb ass or stupid etc. I didn't call the ham guys stupid or geeky!

I'll look into the license. But I'm Honestly not too sure where to start.

I need to get it in the next 3 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Wrangeler X
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I'll look into the license. But I'm Honestly not too sure where to start. ...
Study this book ...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/16259...zmL&ref=plSrch

Set up a free account here and use its practice exams ...

https://hamstudy.org/

Also, search for a class offered by a local club.

And to repeat something written earlier: The test is 100% available for you to read and study. Every question is in that book, and at that website, all in the same multiple choice format as the actual test you'll take. Only the order of the four answers might change (so you won't memorize that this question is answer A, this is D, etc). The book gives lots of background for each question. The website offers a brief summary of why a particular answer is correct.

FYI, radio spectrum is valuable. We can't create more. It isn't mined or harvested. Short of a new understanding of physics, all we have is all we will ever have.

Cell phone companies, TV and commercial broadcast services, businesses, the military, law enforcement, and other government agencies are always clamoring for more. Hams jealously guard what they have because it could so easily be lost by a law passed by a bribed Congress (I call campaign donations what they really are).

In earning your license you'll not only learn this, but you'll also gain a good understanding of just how much trust the government has placed in hams to properly use this treasured resource. And you'll enter an amazing world of technology beyond anything you could otherwise access.
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Originally Posted by Wrangeler X
K running the risk of pissing off the ham guys. I and some of my wheeling partners are adding dual band radios to our rigs. We will use these on road trips and on the trail. I don't have a ham license and don't intend to get one. I'm not looking to do "HAM" communication stuff. Just want better comms for my wheeling trips. We will be on obscure unused channels. Curious what sort of feedback this sparks.
I don't have a problem steering someone in the right direction if they want to get a HAM license but you basically said you don't want a license and your going to break a federal law anyways. You say your " not looking to do HAM communication stuff" but this is exactly what your doing. The second you transmit your doing "HAM" stuff and breaking a federal law if you don't have a license. How did you expect everyone to react?
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So for anyone wanting to use one of these radios for GMRS/FRS only use here is a link for info and licensing (FYI GMRS $70):

https://www.fcc.gov/general/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs

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Originally Posted by Riptide9
So for anyone wanting to use one of these radios for GMRS/FRS only use here is a link for info and licensing (FYI GMRS $70):

https://www.fcc.gov/general/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs
Like I said before, you would be better off to just take the HAM test for 15.00 and it's good for 10yrs


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