Chuck-The-Ripper

H4 upgrades were a thing like 3-5 years ago. There's way too many options out there now that are light-years better. I fell for the h4 hype back in the day and it was a huge disappointment.

jsukey

I agree that it doesn't put out as much light as an HID projector conversion. I had DC Customs do an HID projector headlight and foglight conversion, with angel and demon eyes for my Jeep SRT8. I spent close to 2k on them. Couldn't be happier with them! However, the OP said he didn't want to spend too much money on them. I noticed a big improvement with the IPF kit, over stock. I'm not saying that it's like a sun shining out in front of me, but they get me down the road extremely well. I'm sure a used pair could be picked up for super cheap.

Mark Doiron

I have been very pleased with the IPF kit. Here is how I describe them: If you expect the lights to work like most OEM headlights on new vehicle models, the IPFs are a great solution. If you think most OEM headlights are unsatisfactory, then spend your money elsewhere.

But, a consideration: Don't buy $600 headlights then kit your Jeep with a bunch of Chinese-made junk. And don't spend so much on headlights that you can't afford an occasional Jeep adventure. The other, better solutions aren't ***that*** much better. The old adage that you spend twice as much for a ten percent improvement isn't far off.

Chuck-The-Ripper

Almost any of the approximately $150 led headlights on Amazon are 100x better than the ipfs were in my jeep.

Mark Doiron

A hundred times "better"? Not sure how or what is being measured. But, seriously, they won't freeze up in wintry weather? The plastic lens is as durable as the glass lens?

There is more to a headlight than pure, raw light output. Which begs the issue of, how much light is enough. And I hedged that issue right up front in my prior post. If someone wants more light than a typical OEM headlight on most models, look elsewhere than IPFs.

SH0RTBUS

I agree with you regarding the IPF's. Only real difference I noticed was a cooler color of light with a very marginal increase in actual brightness.

Redsand

Anybody else have these? After seeing this looked them up and they look not bad for price... I live in ct so we see a fair amount of snow will they be fine? Any other options for less the 175-200?

4x4TruckLEDs.com

Have you guys looked into the H13 LED Conversion Kits? They are very popular in the Jeep community. I don't spend a lot of time here so you guys may not be familiar with us...

We offer an LED Conversion Kit that is so far (that we've seen) the best on the market (if something better comes along, we'll look into that).

The H13 bulbs (which is what your JK's use) have 4 LED's on them. We don't light up all 4 like most companies. We use a beam director hood over one set of LED's so that they help line them up where they need to be. Our LED's also fire out the sides and you can rotate the base fro the bulb, to really give you a cut-off.

Now these won't have a cut-off like a projection system but let me tell you... compared to the stock bulbs it's like night and day. It REALLY lights things up on the road AND does not blind oncoming drivers. I hate driving in front of someone or approaching a guy who put in cheap $80 LED's he got on Amazon that don't have a fan (because he was CONCERNED with getting water/mud in the fan).

We did some torture tests where we put the LED's into water, mud and even ice. They worked flawlessly and still work to this day. While in ice the fan could not spin naturally but once it melted, the fan spun right back up. So if you ever get something STUCK in the fan, it'll keep working when the jam is freed backup.

I know some of you took advantage of this but head over to the VENDOR section. We have a special 20% promo code as an "Amazon introduction"

A true projection system is always your best upgrade but if you don't want to spend $500+ on new housings, these are well worth their weight in gold.

Monster696

Been looking at headlight options for quite a while. LEDs are out because they don't heat up enough to melt off snow that would accumulate on a snow day

Looked at HID from the retro fit source and though looks like awesome light it also looks like a lot of work and if it's not done right it could be a big disappointment.

Appearently you have to buy the bulbs, ballast, shroud, projector from them and a housing somewhere else

Then Hack the housing up to fit projector , seal it with tape and goop hoping you installed it straight then squeeze it into place. After that is done. What happens after 2-3 years when the bulbs burn out. Does one have to pull it all apart and do it again?

Would like to go the HID route but seems like a lot could go wrong. Can anyone shed light on this?

4x4TruckLEDs.com

Just go with LED. The heat difference is VERY minimal when it comes to snow melting. The kits we've been selling have been very popular here in the states and Canada. HID burn out quicker, have to be babied and after time they will change color since it's a gas based system.