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Maybe we can just lock the forum altogether. No since in anybody posting since only those who have proclaimed themselves smarter than anyone else should post. Maybe the smartest person on the forum, again self proclaimed, can just tell everyone else how to build a jeep and we can all have the exact same perfect jeep. Or maybe a forum is where people can share their opinions, and experiences as well as potentially their expertise. It's just jeeps not rocket science lets not make it into more than it is.
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Last edited by JKMARINE; 01-16-2015 at 01:26 PM.
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Jkmarine,
I get what you're saying - there's a trade off for mods such as lifts, tires,etc. you're saying that wider tires and more back space are not the cure for a bigger lift which I get. Even if you don't lift your jeep but want to make it capable and want to run bigger tires, less offset is a must. If the OP is wanting to run 35's and no lift ( my assumption) then it will require running spacers or less offset wheels - it's not a product is the lift, it's a product of running bigger tires to make a stock rig more capable. Your comment about running a lift and requiring a wider track isn't completely accurate.
What is your recommendation?
Please note - this is not meant as an attack :-)
I get what you're saying - there's a trade off for mods such as lifts, tires,etc. you're saying that wider tires and more back space are not the cure for a bigger lift which I get. Even if you don't lift your jeep but want to make it capable and want to run bigger tires, less offset is a must. If the OP is wanting to run 35's and no lift ( my assumption) then it will require running spacers or less offset wheels - it's not a product is the lift, it's a product of running bigger tires to make a stock rig more capable. Your comment about running a lift and requiring a wider track isn't completely accurate.
What is your recommendation?
Please note - this is not meant as an attack :-)
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Nobody has proclaimed to the smartest person on here. I would like to meet that person. Maybe I can learn something from them. It is just Jeeps but there is a science behind it. If someone on here said 2+2=5, pretty soon everyone on here would be posting that as fact. That's just the way it is. I guess you like it that way. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
But if Eddie said it, then we know it's true.
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Jkmarine, I get what you're saying - there's a trade off for mods such as lifts, tires,etc. you're saying that wider tires and more back space are not the cure for a bigger lift which I get. Even if you don't lift your jeep and want to run bigger tires, less offset is a must. If the OP is wanting to run 35's and no lift ( my assumption) then it will require running spacers or less offset wheels - it's not a product is the lift, it's a product of running bigger tires to make a stock rig more capable. Your comment about running a lift and requiring a wider track isn't completely accurate. What is your recommendation? Please note - this is not meant as an attack :-)
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I feel like we're saying the same thing - only you're saying it with more detail and facts :-)
As you increase tire height, you have to decrease backspace to maintain proper scrub radius also resulting in a wider track adding more stability. It has to be the proper ratio (or balance) in order not to have too much of a positive or negative scrub correct?
Yes - this adds stress to an already week stock bj as well as other components but that goes without saying. Nobody should expect to be able to add bigger tires without trade-off of worn parts that will likely need to be upgraded sooner than if left stock. We do it to increase offroad performance right? Short of replacing the entire axle as you stated, this is what we have to do.
As you increase tire height, you have to decrease backspace to maintain proper scrub radius also resulting in a wider track adding more stability. It has to be the proper ratio (or balance) in order not to have too much of a positive or negative scrub correct?
Yes - this adds stress to an already week stock bj as well as other components but that goes without saying. Nobody should expect to be able to add bigger tires without trade-off of worn parts that will likely need to be upgraded sooner than if left stock. We do it to increase offroad performance right? Short of replacing the entire axle as you stated, this is what we have to do.