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Wrangler the 6th most unsafe vehicle of 2015 according to these idiots

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Old 09-09-2015, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lkjk
I didn't mention the b pillar as being weak, because that's the beefiest one. I understand the legality of the stickers, I also understand that because of that they aren't actually designed with safety in mind.

# of fatalities, or percentages, only means exactly that. There could be a million reasons that's the case, without finding out why, which is nearly impossible without a controlled test, a lot of stats are useless.

crash tests where they put them through the paces with dummies and sensors are measuring the actual force with simulated crashes that are nearly identical for the vehicles in each class, so I don't know what more you want...to uncover a conspiracy against jeeps?

Its just funny so many people get so sensitive when anything bad about jeeps is mentioned.
Nah. There's some really crappy things about Jeeps that embarrass the apologists too. They're not perfect vehicles.

The editor is pandering to the "Johnny Come-Lately" blob-driving hipsters who need to feel better about having bought a car like the Prius, and it's people like this that are single-handedly destroying the world. That, and bandwagon fetishes like skinny jeans for men, and fedoras. This is why we can't have fun things, or take risks, without supposedly "ruining it for everyone", else we risk losing our participation trophies.

I'm just glad there's still a sect of people that see right through this bullshit.

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Old 09-11-2015, 11:57 AM
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Best evidence I have seen was on Fox news last week. Head on collision between a spots car and a jku on the highway. Car was going over 110 mph when it hit the jeep. The engine of the sports car was found 40 yards away, the passenger in critical condition and they were still looking for the driver as he was ejected from the car when it was ripped apart. The two passengers of the jeep walked away.
Old 09-11-2015, 07:11 PM
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I've been t-boned on the driver's side of an Unlimited at a fairly low speed, and I can tell you it's not much fun. It's probably not too bad if you get hit by a small car, but I was hit by a full-size Ram truck and it rang my bell pretty hard. When I replaced the Jeep months later, I bought one with side airbags, and I'll never own another one without them.
Old 09-12-2015, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lkjk
The doors and top aren't designed with any safey in mind - I have stickers from the factory that say something like "the doors and top of this vehicle are not intended to keep you inside the vehicle in the event of an accident". .
I doubt there is a sticker that states that.
Old 09-12-2015, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeJKUR

I doubt there is a sticker that states that.
There is on my Jeep. If you have a hard top, look up at it from the driver's seat.

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Old 09-12-2015, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
There is on my Jeep. If you have a hard top, look up at it from the driver's seat.

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Very interesting. That is not on my 2014. In my owners manual it state's:

Do not drive your vehicle on public roads with the doors removed as you will lose the protection that they can provide. This procedure is furnished for use during off-road operation only.
Old 09-12-2015, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeJKUR
I doubt there is a sticker that states that.
Sure there is... And mine's a hardtop with full doors.
Old 09-12-2015, 05:19 PM
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Not sure where they got their data from.... IIHS rates ranger marginal on side impact testing and Good in small and moderate overlap testing. The vehicle they tested for side impact testing was not equipped with side impact airbags. Seems decent to me.
Old 09-14-2015, 08:18 AM
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obviously this is more handling than safety, if you care to distinguish the difference. Needless to say I have no faith in jeep or chrysler engineers. For anything other that rock crawling off road I would never buy anything mopar, ever.


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Old 09-14-2015, 09:42 AM
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My biggest gripe with safety is not that the JK and JKU is not as safe as a Subaru or Volvo because it is purpose-built.

My issue is that since the JK and JKU are relatively purpose-built, they should have a solid safety cage and restraints, not a half-asses "sport cage" or whatever FCA calls their excuse for a roll cage.


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