37s questions
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JK Jedi
Screw 37's and get 42's you will want them anyway. I am sure you can find someone to tell you how driving around on 42's and 3.21 gears is just fine. Just don't use more then 4th gear and only go in a straight line. Don't worry about the clutch, ball joints, and driveshafts because they are just wear items anyway.
#12
So I was about to buy my 35s when I found a deal and a 37 is only $15 more a tire. What would I need to run these on a 2.5 lift? Would I need a larger lift? Also as far as power goes, I have a 3.6 with the 6speed in my 2 door and 3.73 gears? What would I need to re gear to or is it necessary? Also how would this effect power, mileage etc? Really thinking the 37 would be the way to go if I can figure it all out, thanks!
Also I have the smittybilt flares on
Also I have the smittybilt flares on
Ideally beefier front axle housing and C's and get it with the new gears and axle shafts installed
stronger axle shafts front and back
trim pinch seam
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So I was about to buy my 35s when I found a deal and a 37 is only $15 more a tire. What would I need to run these on a 2.5 lift? Would I need a larger lift? Also as far as power goes, I have a 3.6 with the 6speed in my 2 door and 3.73 gears? What would I need to re gear to or is it necessary? Also how would this effect power, mileage etc? Really thinking the 37 would be the way to go if I can figure it all out, thanks! Also I have the smittybilt flares on
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I think I may stick to the 35s. Even with the 35s I planned on beefing up the Dana 30 in the front for sure. I was going to get the truss and gussets for it. Should I go ahead and sleeve it too? I know it can handle the wheeling I do now but I keep getting into rougher stuff and I know with 35s I'm going to keep pushing it so I'm thinking that for the $500 or so to beef it up it should hold up for what I get in to. I don't do any major rock climbing out here. And as long as it holds up strong (knock on wood) when the day comes that I want to buy built 44s and run 37s, I should be able to get a decent resale on the built up 30. Does anyone have any experience with lockers in the 30 and/or any build list that they may have done to theirs. Also if anyone has in misc axle junk or setups laying around I may be on the market Thanks for the help guys!
#15
JK Super Freak
People will tell you what you want to here. Truth? I ran 3.73s on that setup and it sucked. 37s would really suck. Not to mention the stress it would put on your drivetrain. Your clutch will especially feel the love. You obviously don't have a rubicon, so anything offroad other than trails will be terrible.
Do it right or don't do it. Also, that front axle of yours is not designed to run a tire that large. Following that comment will be people saying they did and it works. Ironically, one of the biggest advocates of D30 and 37s on another forum just blew up his front ring and pinion this week while idling over a rock. You'll need to truss the housing if you don't want a bent axle. Although, you should do that with 35s too.
Do it right or don't do it. Also, that front axle of yours is not designed to run a tire that large. Following that comment will be people saying they did and it works. Ironically, one of the biggest advocates of D30 and 37s on another forum just blew up his front ring and pinion this week while idling over a rock. You'll need to truss the housing if you don't want a bent axle. Although, you should do that with 35s too.
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JK Enthusiast
I don't think anyone is really trying to tell someone what they want to hear. I think what they are saying is yes it may work for. While but don't be surprised if you experience some damage alone the way and be prepared for some gears or whatever. I am not hardcore as some but I am not into the competition cuts and bodies that looked like chewed up bubble gum. I like to have a good time and drive it home. I had a TJ for 13 years D35 (Super35) and a D30 with 4.88's and 37's for 10 of the 13 years and had a blast. Never an issue with the 30. I did go thru a couple ring gears in the 35 but it's to be expected down the line. For $15 more a tire for something I would get in the long run anyway I would just do it and replace shit as I needed. Most of us began the Jeep addiction with a cheap lift and tires too big to allow the transmission to be most effective. I would not waste a dime on a D30 sleeving and gussets. A D30 anyway you look at it really ain't worth a bucket of piss in the first place. I recall back in the day when you had to have a D44 and then it was an 8.8 and then a D60 (RJ's were the shit and now I hear people say those suck) and then a 14 bolt and now D70's or 80's. WTF! Put whatever tires you want on there and drive it until it breaks, if it breaks and then upgrade. Just drive it like you want to make it home. Don't be a pussy while wheeling, have fun but don't be surprised if along the way you get some damage that requires remedie$. Do the tires and get some gears. I assume Marine in NC you are at Lejeune? There is a guy in Conway SC that does ring and pinion swaps pretty cheap. Or maybe someone just as cheap closer. There is a guy on here with a Hemi D44's, 5.13's and Toyo 38's that runs the piss out of his. Sorry I am raggin' today and no disrespect to anyone. All the aftermarket manufacturers I would imagine respond more to demand (of structurally stronger and better hit) than that of requirement.
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I don't think anyone is really trying to tell someone what they want to hear. I think what they are saying is yes it may work for. While but don't be surprised if you experience some damage alone the way and be prepared for some gears or whatever. I am not hardcore as some but I am not into the competition cuts and bodies that looked like chewed up bubble gum. I like to have a good time and drive it home. I had a TJ for 13 years D35 (Super35) and a D30 with 4.88's and 37's for 10 of the 13 years and had a blast. Never an issue with the 30. I did go thru a couple ring gears in the 35 but it's to be expected down the line. For $15 more a tire for something I would get in the long run anyway I would just do it and replace shit as I needed. Most of us began the Jeep addiction with a cheap lift and tires too big to allow the transmission to be most effective. I would not waste a dime on a D30 sleeving and gussets. A D30 anyway you look at it really ain't worth a bucket of piss in the first place. I recall back in the day when you had to have a D44 and then it was an 8.8 and then a D60 (RJ's were the shit and now I hear people say those suck) and then a 14 bolt and now D70's or 80's. WTF! Put whatever tires you want on there and drive it until it breaks, if it breaks and then upgrade. Just drive it like you want to make it home. Don't be a pussy while wheeling, have fun but don't be surprised if along the way you get some damage that requires remedie$. Do the tires and get some gears. I assume Marine in NC you are at Lejeune? There is a guy in Conway SC that does ring and pinion swaps pretty cheap. Or maybe someone just as cheap closer. There is a guy on here with a Hemi D44's, 5.13's and Toyo 38's that runs the piss out of his. Sorry I am raggin' today and no disrespect to anyone. All the aftermarket manufacturers I would imagine respond more to demand (of structurally stronger and better hit) than that of requirement.
Lol I like you! Wheel it till it breaks! Dana 35 and 37s bolt move but looks like you proved some people it's possible! Personally if you know how to wheel you should just be crawling over everything not just being light on the peddle but knowing when and how much power is needed!
Personally I would keep stock axles shafts in the d30. Easier to swap a shaft then r&p.
#18
I got new tires today and as bad as I wanted the 37's I went with 35's. In a M/T the weight of the tire is already astronomical and I have heard of some mild balancing issues when you start to get into this size range. Combine that with the D30 front axle and this is my daily I just couldn't get my head around dealing with the 37's. They would have looked amazing but just not practical for my usage.
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I think I may stick to the 35s. Even with the 35s I planned on beefing up the Dana 30 in the front for sure. I was going to get the truss and gussets for it. Should I go ahead and sleeve it too? I know it can handle the wheeling I do now but I keep getting into rougher stuff and I know with 35s I'm going to keep pushing it so I'm thinking that for the $500 or so to beef it up it should hold up for what I get in to. I don't do any major rock climbing out here. And as long as it holds up strong (knock on wood) when the day comes that I want to buy built 44s and run 37s, I should be able to get a decent resale on the built up 30.
Does anyone have any experience with lockers in the 30 and/or any build list that they may have done to theirs.
Also if anyone has in misc axle junk or setups laying around I may be on the market
Thanks for the help guys!
Does anyone have any experience with lockers in the 30 and/or any build list that they may have done to theirs.
Also if anyone has in misc axle junk or setups laying around I may be on the market
Thanks for the help guys!
You're pretty much in the same boat I'm in with the Sahara. I'm running 35's would like to go 37 but I don't see that happening until at least the front axle gets changed out.
In the meantime, gusset your C's, slap in some Teraflex HD ball joints, and put in some Nitro sleeves (or you can go the weld-in sleeve route which btw I happen to have a set of the Teraflex versions laying around if you're interested). Throw an ARB cover or Rancho diff skid on it and you'll be fine especially since you're not doing any rock crawling. Beef up your tie-rod and trackbar at the very least if you haven't done so already.
I wouldn't bother with a front locker for the D30. Most people I know hardly ever engage the front locker unless they're wheeling in heavy snow.
Having said that, I have thought about throwing in an LSD for the front. I just have to really ask myself how realistic it will be that I change the front axle out in a couple of years. Plus I still need to regear as I'm currently on 3.73's which I'm really starting to hate with the 35's so it's probably smarter to do the regear, locker/LSD, with a stronger front axle all at the same time.
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After 7 years I finally swapped out the D30 for a D44J8 .. For me it was cheaper then rebuilding the D30 with gears and locker, etc.
The new D44J8 housing cost about the same as it would cost me to have the D30 housing trussed and gusseted. All the other new parts were on par for both diffs.
The new D44J8 housing cost about the same as it would cost me to have the D30 housing trussed and gusseted. All the other new parts were on par for both diffs.
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