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Severe Engine Power Loss at Altitude?

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Old 02-28-2015, 07:48 AM
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I have a formula somewhere. I'll need to look it up. If I recall correctly, the 3.6 at sea level is 285 HP. at 5500' it is somewhere around 240 hp and at 10,000 it's somewhere around 200. I need to confirm, I calculated this about 2 years ago, memory is a little fuzzy.

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Old 02-28-2015, 07:53 AM
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Found this link for a calculator

http://www.wallaceracing.com/braking-hp.php
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Elevation x .03 x HP @Sea level / 1000 = Hp lost Or Elevation x .00003 x HP @ Sea level = HP Lost The 3.6 loses 47 HP at 5500' And it loses 85 HP at 10000' This is a general conversion that will give close approximates for all engines. Nothing is immune from elevation.

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Originally Posted by Jeepstin12
Elevation x .03 x HP @Sea level / 1000 = Hp lost

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Elevation x .0003 x HP @ Sea level = HP Lost

The 3.6 loses 47 HP at 5500'
And it loses 85 HP at 1000'

This is a general conversion that will give close approximates for all engines. Nothing is immune from elevation.
Your ".0003" in the second formula should be .00003, correct? And the with the 1000', you meant 10,000'?

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Originally Posted by ronjenx
Your ".0003" in the second formula should be .00003, correct? And the with the 1000', you meant 10,000'?
you are correct. I fixed it. I blame fast, single digit typing through an iPad screen saver.
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The thin air above 8,000 feet can have a significant effect on your motor's ability to generate power. Last Summer we took our jeep to Ouray and Silverton, CO. We live at about 200 feet above sea level and regularly travel to areas in the 4-5,000 feet above sea level, without issue. At the time we were still running stock size Jeep tires and when we hit areas like California Pass I noticed a very profound drop in power in our Jeep. So much so I began to question our upcoming tire purchase (we were looking at 35'"s, which everyone here at JKF would be, "just fine" with our 3.73 gear set. Maybe at sea level but if I couldn't adequately turn 32"s at 11,000 feet, 35"s were going to be a problem. Not in a hurry to re-gear, we ended up going with 33"s, which so far, are doing fine but I have yet to get the Jeep up above 11,000 feet like last Summer.
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I was not debating a loss of horsepower at altitude. My drag bike can't pull nearly the dyno numbers around here as it does near sea level. I was just saying when not loaded down, my basically stock (3.6L, 6-speed) JKUR has no problem maintaining the speed limit or greater up any mountain. Which in this area amounts to around 10,000 ft. Now you load that pig down with gear and it's a different story.
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Originally Posted by Rob 12B1P
OP are you talking about pulling grades at 6000 feet or level ground at 6000ft? What size tires are you running and what gears are you running in the diffs? The 3.8 will never throw you back in your seat but you shouldnt be struggling that bad if you are set up correctly.
I'm running stock 3.73s with 33" tires. The terrain is uphill moving up to as high as 9000ft, so a pretty continuous uphill climb, but no extreme grades.
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Originally Posted by Desert Crawler
I was not debating a loss of horsepower at altitude. My drag bike can't pull nearly the dyno numbers around here as it does near sea level. I was just saying when not loaded down, my basically stock (3.6L, 6-speed) JKUR has no problem maintaining the speed limit or greater up any mountain. Which in this area amounts to around 10,000 ft. Now you load that pig down with gear and it's a different story.
A ride into your home of Virginia City was manageable, but some of the Spring Mountains (back down my way) and the Cascades across the border into Cali pose a challenge. I love the way it rolls in my native Maine at sea level, even the 3000 feet around Vegas is fine. But the 205hp motor doesn't seem to be able to cut it for some of the higher altitude excursions I had in mind when I purchased it.
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I am not talking about my daily commute which is a 4,000 ft elevation change. I have been through the sierra's and cascades and have always been able to maintain atleast the speed limit on paved roads. Maybe because I started with 80 more HP then you and have a 6 speed.


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