Easy Rocker Switch Mount Above Rear View???
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In a seriousness, I like to poke around the electrical section a lot more. You see some really creative stuff from time to time. I broke down and ordered an Spod yesterday and I feel like I cheated because I'm an electrician. I know I could've built one fairly easily with some spare materials, but its so much easier to sell out and buy one... Don't judge me...
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JK Junkie
Wait... Why can't I run 40's?! And I dont need 6" of lift to fit 35s?
In a seriousness, I like to poke around the electrical section a lot more. You see some really creative stuff from time to time. I broke down and ordered an Spod yesterday and I feel like I cheated because I'm an electrician. I know I could've built one fairly easily with some spare materials, but its so much easier to sell out and buy one... Don't judge me...
In a seriousness, I like to poke around the electrical section a lot more. You see some really creative stuff from time to time. I broke down and ordered an Spod yesterday and I feel like I cheated because I'm an electrician. I know I could've built one fairly easily with some spare materials, but its so much easier to sell out and buy one... Don't judge me...
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No judgement here, especially since I got an sPod as well. Chalk it up to getting a new Jeep and wanting to wire up a bunch of accessories quickly. Slap, slap, done. But now I found myself looking for electrical projects for the JK. Just wired in a Harley garage door opener last weekend...lol
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Nice Schematic, Very clear and concise. I like that you wired the relay directly to 12v and use the GND to control the relay. A lot of guys think you need to use the positive, but its much better to have less power running though your firewall and safer against shorts. Only downside is switch lighting, but a single smaller gauge 12v line can take care of that. It is funny how electricity is seen as witchcraft and magic to some people.
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Thanks for the help and the quick reply! So If I want to install a panel of back-lit switches is there some reason I shouldn't do this above the Rear view?
I really like the look... But if it is easier to go in front of shifter I will do so.
I'm just not a fan of the A-pillars IMHO.
I really like the look... But if it is easier to go in front of shifter I will do so.
I'm just not a fan of the A-pillars IMHO.
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JK Newbie
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Yes I would like to have green, back-lit switches. Is this difficult to do?
Similar to This?
SPOT LIGHTS (GREEN LED) - CUSTOMROCKERS
Or is it just much easier to go with these?
Rocker Switch, Green - DAY-KU80012
Similar to This?
SPOT LIGHTS (GREEN LED) - CUSTOMROCKERS
Or is it just much easier to go with these?
Rocker Switch, Green - DAY-KU80012
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Thanks for the help and the quick reply! So If I want to install a panel of back-lit switches is there some reason I shouldn't do this above the Rear view?
I really like the look... But if it is easier to go in front of shifter I will do so.
I'm just not a fan of the A-pillars IMHO.
I really like the look... But if it is easier to go in front of shifter I will do so.
I'm just not a fan of the A-pillars IMHO.
Yes I would like to have green, back-lit switches. Is this difficult to do?
Similar to This?
SPOT LIGHTS (GREEN LED) - CUSTOMROCKERS
Or is it just much easier to go with these?
Rocker Switch, Green - DAY-KU80012
Similar to This?
SPOT LIGHTS (GREEN LED) - CUSTOMROCKERS
Or is it just much easier to go with these?
Rocker Switch, Green - DAY-KU80012
With these options, you're going to have to drill into the dash/surface of your jeep unless you get a bezel that holds the switches. Which can be the A pillar (which we ruled out) or the spot in front of the shifter.
How many accessories are you planning on installing? (Lights, CB, compressor, electric lockers, etc.)
Edit:
You should consider your future plans. If you plan on adding more lights/things that connect to your battery, you're going to want to think about an SPOD, or making something similar (supposedly a competitor is making something soon too). It avoids a rat's nest in your engine bay and makes wiring things incredibly easy. It's really nice for people that aren't electrically inclined.
If you're fairly sure you won't be adding much else, there's nothing wrong with drilling into the dash and screwing the switch in there to work the lights.
Last edited by JK505; 01-05-2015 at 12:31 PM.
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JK Jedi Master
As for safety, for lights and such I agree. If there is a short on the ground side (to ground), the device just turns on. If on the positive side, one is depending on the fuse, which ***should*** blow before a fire starts, but isn't guaranteed under certain conceivable high resistance "shorts".
But not all circuits are safe to just turn on as a failure mode. A winch reel in switch, for example, could injure someone, or get the line spooled in, then the motor overheats when it can't turn. In that case, a short on the positive side of the relay coil would seem a safer design consideration.
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JK Junkie
Correct me if I'm wrong, Mark, but the current draw is a factor of the circuit design. The limiting factor in the control circuit is the coil in the relay. If you short the ground, the current coming through will be limited by the coil. If you short the power side, there is no limit and you will most likely melt the wire itself. That is why if you short the ground side all you do is activate the relay circuit, not blow the relay. Typically the control circuits are not fused. Additionally, half the wires running through the firewall equals half the chance for a short.
But you're right as long as there is not a short in the system, the draw will be the same on both sides of the coil. At least that is my understanding.
But you're right as long as there is not a short in the system, the draw will be the same on both sides of the coil. At least that is my understanding.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Mark, but the current draw is a factor of the circuit design. The limiting factor in the control circuit is the coil in the relay. If you short the ground, the current coming through will be limited by the coil. If you short the power side, there is no limit and you will most likely melt the wire itself. That is why if you short the ground side all you do is activate the relay circuit, not blow the relay. Typically the control circuits are not fused. Additionally, half the wires running through the firewall equals half the chance for a short.
But you're right as long as there is not a short in the system, the draw will be the same on both sides of the coil. At least that is my understanding.
But you're right as long as there is not a short in the system, the draw will be the same on both sides of the coil. At least that is my understanding.
It took a few re-reads to get the wording right in my head, but yes, I believe you are correct