-MAW-

X 2 that would be the safest way to do it remember always secure the scene first and protect yourself

mjolnir

but a bowline creates a weak point in the rope, that's why climbers use a figure-8 knot instead.

For two straps together I'd use a water knot, rescue teams use it to tie their straps together

http://www.animatedknots.com/waterknot/index.php

but I doubt if you'd ever get it apart

and on that note, my vote is for a shackle done w/ a blanket over the straps.

08{GA}RUBICON

This seems to be the way to do it and you will have the two straps tied together in a super tight knot after the recovery.

Until2004

Maybe I am reading it wrong, or you meant to say something else, but the slip method I posted involves no knots, or ties, just existing end loops and use of the cradle method. It all slips apart no matter how hard it is pulled on. I have yet to find a strap that did not have factory end loops.

muddpuppy01

we use this method to tie 100' ropes together to get out. Without the branch wee used paper plates before but just decided to leave them together

we carry shorter straps if need be

dsp

Don, if you need a nice dowel, I have the end of a shovel I use.

When I break another shovel, I will give it to you...I usually break one a month.

I might be due to break one just before the next Wolverine meeting, if so I will bring it

Dave

mjolnir

that's the picture we've been waiting for, thanks


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muddpuppy01

it is simple to pull apart all you do is pull them back apart the way you put it together


lie 2 straps together going the same direction

take strap 1 loop and put it through strap 2 loop at one end

at the other end take strap 2 loop and put it through strap 1 loop

have someone hold at one end the loop the went through the other loop

while you pull on the opposite end loop that went through the loop

once you get the ends to meet up just put something in the middle paper plates a branch or something that will not let it cinch up

to remove just pull the loops back out

goldtr8

Thanks Dave, I will take you up on your offer for a broken shovel.

IMFletch

a bowline is a good choice for a static pull with moderate loads. I would recommend a bowline for dynamic loads that are created when recovering vehicles. Bowlines are very secure and the will not slip when tied and dressed properly, however due to to the sharp angle in a rope that is created when the knot Is tied, creates a weak point that can fail under heavy load. Other knots such as the figure of 8 series are more secure, strong and easy to work with under load. The grapevine series of knots are a good choice for securing two pieces of rope or strap that are roughly equal diameter. These knots may also be safely tied off "slippery" with a smooth dowl to aid in underssing the knot after it is put under load. I used to volunteer with a local high angle SAR Team so I have experience working with rope and anchor systems.