NEED POINTERS/ADVICE using winch
JK Enthusiast
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From: Roseville, CA
Hi all new to having a winch Engo 10k with synthetic for the record.
I need pointers on pulling people out of MUD and general other pointers.
Like should I use a Snatch block in mud?
I wouldn't put my snatch block in the mud as I would be worry about the bearings.
Am I to have my JKU in NEUTRAL when pulling someone out? Or in Park? (I have an auto)
Keep your vehicle in neutral when using the winch. If your vehicle moves too much, use a strap to a tree or another vehicle behind you or try blocking your wheels with rock or a fallen limp, etc.
The Warn website has a good Winching 101 writeup. Always think through your actions and be safe with yourself and others in the area.
And any other advice THANK YOU
I need pointers on pulling people out of MUD and general other pointers.
Like should I use a Snatch block in mud?
I wouldn't put my snatch block in the mud as I would be worry about the bearings.
Am I to have my JKU in NEUTRAL when pulling someone out? Or in Park? (I have an auto)
Keep your vehicle in neutral when using the winch. If your vehicle moves too much, use a strap to a tree or another vehicle behind you or try blocking your wheels with rock or a fallen limp, etc.
The Warn website has a good Winching 101 writeup. Always think through your actions and be safe with yourself and others in the area.
And any other advice THANK YOU
Last edited by Radioman; Apr 22, 2012 at 07:34 PM.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: May 2012
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From: HOUSTON, TX
A snatch block does not double your pulling power. It decreases the load on your cable which is less stressful on your winch and allows you to pull out heavier/tougher objects because you are decreasing the load on your cable whereas you wouldn't be able to without a snatchblock.
Perfect example:
Say you have a 12,000 lb vehicle stuck in the mud. Your cable is only rated at a 10,000 lb safe working load limit. If you run your cable directly to the vehicle you are trying to pull 12,000 lbs on a cable that only has a safe working load limit of 10,000 lbs. Not Good. Someone will get hurt or your jeep will be damaged when the cable breaks and the tension causes it to lash back at your head or vehicle. Say instead of running a direct line to the vehicle that is stuck, you hook up a snatch block on that vehicle and run your cable back to your jeep. Now you have a 2 part line. Instead of pulling 12,000 lbs on one cable, you are pulling 6,000 lbs per line. 6,000 lbs on the cable running to the stuck vehicle and 6,000 lbs on the cable running back to your jeep, which is under your 10,000 lb safe working load limit of your cable.
Therefore, this is why snatchblocks are so effective in the towing industry for off-road recoveries and for off-road enthusiasts. You are DECREASING the amount of load per line of cable. NOT doubling your pulling power.
Perfect example:
Say you have a 12,000 lb vehicle stuck in the mud. Your cable is only rated at a 10,000 lb safe working load limit. If you run your cable directly to the vehicle you are trying to pull 12,000 lbs on a cable that only has a safe working load limit of 10,000 lbs. Not Good. Someone will get hurt or your jeep will be damaged when the cable breaks and the tension causes it to lash back at your head or vehicle. Say instead of running a direct line to the vehicle that is stuck, you hook up a snatch block on that vehicle and run your cable back to your jeep. Now you have a 2 part line. Instead of pulling 12,000 lbs on one cable, you are pulling 6,000 lbs per line. 6,000 lbs on the cable running to the stuck vehicle and 6,000 lbs on the cable running back to your jeep, which is under your 10,000 lb safe working load limit of your cable.
Therefore, this is why snatchblocks are so effective in the towing industry for off-road recoveries and for off-road enthusiasts. You are DECREASING the amount of load per line of cable. NOT doubling your pulling power.
Last edited by JTOTHAP; Aug 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM.
JK Enthusiast
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JK Freak
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From: Red deer, Alberta
A snatch block does not double your pulling power. It decreases the load on your cable which is less stressful on your winch and allows you to pull out heavier/tougher objects because you are decreasing the load on your cable whereas you wouldn't be able to without a snatchblock.
Perfect example:
Say you have a 12,000 lb vehicle stuck in the mud. Your cable is only rated at a 10,000 lb safe working load limit. If you run your cable directly to the vehicle you are trying to pull 12,000 lbs on a cable that only has a safe working load limit of 10,000 lbs. Not Good. Someone will get hurt or your jeep will be damaged when the cable breaks and the tension causes it to lash back at your head or vehicle. Say instead of running a direct line to the vehicle that is stuck, you hook up a snatch block on that vehicle and run your cable back to your jeep. Now you have a 2 part line. Instead of pulling 12,000 lbs on one cable, you are pulling 6,000 lbs per line. 6,000 lbs on the cable running to the stuck vehicle and 6,000 lbs on the cable running back to your jeep, which is under your 10,000 lb safe working load limit of your cable.
Therefore, this is why snatchblocks are so effective in the towing industry for off-road recoveries and for off-road enthusiasts. You are DECREASING the amount of load per line of cable. NOT doubling your pulling power.
Perfect example:
Say you have a 12,000 lb vehicle stuck in the mud. Your cable is only rated at a 10,000 lb safe working load limit. If you run your cable directly to the vehicle you are trying to pull 12,000 lbs on a cable that only has a safe working load limit of 10,000 lbs. Not Good. Someone will get hurt or your jeep will be damaged when the cable breaks and the tension causes it to lash back at your head or vehicle. Say instead of running a direct line to the vehicle that is stuck, you hook up a snatch block on that vehicle and run your cable back to your jeep. Now you have a 2 part line. Instead of pulling 12,000 lbs on one cable, you are pulling 6,000 lbs per line. 6,000 lbs on the cable running to the stuck vehicle and 6,000 lbs on the cable running back to your jeep, which is under your 10,000 lb safe working load limit of your cable.
Therefore, this is why snatchblocks are so effective in the towing industry for off-road recoveries and for off-road enthusiasts. You are DECREASING the amount of load per line of cable. NOT doubling your pulling power.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: May 2012
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From: HOUSTON, TX
Anytime. I I tow everything from motorcycles to over sized loads everyday. My job requires me to do many off road recoveries as well. Any questions you have I'll do my best to answer or will find out the answer.
Last edited by JTOTHAP; Aug 29, 2012 at 05:28 PM.
JK Freak
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From: Las Vegas, NV
These links have a lot of good info
https://cdn.shptrn.com/media/mfg/437...WheelDrive.pdf
http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/...4398/14468.pdf
Also, consider using a snatch strap if they are really stuck. They are made to jerk out vehicles and can be safer if you can get the right position on it.
https://cdn.shptrn.com/media/mfg/437...WheelDrive.pdf
http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/...4398/14468.pdf
Also, consider using a snatch strap if they are really stuck. They are made to jerk out vehicles and can be safer if you can get the right position on it.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 220
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From: HOUSTON, TX
Snatch straps are very effective. I personally don't snatch when using them because you can break things. When the tension is applied and the material stretches, the retraction of the material benefits you and the tension allows it to pull you out more effectively than a chain. I don't like using chains during for off-road recoveries because they will break or stretch the links. Once the links are stretched the chain is ruined. You can still use it but it will definitely break easier than a chain that hasn't been stretched.
AW-Direct. Go to this website and they have decent deals on anything you could possible ever need for off-road recoveries.
AW-Direct. Go to this website and they have decent deals on anything you could possible ever need for off-road recoveries.
