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Old 04-02-2011, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by snowbilt
Don't worry about giving it gas in 4lo while climbing over rocks. Jeep will not die on you even if you depress the brake all the way down to bring it to virtually a complete stop. Jeep engineers got it right on this feature. Try it at the trails before a run you will be amazed,but once you hit the gas the feature disables. As far going down hills my rubi crawls at a snails pace even down steep decents without the brakes.
my jeep has stalled in 1st up some steep obstacles, letting it crawl and no gas. actually in my avatar pic, i stalled going up that
Old 04-02-2011, 10:09 PM
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If your in 1st in low gear and you are facing downhill, you probably could have stood on that brake and the jeep would have still started crawling forward as you released the clutch. Other than that, it just takes practice to learn the timing between releasing the brake and letting up on the clutch. You'll see the revs drop slightly as the engine starts to take over at a crawl. For the second scenario, you probably should have started out in 2nd or 3rd gear in the low range. But like others have mentioned, don't push the clutch in while in deep water. Either learn to shift without the clutch (match RPM's to speed) or wait till it stops, put in the gear you want, then start it. In low gear, you don't need to press the clutch in to start the engine.
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1st scen: What they said

2nd scen: IMO, it sounds like a time for 4HI. If it was just mud/sand, 4HI. I use 4HI 90-95% of the time off-road. Only a crawling situation do you need 4LO. IMO, what you described in the second one doesn't sound like that...it sounds like you should have been in 4HI...IMO.
Old 04-03-2011, 05:05 AM
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good advice....can't wait to get back out and try some of these things
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Originally Posted by KJNewbs
Hey all....just got done with my first real day on the trails...mostly what I'm guessing would be considered tough mild, or light moderate trails. I've got a few questions on best practice in a manual based on a few things that happened. Thanks for the advice everyone.....

- at one point I was approaching a decline with rocks, crawling in 1st until my spotter said to stop...so I put down the clutch and the break half way down. When my wheel was facing the right way, he said to go nice and slow....but by the time I let the clutch out to get back in gear, I was crashing down the rest of it faster than I wanted to.......what was wrong here?

- later, I had to cook it through a long stretch of deep mud. I got up to about 4500 rpm in 1st and realized, ive got to shift! Should I have shifted sooner, later or was it just right? During the shift I feel like I'm at risk of losing some momentum.

I guess I've just got general questions on what gears to be in and when I need the clutch....can I come to a complete stop which still in 1st gear in 4 low, and if not, how do I get back in gear after a dead stop without rolling down hill too much before the gear locks in?
Don't shift in mud btw, and when going downhill you should be able to keep your foot on the brake until you have it all the way in gear.
Old 04-09-2011, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Beantown
my jeep has stalled in 1st up some steep obstacles, letting it crawl and no gas. actually in my avatar pic, i stalled going up that
I take it you have the Sport or X? The 4:1 TC will not )or at least should not) stall in 4LO 1st. You can press the brake down to the ground, no gas, and it still goes forward.
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The OP states he has 3.21 gears which means he is not rocking a 4:1 transfer case. And I can also vouch for the stalling in 4lo using the brakes. If you are rocking 3.21's with larger then say 14" tires (okay I am exaggerating a little) but yeah with larger wheels or probably stock for that matter you can stall. I personally just don't think 3.21's should be on a Jeep or at least not on mine.
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Only thing to add, in low range first gear going down a steep hill and you need to come to a complete stop use your brakes and turn off the engine. Don't touch the clutch pedal. You can restart the engine without the clutch and this will hold the Jeep much better than the E-brake.
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Originally Posted by Red Stinger
Don't shift in mud btw, and when going downhill you should be able to keep your foot on the brake until you have it all the way in gear.
I was out this weekend and out of habit shifted using the clutch in 2 - 3 feet of water/mud. How do I know if any water got in? Do I need to drain and refill anything?
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Originally Posted by wolfpacknc

I was out this weekend and out of habit shifted using the clutch in 2 - 3 feet of water/mud. How do I know if any water got in? Do I need to drain and refill anything?
If u were in the water for a prolonged period I would replace your fluids. If your clutch is still working fine after a week then u probably escapes any real damage.


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