2011 JK Overland/Expedition Project
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2011 JK Overland/Expedition Project
What is up fam! So I haven't been on here in a min, thought I'd come through and give you guys an update on what's all happened the 7 or 8 months I've been MIA... So my poor 07 JK froze up on me while I was heading to The Great Sand Dunes here in CO about 4 months ago which left me with 2 options.... 4-5K on a new motor or sell it as is and move on.....
And so I moved on.. It was a sad day watching it go but after 7 years of owning Jeeps I had a much better idea of what I wanted out of a Jeep but the 2 door wasn't cutting it. So after shopping around for a while I finally found exactly what I was looking for! Behold:
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I wish.......
However this I what I actually purchased!
So as you can see it's a Bright white 4 door JK with a manual transmission and a gorgeous interior! I'm wasn't into the matching tops but it works well with the white plus it reflect lots of heat so it works.
Believe it or not this is my first manual transmission but I'm absolutely loving it! Took about 2 weeks to really get it down but now manual is all i'll ever want haha....Only issue is I've put just about 15,000 miles on it in the short time I've had it but what the hell you only live once right?
Anyway from the pics you can see I've been exploring Colorado nonstop, this place it absolutely wonderful and it's highly recommended for those who haven't been yet. Luckily for me I moved here two years ago from a hell hole called Alabama... No regrets there haha
So with the build I'm going the overland route, this is pretty much what I'm envisioning:
And so I moved on.. It was a sad day watching it go but after 7 years of owning Jeeps I had a much better idea of what I wanted out of a Jeep but the 2 door wasn't cutting it. So after shopping around for a while I finally found exactly what I was looking for! Behold:
Attachment 675449
I wish.......
However this I what I actually purchased!
So as you can see it's a Bright white 4 door JK with a manual transmission and a gorgeous interior! I'm wasn't into the matching tops but it works well with the white plus it reflect lots of heat so it works.
Believe it or not this is my first manual transmission but I'm absolutely loving it! Took about 2 weeks to really get it down but now manual is all i'll ever want haha....Only issue is I've put just about 15,000 miles on it in the short time I've had it but what the hell you only live once right?
Anyway from the pics you can see I've been exploring Colorado nonstop, this place it absolutely wonderful and it's highly recommended for those who haven't been yet. Luckily for me I moved here two years ago from a hell hole called Alabama... No regrets there haha
So with the build I'm going the overland route, this is pretty much what I'm envisioning:
#2
JK Jedi Master
Congratulations, and especially on opting for the manual transmission. As you probably know, the build never stops ... I'm ten years in and still have new mod ideas. Next up for me: Get the HF function of the ham radio working.
Dalton Highway, north of the Arctic Circle ...
Craters of the Moon National Monument, ID (on way to observe the solar eclipse) ...
Dalton Highway, north of the Arctic Circle ...
Craters of the Moon National Monument, ID (on way to observe the solar eclipse) ...
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Thanks Mark! Yes, originally I opted for the manual as they were set at a more reasonable price point but after having used it for 3 months it's pretty much night and day compared to the automatic. Not only is the Jeep not searching for what gear to be in going up and down mountains or even the slightest of hills but I have much more control over my fuel consumption. Off road however has become slightly more complicated but I think it's just me being new to it.
I went to Mendo Pass at The Great Sand Dunes and made about a the first 3/4 of a mile and got stuck in some sand... I didn't take advantage of 4 low because I wasn't thinking but from the smell of it I was burning my clutch so I dug out the sand by hand until I could get back to where it was hard packed. Other than using 4 low what is the trick to driving in the sand (or mud for that matter with not being able to change gears while the clutch is submerged) every time I put it in first and attempted to move forward or reverse the ABS would stop it for one (even when disengaged) and it would stall out almost immediately?
I went to Mendo Pass at The Great Sand Dunes and made about a the first 3/4 of a mile and got stuck in some sand... I didn't take advantage of 4 low because I wasn't thinking but from the smell of it I was burning my clutch so I dug out the sand by hand until I could get back to where it was hard packed. Other than using 4 low what is the trick to driving in the sand (or mud for that matter with not being able to change gears while the clutch is submerged) every time I put it in first and attempted to move forward or reverse the ABS would stop it for one (even when disengaged) and it would stall out almost immediately?
#4
JK Jedi Master
You need to turn off your ESP. A lot of people are unaware that the one ESP button offers three modes: Fully on, partly off, fully off (which isn't really fully off, but it's pretty good). Fully on is normal operating mode. Partly off is what happens when you push the button briefly. Fully off is what happens when you push and HOLD the button for five to seven seconds or so. If you go to 4-low, then you're automatically in fully off mode. But then you've probably got way too much torque for sand; you might try starting off in a higher gear to mitigate that.
Also, did you air down tires? For general overlanding I air down to about 20 PSI. But, for sandy stretches, I air down much lower--15 or even lower. Also, when stuck, as you're trying to drive forward (gently on the gas to reduce tire spin), rapidly move the steering wheel back and forth to get the front tires to dig better into the dirt. And, if all of that fails, a shovel and MaxTraxs are your friends, and once you're moving, momentum is your friend.
EDIT: A couple final thoughts: I like aggressive AT tires, and have had great performance in sand from Goodyear Duratracs. Currently running BF Goodrich KO2s because the Duratracs are more susceptible to punctures. Regardless, a set of tires for off-roading should be replaced well before getting to the tire treadwear indicators. Well before. The treadware indicators are for wet highway performance, not for sand and mud. If your tires on on the worn side, you'll find you have a lot better performance from a set with more tread depth. I generally try to time my tire replacement just before a trip, and when the treadware indicator indicator is halfway into the remaining tread groove.
Also, did you air down tires? For general overlanding I air down to about 20 PSI. But, for sandy stretches, I air down much lower--15 or even lower. Also, when stuck, as you're trying to drive forward (gently on the gas to reduce tire spin), rapidly move the steering wheel back and forth to get the front tires to dig better into the dirt. And, if all of that fails, a shovel and MaxTraxs are your friends, and once you're moving, momentum is your friend.
EDIT: A couple final thoughts: I like aggressive AT tires, and have had great performance in sand from Goodyear Duratracs. Currently running BF Goodrich KO2s because the Duratracs are more susceptible to punctures. Regardless, a set of tires for off-roading should be replaced well before getting to the tire treadwear indicators. Well before. The treadware indicators are for wet highway performance, not for sand and mud. If your tires on on the worn side, you'll find you have a lot better performance from a set with more tread depth. I generally try to time my tire replacement just before a trip, and when the treadware indicator indicator is halfway into the remaining tread groove.
Last edited by Mark Doiron; 10-13-2017 at 12:40 AM.
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Thanks Mark! Yes, originally I opted for the manual as they were set at a more reasonable price point but after having used it for 3 months it's pretty much night and day compared to the automatic. Not only is the Jeep not searching for what gear to be in going up and down mountains or even the slightest of hills but I have much more control over my fuel consumption. Off road however has become slightly more complicated but I think it's just me being new to it.
I went to Mendo Pass at The Great Sand Dunes and made about a the first 3/4 of a mile and got stuck in some sand... I didn't take advantage of 4 low because I wasn't thinking but from the smell of it I was burning my clutch so I dug out the sand by hand until I could get back to where it was hard packed. Other than using 4 low what is the trick to driving in the sand (or mud for that matter with not being able to change gears while the clutch is submerged) every time I put it in first and attempted to move forward or reverse the ABS would stop it for one (even when disengaged) and it would stall out almost immediately?
I went to Mendo Pass at The Great Sand Dunes and made about a the first 3/4 of a mile and got stuck in some sand... I didn't take advantage of 4 low because I wasn't thinking but from the smell of it I was burning my clutch so I dug out the sand by hand until I could get back to where it was hard packed. Other than using 4 low what is the trick to driving in the sand (or mud for that matter with not being able to change gears while the clutch is submerged) every time I put it in first and attempted to move forward or reverse the ABS would stop it for one (even when disengaged) and it would stall out almost immediately?
#6
JK Super Freak
What is up fam! So I haven't been on here in a min, thought I'd come through and give you guys an update on what's all happened the 7 or 8 months I've been MIA... So my poor 07 JK froze up on me while I was heading to The Great Sand Dunes here in CO about 4 months ago which left me with 2 options.... 4-5K on a new motor or sell it as is and move on.....
And so I moved on.. It was a sad day watching it go but after 7 years of owning Jeeps I had a much better idea of what I wanted out of a Jeep but the 2 door wasn't cutting it. So after shopping around for a while I finally found exactly what I was looking for! Behold:
Attachment 675449
I wish.......
However this I what I actually purchased!
Attachment 675450Attachment 675451Attachment 675452Attachment 675453Attachment 675454Attachment 675455Attachment 675456Attachment 675457Attachment 675458Attachment 675459Attachment 675460Attachment 675461Attachment 675462
So as you can see it's a Bright white 4 door JK with a manual transmission and a gorgeous interior! I'm wasn't into the matching tops but it works well with the white plus it reflect lots of heat so it works.
Believe it or not this is my first manual transmission but I'm absolutely loving it! Took about 2 weeks to really get it down but now manual is all i'll ever want haha....Only issue is I've put just about 15,000 miles on it in the short time I've had it but what the hell you only live once right?
Anyway from the pics you can see I've been exploring Colorado nonstop, this place it absolutely wonderful and it's highly recommended for those who haven't been yet. Luckily for me I moved here two years ago from a hell hole called Alabama... No regrets there haha
So with the build I'm going the overland route, this is pretty much what I'm envisioning:
Attachment 675463Attachment 675464Attachment 675465
And so I moved on.. It was a sad day watching it go but after 7 years of owning Jeeps I had a much better idea of what I wanted out of a Jeep but the 2 door wasn't cutting it. So after shopping around for a while I finally found exactly what I was looking for! Behold:
Attachment 675449
I wish.......
However this I what I actually purchased!
Attachment 675450Attachment 675451Attachment 675452Attachment 675453Attachment 675454Attachment 675455Attachment 675456Attachment 675457Attachment 675458Attachment 675459Attachment 675460Attachment 675461Attachment 675462
So as you can see it's a Bright white 4 door JK with a manual transmission and a gorgeous interior! I'm wasn't into the matching tops but it works well with the white plus it reflect lots of heat so it works.
Believe it or not this is my first manual transmission but I'm absolutely loving it! Took about 2 weeks to really get it down but now manual is all i'll ever want haha....Only issue is I've put just about 15,000 miles on it in the short time I've had it but what the hell you only live once right?
Anyway from the pics you can see I've been exploring Colorado nonstop, this place it absolutely wonderful and it's highly recommended for those who haven't been yet. Luckily for me I moved here two years ago from a hell hole called Alabama... No regrets there haha
So with the build I'm going the overland route, this is pretty much what I'm envisioning:
Attachment 675463Attachment 675464Attachment 675465
How many miles did you have on your 07 when it locked up? Just curious.
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So this was June 24th, it was a bit warm that day but was epic because at this time of year (i don't know if it happens every year) the river that flows on the east side of the sand dunes (where you come in) was about a foot deep. Very strange place for sure, almost like some time/space twilight shit haha
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Thread Starter
You need to turn off your ESP. A lot of people are unaware that the one ESP button offers three modes: Fully on, partly off, fully off (which isn't really fully off, but it's pretty good). Fully on is normal operating mode. Partly off is what happens when you push the button briefly. Fully off is what happens when you push and HOLD the button for five to seven seconds or so. If you go to 4-low, then you're automatically in fully off mode. But then you've probably got way too much torque for sand; you might try starting off in a higher gear to mitigate that.
Also, did you air down tires? For general overlanding I air down to about 20 PSI. But, for sandy stretches, I air down much lower--15 or even lower. Also, when stuck, as you're trying to drive forward (gently on the gas to reduce tire spin), rapidly move the steering wheel back and forth to get the front tires to dig better into the dirt. And, if all of that fails, a shovel and MaxTraxs are your friends, and once you're moving, momentum is your friend.
EDIT: A couple final thoughts: I like aggressive AT tires, and have had great performance in sand from Goodyear Duratracs. Currently running BF Goodrich KO2s because the Duratracs are more susceptible to punctures. Regardless, a set of tires for off-roading should be replaced well before getting to the tire treadwear indicators. Well before. The treadware indicators are for wet highway performance, not for sand and mud. If your tires on on the worn side, you'll find you have a lot better performance from a set with more tread depth. I generally try to time my tire replacement just before a trip, and when the treadware indicator indicator is halfway into the remaining tread groove.
Also, did you air down tires? For general overlanding I air down to about 20 PSI. But, for sandy stretches, I air down much lower--15 or even lower. Also, when stuck, as you're trying to drive forward (gently on the gas to reduce tire spin), rapidly move the steering wheel back and forth to get the front tires to dig better into the dirt. And, if all of that fails, a shovel and MaxTraxs are your friends, and once you're moving, momentum is your friend.
EDIT: A couple final thoughts: I like aggressive AT tires, and have had great performance in sand from Goodyear Duratracs. Currently running BF Goodrich KO2s because the Duratracs are more susceptible to punctures. Regardless, a set of tires for off-roading should be replaced well before getting to the tire treadwear indicators. Well before. The treadware indicators are for wet highway performance, not for sand and mud. If your tires on on the worn side, you'll find you have a lot better performance from a set with more tread depth. I generally try to time my tire replacement just before a trip, and when the treadware indicator indicator is halfway into the remaining tread groove.
I did have my tires aired down to about 15psi, Mendeno pass or whatever you want to call it has a air station right at the head of the trail which is incurably convent! But I didn't think of trying a higher gear, now I want to go back just to see if I can make it lol I need some recovery equipment though before I go back out. It was a scary feeling being stuck in the sand right before dark and knowing nobody will be coming through anytime soon but I lucked out by stalling right after the hard packed sand so I didn't have to dig far before I was out of it. '
And thanks for reminding me, I need to start setting aside some money for tires. The ones i have now still have plenty tread but I'm stepping up to 37s or 40s thing is need a lift before so that will be my next move. It snowed here a few days ago and while I was up on Canyon Road over by Buena Vista and the tires did far better than I was expecting for A/Ts
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So this was June 24th, it was a bit warm that day but was epic because at this time of year (i don't know if it happens every year) the river that flows on the east side of the sand dunes (where you come in) was about a foot deep. Very strange place for sure, almost like some time/space twilight shit haha