Maertz's Half Ass Build Thread
#503
First things first. Find someone that will give you a basic lesson, then put your nose ten inches from whatever welding he'll let you watch him do. After a few hours of that, ask if you can lay a bead. Then get a book or two and learn about different techniques, etc.. Read up on PBB and some of the welding forums. The Miller forums and welding web come to mind, but there are plenty others. Then... And only then... Get yourself a machine. Practice is key.
#504
JK Jedi
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millermatic 211
hobart 190
lincoln 180c powermig
none of these are mine i borrow them as needed and when there available, but neat to try them all. I just hook them up with wire and gas and other welding supplies for them letting me use them.
even used a miller bobcat on a trailer another buddy had when i was without a welder for a bit.
Personally i think the lincoln will be my choice when i by one. then hobart then miller. I had nothing but problems with the miller i was using.
Im with abendx, i watched tons of welding and practiced on a lot of scrap metal, and even after that i had buddies do some of the more important welds as i continued practicing on some stuff that wasn't very crucial. I feel now I could handle them, but it took a good amount of time to get here, and really i am no expert. I can lay decent looking beads and i know they penetrate, but im sure there is tons of room for improvement. My roomate just had his truss welded on by a local welder and it looked like a damn robot did it.... I was envious.
Secondly get a gas set up from the get go.. When i started with flux i wanted to pound my face thru my jeep.. Gas will make life so much better.
Last edited by Maertz; 07-24-2014 at 09:40 AM.
#505
JK Jedi
Thread Starter
Well got some more shit in today, and the rest will be here tomorrow...
Put this on for now for the hell of it just to get it off the floor, not sure exactly how I want to do this yet....
Got the compressors in and new air lines ran
Also welded a few caps on some of the pieces that had holes, still need to do the 4 frame ones yet, i cut them out tonight as well just didnt weld them in yet...
Tomorrow night should be ok progress then hoping to bust ass all weekend!
Put this on for now for the hell of it just to get it off the floor, not sure exactly how I want to do this yet....
Got the compressors in and new air lines ran
Also welded a few caps on some of the pieces that had holes, still need to do the 4 frame ones yet, i cut them out tonight as well just didnt weld them in yet...
Tomorrow night should be ok progress then hoping to bust ass all weekend!
#506
JK Junkie
First things first. Find someone that will give you a basic lesson, then put your nose ten inches from whatever welding he'll let you watch him do. After a few hours of that, ask if you can lay a bead. Then get a book or two and learn about different techniques, etc.. Read up on PBB and some of the welding forums. The Miller forums and welding web come to mind, but there are plenty others. Then... And only then... Get yourself a machine. Practice is key.
#507
I know Matt stated his preferences... but I have never had any problems with Miller welders. I've used a 252 plenty and own a 211. My experience with other brands had been very limited, so I have no opinion of them. Also you have the chinese brands... I'm not up on the welders, but some of the plasma cutters coming out of these chi-com shops are pretty good. I can't speak to longevity, but the brand by that same name seems to put my three times as expensive Thermodyne to shame. You might want to read around on some of those to save some cash if you are so inclined.
#508
JK Jedi
Thread Starter
Beautiful!! That's the best way to learn IMO.
I know Matt stated his preferences... but I have never had any problems with Miller welders. I've used a 252 plenty and own a 211. My experience with other brands had been very limited, so I have no opinion of them. Also you have the chinese brands... I'm not up on the welders, but some of the plasma cutters coming out of these chi-com shops are pretty good. I can't speak to longevity, but the brand by that same name seems to put my three times as expensive Thermodyne to shame. You might want to read around on some of those to save some cash if you are so inclined.
I know alot of my customers use thermodyme and hypertherm parts as some can cut some pretty thick stuff but ive used our Chinese Blackstone one that's 500 bucks and it surprised me. Ive never used the expensive ones... A plasma cutter or torch will same some time.. Hell i went thru about 100+ cutoff wheels and if i wasnt getting employee pricing id have been better off getting a cheap plasma.
#509
The miller i used was older though aswell so that may be part of it..
I know alot of my customers use thermodyme and hypertherm parts as some can cut some pretty thick stuff but ive used our Chinese Blackstone one that's 500 bucks and it surprised me. Ive never used the expensive ones... A plasma cutter or torch will same some time.. Hell i went thru about 100+ cutoff wheels and if i wasnt getting employee pricing id have been better off getting a cheap plasma.
#510
JK Jedi
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