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X or Rubicon - Which model JK to start with for a solid build

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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A dealer with come further off list for an X as opposed to a Rubi. You should be able to get into an X for 24-25. That more than makes up makes up the difference in your high estimate for the D30.

Your Rubi build is missing the cost of a new front locker. So add 900 to that or subtract the 900 from the X. If he's doing ARB, get the 35 spline kit at $1400 for the X and add 500 for shafts to the Rubi.

I do not know of this "automatic throttle control at idle", but I can't see the TC having anything to do with it. And if it does, everything on my Jeep works with the atlas the same as it did before.

As to the resale value, an unmodified Rubi will get more money than an X . But at this level, it ain't going to matter.

So here's my math. I bumped it from an Atlas 2 speed to the 4

Plan A: Buy a Rubicon for $32,800 and;
- Keep the factory T-Case
- Sell the front axle $1,500
- Sell the sway bar disco $400
- Sell the wheels and tires $750
- Buy rear Shafts $500
Total cost $30,650

Plan B: Buy an X for $25,000 (Real price) and;
- Buy an Atlas $3200 (4-Speed)
- Buy Lockers $1400
- Sell axle -$500
- Sell the wheels and tires $150
Total cost $28,950

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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You can get an X/Sport with S package for way less than $25K ..... I got mine back in April for $19,100 ..... and same dealer has a 2010 as an internet special right now for $20K with the S-package ... assuming you want a 2-door ...

http://www.mallofgacdj.com/AdWizardAd/2597443

Or you could save Real big buying a used low mile X .... since after changing everything the warranty won't matter to much ....

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Now that's some good detail right there. Facts are cool.

Thanks Bud



Originally Posted by eDiveBuddy
A dealer with come further off list for an X as opposed to a Rubi. You should be able to get into an X for 24-25. That more than makes up makes up the difference in your high estimate for the D30.

Your Rubi build is missing the cost of a new front locker. So add 900 to that or subtract the 900 from the X. If he's doing ARB, get the 35 spline kit at $1400 for the X and add 500 for shafts to the Rubi.

I do not know of this "automatic throttle control at idle", but I can't see the TC having anything to do with it. And if it does, everything on my Jeep works with the atlas the same as it did before.

As to the resale value, an unmodified Rubi will get more money than an X . But at this level, it ain't going to matter.

So here's my math. I bumped it from an Atlas 2 speed to the 4

Plan A: Buy a Rubicon for $32,800 and;
- Keep the factory T-Case
- Sell the front axle $1,500
- Sell the sway bar disco $400
- Sell the wheels and tires $750
- Buy rear Shafts $500
Total cost $30,650

Plan B: Buy an X for $25,000 (Real price) and;
- Buy an Atlas $3200 (4-Speed)
- Buy Lockers $1400
- Sell axle -$500
- Sell the wheels and tires $150
Total cost $28,950
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Plan A: Buy a Rubicon for $32,800 and;
I just paid 30,700 for one. Which would bring your final price down to pretty much the same. And that was with some goodies like the NAV, towing package, power setup for the doors.

I think the question might be more along the lines of will you really get those numbers on the sell lines. If so, then awesome. If not really so much in your area then the Sport starts to pull ahead.

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Spacemilk
I just paid 30,700 for one. Which would bring your final prices down to pretty much the same.

I think the question might be more along the lines of will you really get those numbers on the sell lines. If so, then awesome.
I completely agree. And that was some feedback that I had hoped to get.

The way I see it, is if I can get an Atlas and after market lockers, on a comparably equipped X, for a couple thousand dollars more than a Rubicon, the X is the way to go.

I'm not saying that an X is the way to go for everybody. 90% of the time, the better value for the average Jeeper is a Rubicon.

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Yup. I think your missing the following from my first post:

"Will be a manual tranny.
If he buys a Rubi, then he'll sell the elec. swaybar disco.
The front axle will get replaced."

One of the assumptions was that the front axle will get replaced. X or Rubicon.

Originally Posted by jerseyjk08
AM I missing something here or isn't your X missing a front axle now? or do you already have one somewhere.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseyjk08
AM I missing something here or isn't your X missing a front axle now? or do you already have one somewhere.
I was just going to say that! OH....
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 08redJKnCA
I was just going to say that! OH....
And it will get replaced with the same axle that you picked.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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i bought a sahara to save initial savings, i wish i would have bought a rubicon, to mod over time. i can't go with a bigger lift before bigger tires (looks bad imo), can't go bigger the 33's before gears, and i don't want gears until i get axles. so right now i'm at a stand still until i get a ton of money to throw at my jeep, and i'm already terribly under geared with my 3.21s
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bareass
i bought a sahara to save initial savings, i wish i would have bought a rubicon, to mod over time. i can't go with a bigger lift before bigger tires (looks bad imo), can't go bigger the 33's before gears, and i don't want gears until i get axles. so right now i'm at a stand still until i get a ton of money to throw at my jeep, and i'm already terribly under geared with my 3.21s
How did you get 3.21's on a sahara in 08? I thought that the 08 Sahra's were standard with 3.73 gears? Either I am wrong or you might want to double check that. But either way, I have 3.21's on my X so I feel your under geared pain. Nothing like being geared so high that I kill the jeep going down hill in 4 lo because I cant so slow enough for the terrain.
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