Oligarchy • a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

America right now : with Citizens United allowing corporations and billionaires to buy votes ridding one person one vote, corporations designated as having human rights but can't be thrown in jail for wrongdoing, greed in making short term profits more important than long term sustainable growth sacrificing jobs for profit margins and here's the biggie. An uniformed, lazy, disenfranchised, ignorant by design populace that frowns on smart informed people.

Don't blame the EPA, the "other" skinned people, or government. This change started in the '80's. Blame ourselves for allowing this to happen. Capitalism NEEDS a conscience, without and look around.

Well said. Especially that first word....

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...but we can't deny the fact that govts have been infiltrated. In the USA's case, it is no longer "by the people, for the people."

If it were, NAFTA would be repealed. TPP would be repealed. Glass-Steagall would be brought back in full force. The list goes on....

One could actually argue this started as far back as 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was put into play by Woodrow Wilson. After signing it, he even acknowledged the f*ck-job he gave to the citizenry to acquire presidential votes. He sold out.

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Does anyone make auxiliary lights in the USA? I'm looking for a couple pair of LED cubes.

It's exactly what I was trying to say, people living paycheck to paycheck many times is a mindset and will see you down , broke, no place to live the first time you can't work. Everyone seems to want right now and savings is a curse word. I'm old and I did a good job of teaching my kids, other peoples kids are there problem, I can't fix it.

Rigid Industries is going to be your best bet. There might be others but I haven't checked recently....

LEDs are one thing that's hard to buy American for the average person... Even rigid uses overseas parts and the price gap is extremely significant. I know it sounds shitty but even if though someone buys a cheap lightbar from Amazon or the like, if the business is American at least it's supporting them...

The difference is these so called knock-off Amazon "American" businesses are nothing but "front" shops. They are comprised of nothing more than 2-10 person paper pushing, accounting, RMA processing, customs tracking, and shipping/handling teams. THEY OFFER ZERO IN TERMS OF US MANUFACTURING. ----- ZERO -----

At least with RIGID, like the JK itself, even though they may have overseas components as part of the assembly, at the very least there is still mfg/assembly being done here stateside. That equates to MIDDLE CLASS JOBS. Without a strong MIDDLE CLASS, this country is DEAD.

You said earlier your generation is going to bring MFG back to the US. How exactly are you proposing to do that when you're fine buying cheaper knock-offs from these so called Amazon "front" companies and helping to put the 150+ people that RIGID employs (according to this 2014 article) on the welfare line???

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I'm not in this for a debate. I didn't say that my generation has a plan to bring it back or even *will*. What I was referring to is the fact that it's my generations duty to bring it back. If it isn't fixed by the time my generation is retired or dead, then I believe there won't be much left of America for future generations.
You are correct in your statement about rigid, but the average person can't afford it. It's either a cheap lightbar or nothing, so at least instead of no one getting your money a couple guys from America running a side business out of their garage can pay for the new pair of shoes their kid needs.

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That's a perfect example of how the media twists something into what they want. If you would've read more I said that if my generation doesn't, then there'll likely be no America. I believe in my country, therefore I say my generation will. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here as we're on the same side. You may buy American products, but would you give your life for this country or have you risked your life for this country? If the answer is no, then there really isn't much arguing left you can do.