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corupt1 08-12-2013 05:31 PM

Hard Top hoist
 
So as I am sure everyone with a hard top has wanted is an easy way to remove the hard top alone. Watched a ton of YouTube videos and such and thinking of trying the 4 ratchets from the ceiling of the garage method. Any pro's con's or suggestions for this method? My biggest concern is lowering the top back down. All the videos I found are just taking the top off, not putting it back on.

FYI I only have a 2 door JK

Thanks

Fiveofun 08-12-2013 09:04 PM

I have a 4 door and did the 4 ratchets from the ceiling thing. Worked great, I loved it (unfortunately I had to move and can't do that now). I had no problem putting it back on, I would back the Jeep up under the top, then take the weight off the corner I was putting back on, and release the tension from the ratchet, then lower the top down. One corner at a time was light enough to hold with one hand, and I had the 4 door hardtop remember. Do it! :beer:

Namtaru 08-12-2013 09:41 PM

I used 2 on my 2 door, now use 3 (one for the rear window) on my 4 door to compensate for more weight towards the rear.

Have had my top off for almost a month before with zero ill effects.

What I do is lift it up about 2" higher than stock, then just drive out.
To put it back on, i just back it in under the harddtop, then let a little slack out on each strap, and it falls right back into place.


http://namtaru.com/uploads/2012/1hardtoplift.jpg


http://namtaru.com/uploads/2013/jkuhardtoplift.jpg

Hot94Z28 08-13-2013 04:15 AM

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I got a harken hoist one of my favorite things I have bought for the Jeep. I dont think the price is bad at all. Attachment 487885Attachment 487886


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Rednroll 08-13-2013 05:31 AM

I started off with the rachets, it worked well for a cheap solution. It is a pain in the rear though. Remember, if you have 4 ratchets, then you need to run around your Jeep and rachet one up a bit, move to the next, ratchet the next, so and and so forth and then repeat.

The important thing to remember with the rachets is don't raise it up any higher than it needs to be, because like you mentioned, ratcheting back down is not an option. So imagine if you raised it 1 foot higher than where it sits on the Jeep, that means you're going to have to drop 1 corner down 1 foot while the others remain dangling your roof off balance. Raising it no more than 2 inches is your best bet.

The ratchets worked for me, for a short time. Then I started to consider this is my $30K+ vehicle where I'm risking scratching it, or having the roof come crashing down, breaking into pieces as it hits the floor, as well as scratching your $30K+ investment all to hell. The ratchets were a pain having to keep doing circles around the car when lifting it off and lowering it down was not the easiest thing to do by yourself either.

I decided it was better to stop being a cheap ass and spend $250, where I bought a Lange hard top hoist which comes with everything you need including a hand crank. So now I just lower the lift on my top, put the 3 hooks in place, and crank it up and then slowly lower it back down. It didn't make a lot of sense to me to spend $25 on a ratchet set and keep risking damage to my $30K+ investment.

I was originally disappointed with the robustness of the Lange lift, but overall it works, and has worked well for me.
http://www.4wd.com/aux_incl/images.a...AN&w=400&h=400

The Harken hoist looks ok to me, but every time I look at it, I see where I have to 1st feed the straps through the inside of my Jeep, and that doesn't seem like a pleasant experience either. Plus, you needed to have 4 roof rafter mounting points. The Lange you need 1.

Hot94Z28 08-13-2013 05:41 AM

Its just two straps? Take all of a minute to run them through and click it?


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bbolander 08-13-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Rednroll (Post 3646826)
I started off with the rachets, it worked well for a cheap solution. It is a pain in the rear though. Remember, if you have 4 ratchets, then you need to run around your Jeep and rachet one up a bit, move to the next, ratchet the next, so and and so forth and then repeat.

The important thing to remember with the rachets is don't raise it up any higher than it needs to be, because like you mentioned, ratcheting back down is not an option. So imagine if you raised it 1 foot higher than where it sits on the Jeep, that means you're going to have to drop 1 corner down 1 foot while the others remain dangling your roof off balance. Raising it no more than 2 inches is your best bet.

The ratchets worked for me, for a short time. Then I started to consider this is my $30K+ vehicle where I'm risking scratching it, or having the roof come crashing down, breaking into pieces as it hits the floor, as well as scratching your $30K+ investment all to hell. The ratchets were a pain having to keep doing circles around the car when lifting it off and lowering it down was not the easiest thing to do by yourself either.

I decided it was better to stop being a cheap ass and spend $250, where I bought a Lange hard top hoist which comes with everything you need including a hand crank. So now I just lower the lift on my top, put the 3 hooks in place, and crank it up and then slowly lower it back down. It didn't make a lot of sense to me to spend $25 on a ratchet set and keep risking damage to my $30K+ investment.

I was originally disappointed with the robustness of the Lange lift, but overall it works, and has worked well for me.
http://www.4wd.com/aux_incl/images.a...AN&w=400&h=400

The Harken hoist looks ok to me, but every time I look at it, I see where I have to 1st feed the straps through the inside of my Jeep, and that doesn't seem like a pleasant experience either. Plus, you needed to have 4 roof rafter mounting points. The Lange you need 1.

I have a TJ lange at home and JK lange in our second family home in Utah. I had to cut off about 8" of the smaller center bar and move the side arms out further to make the TJ work on my JK. I'm going to compare the TJ hooks with the JK hooks next time i'm in Utah to see if they're the same. I really like them because mine have the power hoist and I can do it by myself with no effort - great for a retired guy!

The lange frame pieces are heavy duty, the problem with them is the unthreaded holes and small screws use to attach the frame pieces strip the threads easily. For what it costs they should do better and use real threads and larger screws. The other things are their instructions which say insert the side arms with the j-hooks until they meet in the center which makes the distance between the j-hooks over the doors too short and they need to be moved out from center to work. They also leave it to trial and error on where to locate the eyebolt for the hoist cable. They sell these specifically for JK 's and they should give a specific dimensional locations for the side arms and the eyebolt. But it's a great hoist in my opinion.

RalphTomaccio 08-13-2013 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Rednroll (Post 3646826)
The Harken hoist looks ok to me, but every time I look at it, I see where I have to 1st feed the straps through the inside of my Jeep, and that doesn't seem like a pleasant experience either. Plus, you needed to have 4 roof rafter mounting points. The Lange you need 1.

Running the Harken strap from the door area through the tailgate is an unpleasant experience? It takes less than a minute!

And, I would rather have 4 mounting points in the ceiling than just one for safety reasons. Plus, there's much less chance of the top rotating around as it's being raised or lowered.

bbolander 08-13-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RalphTomaccio (Post 3647081)
Running the Harken strap from the door area through the tailgate is an unpleasant experience? It takes less than a minute!

And, I would rather have 4 mounting points in the ceiling than just one for safety reasons. Plus, there's much less chance of the top rotating around as it's being raised or lowered.

the top definitely wants to rotate with the lange. it's easy enough to guide by finger touch though. when stored, you'll need to add some straps to something to keep it from rotating. I don't have that problem since I have a 12 ft garage ceiling and already had a wood frame to set mine on after it's hoisted up from when I stored my Bronco steel tops. the two straps you see were used to keep it straight while I was pulling the JK out and putting the wood supports in.

Attachment 487952

HG07JKRubi 08-13-2013 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by corupt1 (Post 3646492)
So as I am sure everyone with a hard top has wanted is an easy way to remove the hard top alone. Watched a ton of YouTube videos and such and thinking of trying the 4 ratchets from the ceiling of the garage method. Any pro's con's or suggestions for this method? My biggest concern is lowering the top back down. All the videos I found are just taking the top off, not putting it back on.

FYI I only have a 2 door JK

Thanks

Take a look at my Hardtop hoist/storage write-up thread. I opted for a little more beefy setup than ratchet straps. It's an easy on - easy off solution and provides great storage for the top and panels.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...t/IMG_0035.jpg


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