Originally Posted by JPop

I didn't see a previous response in this thread.

The chart I created tries it's best to grasp the different terrain people roll over and sorting out appropriate gear sets. They don't fit everyones style and what they deem to be an acceptable level of performance. With the 2012s the penalty of kick downs is a lot less intrusive, and even unlocking the converter unleashes more power than the 3.8L. The Pentastar has far better efficiency as does the WA580 transmission. What you can get away with is a great deal broader than what it was before and stock gear sets keep open a lot more options for plus size tires.

With your situation, you are relatively close to sea level and some rolling hills to contend with. It's not the same as what people need to contend with in more mountainous regions, and at higher elevations. What works in your locale is not the same as what would work in regions with a greater variety of changing elevations. Speed also has a lot to do with things, as rolling over rural highways at 50mph is quite different than rolling over interstates at 70mph with 3+ degree grades. Perhaps most telling is the statement to do over again you would choose 3.73s or 4.10s which is right in the wheelhouse of what the charts suggest.

The charts posted are less than perfect as they don't have an appropriate measure for what one person or another feels is appropriate performance levels. They do their best to provide a fairly broad window of what will work and what are outside of generally accepted bounds. I can certainly change chart data based on others input but I need better data, supporting road conditions and more than anecdotal information. I'd like nothing more than having more reference points and more feedback to increase the accuracy of the charts although the window is still going to be pretty large as people have a lot of different expectations of performance levels and what gear sets bring to the table.

Originally Posted by jesse0920

I was plagued with the same problem. I looked for over 2 and a half months for a JKU Rubi with a 6-speed in any color and with any options. There were maybe a dozen within a 1000mi radius. I kept looking until I could take it no more and ended up ordering mine. I tried ordering one early on but there was a build restriction. If you want the 6-speed and don't need it immediately that may be what you want to do as well... I don't have any experience in a 2012 with an auto but I like the driver input of a 6-speed therefore thats why I purchased it.

Originally Posted by MortuaR

Whoops... just read a few pages back that the OP got a 2012 Silver standard JKU Rubi - congrats! Hopefully my rant will be useful to someone somewhere.

Originally Posted by MortuaR

My Jeep also got placed online for sale once it was in transit (pissed me off). My salesperson told me they received dozens of calls asking them to dealer trade or from people wanting to buy it sight unseen from pretty far away (black leather, no nav, dual tops, manual trans). I told him "maybe you guys should stock more 6 speed JKU Rubicons - you might just sell one or two of them."