The black art of turbo sizing...
...is really just all about compressor mapping and matching that to your needs. (CIDx0.5xRPMxVE... etc.) There are some great books by SA Design as well as HP Books. I personally think the actual powe-rband of these is so low, you would be wasting money unless you could were going to bolt on some junkyard pieces from an import.
Personally, I just want the instant throttle response of a POSITIVE DISPLACEMENT blower, like a twin screw compressor. THen no matter what RPM your at, when you hit the loud pedal you are getting WHAT YOU PAID FOR. Why pay for a 8PSI kit (50% more power) when it is only MAKING 8PSI at 5000RPM? With a twin screw, the boost is already there, all you gotta do is open up the throttle blade. |
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Originally Posted by DocFuller
(Post 3249035)
Totally love this thread- and free to subscribe to :) dueces- where are you in the country?!?
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Originally Posted by RoysRig
(Post 3244113)
Raced at Bandimere for years. I love displacement, but would love a turbo even more up here.
For Colorado Springs (approx. elevation 6000 feet), I'm assuming you have a 2011 or earlier = 202 HP for the 3.8 L: (6000 x 0.03 x 202hp)/1000 = 36hp loss Now you are running around 166 HP... 33:yup: |
Originally Posted by 33 williys 77
HP Loss = (elevation x 0.03 x horsepower @ sea level)/1000 For Colorado Springs (approx. elevation 6000 feet), I'm assuming you have a 2011 or earlier = 202 HP for the 3.8 L: (6000 x 0.03 x 202hp)/1000 = 36hp loss Now you are running around 166 HP... 33:yup: |
Originally Posted by 33 williys 77
HP Loss = (elevation x 0.03 x horsepower @ sea level)/1000 For Colorado Springs (approx. elevation 6000 feet), I'm assuming you have a 2011 or earlier = 202 HP for the 3.8 L: (6000 x 0.03 x 202hp)/1000 = 36hp loss Now you are running around 166 HP... 33:yup: The EASY part is adding boost. The hard part is adding boost thats there WHEN YOU NEED IT... not where it showed up on a dyno. Go twin screw for a non-race JK, or a well designed turbo. |
Forgive my stupid question, but what is an example of a twin-screw
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Originally Posted by NebraskaUnlimited
Forgive my stupid question, but what is an example of a twin-screw
Attachment 377682 Attachment 377681 These two are roots type and are less efficient then the newer twin screw where two machined helices compress the air better and generate less heat Attachment 377683 New style twin screw supercharger, although they both do the same thing the twin screw is new technology |
Originally Posted by efan450
<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=377682"/> <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=377681"/> These two are roots type and are less efficient then the newer twin screw where two machined helices compress the air better and generate less heat <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=377683"/> New style twin screw supercharger, although they both do the same thing the twin screw is new technology Instant boost... from about 1,500 rpm all the way to redline. |
Originally Posted by DeucesALLin
(Post 3250896)
Just add boost! (HP
The 3.8l has 2.5" diameter t.b and the viper t.b diameter is 3" so its a increase in air volume. The 3.6l has 3" t.b diameter already so its pointless. and there are programers that will acount for the t.b diameter 3" 33:yup: |
That good info. My concern was the same when I contacted the only company I know of offering the Stroker Kit short block, requested dyno results. No response? That tells me lots, plus I was thinking that you can add cubes but with no mods to the heads would it still be clogging on the exhaust stroke?
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