This guy has pretty good feedback on ebay, and his bumpers are well priced and look good. I think I am going to buy one!

Here is his website: nates4x4.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=70

 

Oops.... here is a link:

nates4x4.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=70

and a pic:

 

That's funny you bring this up, i just got a message from them back on ebay. He told me that they could shorten the bumper 10"
I should have asked if they could relocate the lights and drop the winch down.
I too have considered this an option. I wonder if they will have a rear bumper out soon too?

 

There is no other place for the lights? Where would you want them?

 

Outside the frame rails, then move the d-rings to the center of the frame rails, ala shrockworks, and remove the long bar hoop.

 

I like the lights where they are. With these changes I would buy this bumper in a heartbeat! imo it solves all the problems. It keeps the factory fogs, moves the d rings to the strongest position and has a nice looking grill guard. and is not full length. Here it photoshoped I hope it worked.

 

He has a tire carrier bumper for the JK out at the end of this month. The TJ rear bumpers are nice and you can't beat the price (you do need to get them painted, though). I refuse to pay $1000 for a Warn bumper for a JK (yea, the same one they sell for $300 less on non-JK's).

 

I know what you mean! I was looking at $750+ dollars for a Warn bumper and winch plate from 4wheel parts.

 

I went ahead and baught one! He said it will be 2 weeks, I can't wait!

 

did you get the shortened one? i'd be interested in seeing pics of that.