choosing a 3.5" lift AEV or Metalcloak?
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ya sorry to the original poster, but ya iv heard stuff about the zinc coating also but i am extreme salt lol. i live near the bay on a salt water lake.i wash my jeep once a week and after everytime im on the beach and i am still rusting so ya. just looking for somthing that can hold up until i get a chance to leave this city. i have friends that run the metal cloak and they love it.
#22
I don't know the actual lift gains on aev coils, but just as a heads-up if you choose MC: their 3.5" coils gave plenty of height for my 37" stt pro's, even with uncut stock fenders before I chopped them. I've lost track of overall lift height on my '08 through the various coil/spacer progressions, but over 4.5" would be a decent guess. Which means a flip becomes more important, and you should budget for a front driveshaft replacement. Not trying to talk you out of taller coils, just that if you choose MC, the 2.5" might be the better choice for a wifely driven JK on 35's.
We'll be going 35s for sure. I already have a flashcal so the tuner would end up on the web for sale. I've had the 5100s on my previous 2dr and i thought they were incredible in comparison to the stock shocks and the crappy rough country shocks i had from my previous lift on my 4dr. The AEV bilsteins are tuned for that specific lift so I'm thinking they'll be even better. I know my wife, she won't do any hardcore offroading. It will most likely be a pavement princess until I decide to take it off road, but I won't be able to do the same trails I used to or she'll kill me. I'm leaning towards the AEV for her. I fit was my Jeep, I'd probably do a frankenlift and get the AEV springs, MC arms, synergy track bars, and probably go with fox shocks. I've been told the zinc coating on the MC arms won't last up here due to the amount of salt they use on the roads in the winter. Decisions decisions
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thank you to all for your input. i'm really at an impass right now. i told the wife that 2.5" is the way to go for her use but she loves the lifted jeep look .. she clearly doesn't understand everything involved in surpassing that height.
i'll show her this thread and let her decide. that way i don't get blamed lol
i personally love the bilsteins. i like a firmer ride. i had them on my 2dr and had no complaints at all and that was with crappy 3 year old rough country springs.
the only experience i have with JKS is their front trackbar which i liked, then again, i didn't have it for too long as i sold the jeep 6 months or so after that.
we already changed the front bumper to the AEV and will eventually get the rear to match, terraflex reinforcement tire support/carrier, a winch, tranny/oil pan skid and diff guards so we will be adding a bit of weight but not a whole lot.
i'll show her this thread and let her decide. that way i don't get blamed lol
i personally love the bilsteins. i like a firmer ride. i had them on my 2dr and had no complaints at all and that was with crappy 3 year old rough country springs.
the only experience i have with JKS is their front trackbar which i liked, then again, i didn't have it for too long as i sold the jeep 6 months or so after that.
we already changed the front bumper to the AEV and will eventually get the rear to match, terraflex reinforcement tire support/carrier, a winch, tranny/oil pan skid and diff guards so we will be adding a bit of weight but not a whole lot.
#24
With the 2.5" coils it looks pretty tall, the 37s make it look a little shorter and mine came in at right about 2.75". I also have a very heavy Jeep with steel bumpers, fenders, rocker guards, and skids so with a lighter two door like you are describing I bet the actual height you net would be a little over three. Good luck with the wife! At least she's into this hobby like you are.
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FINAL DECISION - we decided on the Metalcloak 3.5" Overland Rocksport edition and added the MC front adj trackbar and exaust spacer.
I'm going to install that and see how it handles, then decide if we need to add control arms. Will probably do JKS J flex arms since they use OEM style bushings so no maintenance required and they are powder coated instead of zinc plated. Finally, whatever zinc plated hardware in the MC kit, I will add a couple of layers of paint (maybe just a clear) specifically on the control arm drop brackets. I think she'll be happy with this. Found an authorized MC distributor with excellent pricing a couple hours away from me so I'll just take a drive and pick everything up once received. He says 3-4 weeks. CAN'T WAIT!
I'm going to install that and see how it handles, then decide if we need to add control arms. Will probably do JKS J flex arms since they use OEM style bushings so no maintenance required and they are powder coated instead of zinc plated. Finally, whatever zinc plated hardware in the MC kit, I will add a couple of layers of paint (maybe just a clear) specifically on the control arm drop brackets. I think she'll be happy with this. Found an authorized MC distributor with excellent pricing a couple hours away from me so I'll just take a drive and pick everything up once received. He says 3-4 weeks. CAN'T WAIT!
#27
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You should not need front control arms with drop brackets. The brackets do more to help the ride than adjustable control arms do so you would be degrading the ride moving from the brackets to adjustable arms. You might want to consider a set of rear arms to gain back some of the lost wheel base you get by lifting and using the factory arms that will push the rear axle forward. You should think hard about a drag link flip as you will be over 4" in actual lift which lends itself to wander and bump steer due to the steep angles of the front track bar. Powder coating does not = rust proof, You will still see rust and powder coating tends to flake more then paint when the rust gets under the coating.
Good luck with the jeep.
Good luck with the jeep.
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You should not need front control arms with drop brackets. The brackets do more to help the ride than adjustable control arms do so you would be degrading the ride moving from the brackets to adjustable arms. You might want to consider a set of rear arms to gain back some of the lost wheel base you get by lifting and using the factory arms that will push the rear axle forward. You should think hard about a drag link flip as you will be over 4" in actual lift which lends itself to wander and bump steer due to the steep angles of the front track bar. Powder coating does not = rust proof, You will still see rust and powder coating tends to flake more then paint when the rust gets under the coating.
Good luck with the jeep.
Good luck with the jeep.
as for the rear arms, just upper or lower as well?
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Nice. Let us know what you think of the ride/handling. Which trackbar bracket are you adding along with the yeti end?
Don't forget to keep an eye on that front driveshaft joint at the tcase, the grease is very noticeable if/when it starts spitting out.
One set of arms will rotate the top or bottom of the housing. To move the entire axle forward/backward in the wheel well you need both sets. But install it and see what you think about the clearances and handling before another purchase.
Don't forget to keep an eye on that front driveshaft joint at the tcase, the grease is very noticeable if/when it starts spitting out.
One set of arms will rotate the top or bottom of the housing. To move the entire axle forward/backward in the wheel well you need both sets. But install it and see what you think about the clearances and handling before another purchase.
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Nice. Let us know what you think of the ride/handling. Which trackbar bracket are you adding along with the yeti end?
Don't forget to keep an eye on that front driveshaft joint at the tcase, the grease is very noticeable if/when it starts spitting out.
One set of arms will rotate the top or bottom of the housing. To move the entire axle forward/backward in the wheel well you need both sets. But install it and see what you think about the clearances and handling before another purchase.
Don't forget to keep an eye on that front driveshaft joint at the tcase, the grease is very noticeable if/when it starts spitting out.
One set of arms will rotate the top or bottom of the housing. To move the entire axle forward/backward in the wheel well you need both sets. But install it and see what you think about the clearances and handling before another purchase.
I'll try it without arms and take it from there.
Driveshafts will eventually have to be changed, but that's the cost of lifting so high i suppose