How to rotate new 35's
JK Newbie
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From: Ankeny,Ia
Thanks for this thread I have been doing the wrong rotation pattern. I have been rotating the spare but wrong pattern. Is this why when I rotate the tires they howl louder then before for a couple 100 miles or so?
JK Newbie
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...so here goes...
I failed to include the spare in my wife's Sahara's last rotation, after how many km's (or miles) is it too late to include it in the rotation?
JK Enthusiast
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Another example of things from that generation that is passed on is the battery sitting on the ground or concrete will go dead. I assure you it will not go dead any faster than the one sitting right beside it on wood. I still hear people say this all the time.
JK Freak
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From: jonesboro, AR
Originally Posted by Jo-Ni-JK's
I know what you mean, feels like every queston I ask is a dumb one, lol...
...so here goes...
I failed to include the spare in my wife's Sahara's last rotation, after how many km's (or miles) is it too late to include it in the rotation?
JK Enthusiast
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From: St. Albert, AB
Baloney! That was true 30+ years ago when radial tires first came out, but has NOT been true for many, many years. Most tire shops suggest 4-tire rotation because it is less work for them.
I have done a 5-tire rotation for at least 20 years now with absolutely NO problems.
I have done a 5-tire rotation for at least 20 years now with absolutely NO problems.
And no offense intended...but just because you have done something the same way for 20 years, doesn't make it right TODAY. Things change as technologies change. I am always open to new/better thoughts on a topic.
I'll keep doing 5 tire rotations myself....
Grant
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I am just passing on what the dude at the tire shop recommended. I have always done a 5 tire rotation on all my vehicles as well.
And no offense intended...but just because you have done something the same way for 20 years, doesn't make it right TODAY. Things change as technologies change. I am always open to new/better thoughts on a topic.
He mentioned that as a tire wears/spins, the steel belts get "directional" in some way...and then when you flip them, it creates more stress or something. Could be a load of crap...but I don't know why he would just make this up. Who knows...I researched it a bit, and I found some other tire rotation discussions that mentioned the similar thoughts...but nothing I would consider conclusive.
I'll keep doing 5 tire rotations myself....
Grant
And no offense intended...but just because you have done something the same way for 20 years, doesn't make it right TODAY. Things change as technologies change. I am always open to new/better thoughts on a topic.
He mentioned that as a tire wears/spins, the steel belts get "directional" in some way...and then when you flip them, it creates more stress or something. Could be a load of crap...but I don't know why he would just make this up. Who knows...I researched it a bit, and I found some other tire rotation discussions that mentioned the similar thoughts...but nothing I would consider conclusive.
I'll keep doing 5 tire rotations myself....
Grant
Goodyear recommends crossing the tires on a rear wheel drive or 4-wheel drive vehicle, but it is not a must. I think most tire manufactures say to check your owner's manual.
http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/rotation/
Regular and proper tire rotation promotes more uniform wear for all of the tires on a vehicle. All season tires should be rotated in a "modified X" pattern, meaning only the tires being moved to the drive axle are crossed to the opposite side of the vehicle.
The remaining two tires are moved from the drive axle to the free rolling axle, remaining on the same side of the vehicle. This method of rotation helps promote a more even and uniform treadwear pattern for all four tires.
The only exception to this would be the use of "directional" tread design tires such as our Aquatred II or some of our Eagle line high performance tires. These tires would remain on the same side of the vehicle and be rotated straight forward and straight back.
If you have a four-wheel drive vehicle, we recommend crossing both pairs of tires to their new axle positions.We recommend tire rotation at least every 6,000 miles. Four-wheel drive vehicles may require rotation even sooner such as every 4,000 miles. Check your vehicle owner's manual for the manufacturer's rotation recommendations. If no rotation period is specified, tires should be rotated every 6,000 to 8,000 miles. The first rotation is the most important. When tires are rotated, inflation pressures must be adjusted to the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations. Uneven tire wear may also be due to misalignment or mechanical problems. Many Goodyear retailers can provide expert diagnosis and repair.
The remaining two tires are moved from the drive axle to the free rolling axle, remaining on the same side of the vehicle. This method of rotation helps promote a more even and uniform treadwear pattern for all four tires.
The only exception to this would be the use of "directional" tread design tires such as our Aquatred II or some of our Eagle line high performance tires. These tires would remain on the same side of the vehicle and be rotated straight forward and straight back.
If you have a four-wheel drive vehicle, we recommend crossing both pairs of tires to their new axle positions.We recommend tire rotation at least every 6,000 miles. Four-wheel drive vehicles may require rotation even sooner such as every 4,000 miles. Check your vehicle owner's manual for the manufacturer's rotation recommendations. If no rotation period is specified, tires should be rotated every 6,000 to 8,000 miles. The first rotation is the most important. When tires are rotated, inflation pressures must be adjusted to the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations. Uneven tire wear may also be due to misalignment or mechanical problems. Many Goodyear retailers can provide expert diagnosis and repair.
http://www.firestonecompleteautocare...s/tirecare.jsp
Tire Rack shows cross-over pattern rotation here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=43
All of the above references state that directional tires should NOT be crossed- over. They must be run in the direction the arrow points to on the tire.
So again, as far as a tire shop mechanic stating that tires should not be crossed-over, or that the spare should not be put into the rotation, that is incorrect. Adding the spare to your rotation pattern is personal preference, and will add a full 25% to your tire life.
Mabar