Hydro versus Gas Shocks
SubscribeI have been running the FT 3" Eco lift for a few thousand miles with adjustable front and rear track bars and the premium lower control arms for the front. Also have 35 / 12.5 / 18 Toyo MT's. I got the hydro option with the shocks and the ride is not bad but it is a little bumby. I have to admit I kind of like it, but last weekend when my wife couldnt drink her coffee she was looking at me a little cross eyed.
Does anyone have any recomendations on shock options to smooth out the ride a little bit.
P.S. I have not noticed many ESP compaints lately but after I installed the FT premium lower control arms on the front, I have not had the ESP light go on a single time.
Does anyone have any recomendations on shock options to smooth out the ride a little bit.
P.S. I have not noticed many ESP compaints lately but after I installed the FT premium lower control arms on the front, I have not had the ESP light go on a single time.
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I personally love my M-Force shocks but I hear the new Bilstine shocks for the JK are great as well. Of course, if you could wait a bit longer to replace your shocks, OME should be releasing some for the JK in the near future as well 

I can definately wait, especially if it would make a big difference. I just dont want to change them out again if it will only make a marginal difference. So many things to upgrade, so little coin to do it.
JK Enthusiast
So I was talking to my local Superlift dealer yesterday, and he stated that the Superlift Select Series Monotube Bilstein would ride rougher than the cheaper Superide Shocks. He did say however, that the Bilstein shock would last longer due to their bushings being different. Rubber vs poly. Just trying to figure out whether to go to the Bilstein's or not.
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Well, when it comes to shocks, ride quality is totally subjective to the person riding on them. For me, I like a firm responsive shock (like Bilsteins typically are) as I feel they tell me what the road/trail is doing and are in my opinion more comfortable. Cheaper hydro shocks (and I have run the gamut of them) do offer what some people would call a 'softer' ride but in my opinion, it's more like a mushy ride that makes you sea sick. But again, that's just my opinion. Originally Posted by ChopperKrawler
So I was talking to my local Superlift dealer yesterday, and he stated that the Superlift Select Series Monotube Bilstein would ride rougher than the cheaper Superide Shocks. He did say however, that the Bilstein shock would last longer due to their bushings being different. Rubber vs poly. Just trying to figure out whether to go to the Bilstein's or not.

I am sure that the FT Hydro shocks are not mushy. When you say mushy I picture they way the old Buicks use to ride. Mine are firm and the jeep handles very nice. I may have the problem that FT made to good of a product.
At this point every bump is felt in the cab. Not in a bad way, you just know you went over something. I don't want to make it worse by going to gas shocks so I think I am going to have to start making my wife drink her coffee out of a sippy cup

At this point every bump is felt in the cab. Not in a bad way, you just know you went over something. I don't want to make it worse by going to gas shocks so I think I am going to have to start making my wife drink her coffee out of a sippy cup

JK Enthusiast
I had this same problem on my CJ. I did a 3 inch lift and used the shocks that came with the kit. they were very stiff. Granted they never faded, and they controlled spring bounce perfectly. But the compression and rebound damping rates were way too high. A friend with a TJ had exactly the same experience.
I could not figure out what shocks would work and I did not want to buy multiple sets to discover the answer. Like WOL said, this is a subjective subject. I ended up with Rancho 9000s because they were adjustable. I personally thought they were awfully expensive for the quality, but they did teach me something. Very little "good quality" damping can make for a much better ride than too much cheap damping. We left them on or near the lowest setting almost always. Granted part of this was the fact that I had a 4000# Jeep and the same universal shocks likely also fit 6500# trucks. It sure would have been nice to skip the expensive adjustable model and just have an appropriate shock.
Because of my desire to have more travel, not just more clearance and droop with my lift I want to find shocks that have appropriate damping that have the right range of travel. The shock manufacturers information is vague or non-existent on damping rates in this market. Anyone have aftermarket shocks that are too bouncy?
I could not figure out what shocks would work and I did not want to buy multiple sets to discover the answer. Like WOL said, this is a subjective subject. I ended up with Rancho 9000s because they were adjustable. I personally thought they were awfully expensive for the quality, but they did teach me something. Very little "good quality" damping can make for a much better ride than too much cheap damping. We left them on or near the lowest setting almost always. Granted part of this was the fact that I had a 4000# Jeep and the same universal shocks likely also fit 6500# trucks. It sure would have been nice to skip the expensive adjustable model and just have an appropriate shock.
Because of my desire to have more travel, not just more clearance and droop with my lift I want to find shocks that have appropriate damping that have the right range of travel. The shock manufacturers information is vague or non-existent on damping rates in this market. Anyone have aftermarket shocks that are too bouncy?
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At this point every bump is felt in the cab. Not in a bad way, you just know you went over something. I don't want to make it worse by going to gas shocks so I think I am going to have to start making my wife drink her coffee out of a sippy cup
Okay, in all fairness, most of the hydro shocks I have run in the past were mushy but only because I was looking for a 'soft' riding shock. I have however run the gamut of stiff as hell shocks like ProComp ES3000's and Rancho 5000's (basically the same thing). Honesty, if it's at all possible for you to ride in a JK that has mono tube gas charged shocks, that might be the best way for you to see how it'll feel for you. Or, test drive a Rubicon as they have high pressure gas charged mono tube shocks and will have, in my opinion, a great ride but are a bit firmer than an M-Force shock. Originally Posted by sunburnt
I am sure that the FT Hydro shocks are not mushy. When you say mushy I picture they way the old Buicks use to ride. Mine are firm and the jeep handles very nice. I may have the problem that FT made to good of a product. At this point every bump is felt in the cab. Not in a bad way, you just know you went over something. I don't want to make it worse by going to gas shocks so I think I am going to have to start making my wife drink her coffee out of a sippy cup

WOL, That is a great tip. I didn't realize that about the Ruby's. I will ask to take a drive at next months club meeting and find out. I have been itching for a chance to swap jeeps for a few minutes to see the difference.