Hypertech or Superchips
JK Junkie
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From: Lakewood, OH
Hypertech was the first on the scene for the JK and they really test their product. Additionally, they work within tolerances to avoid you having problems later on. Some tuners (I've heard for example of the Bully Dog) will pull all they can get which can lead to mechanical problems later.
Can you elaborate on any testing procedures that Hypertech has in place that Superchips does not? What tolerances does Hypertech adhere to that Superchips does not? Nevermind, I see this is just third party innuendo and wrapped up with something that might happen, without basis as to why.
I encourage the OP to call each company and talk to a representative about their products and how they're tested. You're reprogramming the computer on your JK that runs practically everything. Do you want it right or do you want it cheap?
Also keep in mind who was the only company to respond in this thread.
Also keep in mind who was the only company to respond in this thread.
As for pricing, the majority of what anyone is paying for is intellectual property, not hardware. The cost of intellectual property is leveraged over the number of units sold, and a less expensive product definitely doesn't denote a lesser quality product.
Lastly, it's been a year since Superchips has released their product, and since then have pretty much dominated the market for this platform. I don't know if it makes any sense for them to make a statement in this thread, as the end users are already taking care of that for them. It's Hypertech that needs to be here to quell their diminishing market performance for this platform, but apparently their isn't much ammunition to do so.
JK Junkie
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From: Lakewood, OH
It's simply temporarily plugged into the OBDII port, readily available under the dash, you go through a short group of selections, turn the key on and off a few times and wala your vehicle is programmed and you disconnect the Flashpaq.
JK Freak
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From: Boise, ID
I found a Superchips Flashpaq for $295 and free shipping.
I used a Superchips Chip in my 03 F150. From Day 1, it was perfect. Never had 1 problem and I owned my truck for 8 years. The performance was great. I had it reflashed once because I changed something and they were great to deal with.
I know I'll be buying Superchips without a second thought.
I used a Superchips Chip in my 03 F150. From Day 1, it was perfect. Never had 1 problem and I owned my truck for 8 years. The performance was great. I had it reflashed once because I changed something and they were great to deal with.
I know I'll be buying Superchips without a second thought.
JK Freak
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From: Waterford, MI
This pretty much sums it up. b5rider I took the liberty of adding some CODE tags so your table would line up. The interesting thing is the peak torque numbers are the same but the superchips horsepower number is WAY higher. That tells me the area under the torque curve for the superchip is probably much better. And it's area under the curve that counts.
The November 09 issue of JP magazine had a shoot=out between the tuning chips. Here are the differences per the article.
They went on to say that the Superchip gave the best "seat-of-the-pants" power gain out of all the tuning modalities. Bear in mind this article was written for the 11/09 issue, and Hypertech may have updated their chip. Hope this helps. I plan on getting the Superchip as soon as the overtime comes in
Code:
SUPERCHIP HYPERTECH
MPG gain.......7.1% 7.1%
HP gain.........18 11
Torque..........24 24
0-60 time.......-0.65 sec -0.31 sec (from stock)
Lckers in4HI....yes no
TPMS adjust ....yes no
modes...........87, 91,93 octane 87, 91 octane
tow, fuel economy
view data in
real time.......yes no
Last edited by Doc_D; May 5, 2010 at 04:50 PM.
JK Freak
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From: Eastvale, ca
This pretty much sums it up. b5rider I took the liberty of adding some CODE tags so your table would line up. The interesting thing is the peak torque numbers are the same but the superchips horsepower number is WAY higher. That tells me the area under the torque curve for the superchip is probably much better. And it's area under the curve that counts.
JK Freak
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From: Burbank, CA
Last edited by yomondo; May 6, 2010 at 06:11 AM.
JK Freak
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From: Eastvale, ca
Installed today!
The UPS man came by, I downloaded the newest software and plugged it in. The initial process is pretty simple, the Superchip downloads your stock data then gives you the option to install their maps. I installed the 87 octane map which took about 2 minutes to install. I held my breath as I turned the ignition to off and then started the engine (after disconnecting the Superchip). The engine fired up and away I went. The biggest problem with the stock mapping is the throttle tip-in. The stock Jeep is made to be smooth while crawling so the engineers made the throttle response very slow. This makes for a horrible experience when driving the car around town. I drive 40 miles one-way to work and always felt as if I was towing something. My right foot would tire easily, and when I got into my wife's car, I would mash the throttle so deep that I would peel-out on the initial drive because I was so used to pushing so hard on the skinny pedal. That said, the 87 mapping fixes the slow throttle and makes it more responsive. It is easier to push on the pedal and makes for a better driving experience. I noticed small performance gains as well. I punched it a few times, and felt the car had more pick-up and was easier to pass and merge onto the freeway. The only negative I noticed was a slightly rougher idle. Other than that, every electrical component seems to work so far and I do feel this product makes the car much easier to live with on a daily basis. It is NOT a huge performance tool. If you are looking for huge performance gains, save your money for a Hemi. If you want the car to respond better and feel 'livelier', then this is a type of product you will like. I think it is worth it's money so far. I will report on mileage after a few rides to work and back, and I will try the higher octane map in two more tankfuls (which isn't too long for me, unfortunately)
JK Junkie
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From: San Diego
OK, so you haven't used both products, there is more than feature by feature comparisons, so I'll just assume that it's fairies and pixie dust that you would suggest for evaluation.
The premise that because something comes first by no means makes it better and is definitely a false assumption. Superchips has been in the tuner game for a long time and when they come to the JK market with a more feature rich product, I would assume that takes more time to complete.
Can you elaborate on any testing procedures that Hypertech has in place that Superchips does not? What tolerances does Hypertech adhere to that Superchips does not? Nevermind, I see this is just third party innuendo and wrapped up with something that might happen, without basis as to why.
That must be some sort of new way to get unbiased opinions, talk to the manufacturer. Don't trust the word of the people on this forum who have used both products (excluding myself) and have overwhelmingly lined up behind the Superchips product.
As for pricing, the majority of what anyone is paying for is intellectual property, not hardware. The cost of intellectual property is leveraged over the number of units sold, and a less expensive product definitely doesn't denote a lesser quality product.
Lastly, it's been a year since Superchips has released their product, and since then have pretty much dominated the market for this platform. I don't know if it makes any sense for them to make a statement in this thread, as the end users are already taking care of that for them. It's Hypertech that needs to be here to quell their diminishing market performance for this platform, but apparently their isn't much ammunition to do so.
The premise that because something comes first by no means makes it better and is definitely a false assumption. Superchips has been in the tuner game for a long time and when they come to the JK market with a more feature rich product, I would assume that takes more time to complete.
Can you elaborate on any testing procedures that Hypertech has in place that Superchips does not? What tolerances does Hypertech adhere to that Superchips does not? Nevermind, I see this is just third party innuendo and wrapped up with something that might happen, without basis as to why.
That must be some sort of new way to get unbiased opinions, talk to the manufacturer. Don't trust the word of the people on this forum who have used both products (excluding myself) and have overwhelmingly lined up behind the Superchips product.
As for pricing, the majority of what anyone is paying for is intellectual property, not hardware. The cost of intellectual property is leveraged over the number of units sold, and a less expensive product definitely doesn't denote a lesser quality product.
Lastly, it's been a year since Superchips has released their product, and since then have pretty much dominated the market for this platform. I don't know if it makes any sense for them to make a statement in this thread, as the end users are already taking care of that for them. It's Hypertech that needs to be here to quell their diminishing market performance for this platform, but apparently their isn't much ammunition to do so.
