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CBJeeper 03-21-2019 09:18 PM

Leveling and spacers
 
Need some education. I have 2008 JKUR that has OME shocks and what is reported to be a 2" lift. Maybe I can assume it is an OME 2" lift??? Question is this- the front of the Jeep sits about an inch lower than the rear of the Jeep. I do not like the rake and want to level out. I am looking at the Teraflex 1" spacers but am not certain if I can add these to an existing lift? Does it matter? Will the spacers sit on top of the coils just as easily as if they were stock springs?

lowendrider 03-21-2019 11:47 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...c480b19911.jpg
Yes, you can add a spacer just as easily as if it were stock. It may be helpful to take some measurements to see what you actually have..

resharp001 03-22-2019 07:25 AM

Agree, especially if just talking about a thin spacer to level things out. No issues.

CBJeeper 03-23-2019 08:35 AM

Thank you. I see what appears to be a cup /spacer/cap at the top of the spring already. Would a lift kit supply a cap at the top of the spring between the top of perch and spring. The lift seems to high to be just a budget spacer lift... This is what is throwing me. I will take a photo and post.

resharp001 03-23-2019 10:48 AM

Figure you're referring to the normal rubber'ish isolator that goes between the top of the spring and the upper perch. Just pop your leveling spacer between the isolator and the upper perch. Snap a pic though. Just curious to confirm you don't already have some sort of spacer in place.

CBJeeper 03-23-2019 01:03 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...46b8987d43.jpg
I did confirm that it is an OME lift.

CBJeeper 03-23-2019 03:29 PM

Photo posted...

resharp001 03-23-2019 05:02 PM

k, that is definitely NOT the factory isolator I was thinking. That looks more like a 2.5" spacer puck.

nthinuf 03-23-2019 05:45 PM

Disco's and coil spacers, what else ya got. Snap some pics of the rest of the suspension/steering.

CBJeeper 03-23-2019 08:23 PM

WIll do. Both front and rear springs have OME tags on them and there are OME shocks all 'round. I would assume that this would be an OME lift. This is why I was left scratching my head over what already looks like a spacer. Maybe earlier OME lifts (pre-ARB?) used this in their lift design?

CBJeeper 03-25-2019 07:53 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...61686a06ce.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...34dc4267e6.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...b78547439b.jpg
Additional photos of the front end...

resharp001 03-26-2019 07:38 AM

The first thing that jumps out to me is you have cam bolts installed in the lower control arms (axle-side bracket). That may be something that you want to read up on. It’s just my opinion that those are the worst caster correction options we have. I don’t trust them at all. That is not to say they will give you problems, but if you get in to off roading much, you might want to look at a cam bolt delete kit which just fills in the holes in the axle bracket and allows you to use a normal bolt again, and select a different means of caster correction. Not trying to fear monger, I just noticed them immediately.

Also, it looks like you have a zerk on top of the ball joint in one of those pictures….kinda hard to tell though. Maybe that is just part of the tire I’m seeing behind it giving the illusion something is on top of the BJ. If there is a zerk, someone has replaced the BJs on that along the line as the factory BJs aren’t serviceable.

Factory tie rod
Factory drag link

CBJeeper 03-26-2019 08:34 PM

Thank you for pointing out the cam bolts. I was not aware. I am planning to plunk down for some CORE 4x4 level 3 adjustable lowers to correct caster. I will remove the cam bolts during the install. I will check out the BJs and see if there are indeed zerks. I do not believe this is the case.

resharp001 03-27-2019 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by CBJeeper (Post 4338948)
I will check out the BJs and see if there are indeed zerks. I do not believe this is the case.

must just be an illusion caused by some raised lettering on the tire behind it then. If those are factory BJs, you should at least start budgeting for some as they are a common issue on our modified JKs. You can read up a bit on em. Although no perfect options, Teraflex seems to be one of the better options lately due to warranty. Rare Parts are pricey, but probably the last BJs you'd ever have to replace.

CBJeeper 03-30-2019 01:57 PM

OK. So my mystery is yet unsolved. If this is an older OME lift with OME-tagged coils all 'round, why would there exist what appears to be front coil spacers? The minimum lift with a set of coils and shocks would be 2", yes? This JK does have a pronounced rake to the front...

CBJeeper 03-30-2019 02:05 PM

Just measured- front shock measurement is roughly 22 1/2".

CBJeeper 03-30-2019 02:07 PM

Looked again. Uppers have zerk, lowers have zerk plug.

nthinuf 03-30-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by CBJeeper (Post 4339143)
OK. So my mystery is yet unsolved. If this is an older OME lift with OME-tagged coils all 'round, why would there exist what appears to be front coil spacers? The minimum lift with a set of coils and shocks would be 2", yes? This JK does have a pronounced rake to the front...


If you wander around OME's website, you will find a big table of like 15 or 20 different coils for the Jeep JK. They are listed by rate and application (2dr/4dr/Gas/Diesel/load rate/etc). That the box says 2" lift is meaningless, what matters is the coil rate and what model JK you put them on. (My 2" front OME coils were classified as Heavy Duty, and gave around 3.25". Since I had a heavy front bumper and winch, the shop I ordered from suggested Medium duty rear coils to go with the HD fronts)

added info for the link to arb coils below

CBJeeper 03-30-2019 05:33 PM

The rear coils are tagged OME620, which I have referenced as 2" JKU rear coils. There exist no spacers in the rear.

The front coils are tagged OME19. I can find no reference to this part number except Dakur leaf springs.

I do have an ARB front bumper, heavy front skid plate and Warn Powerplant 9.5 on the front. Sounds like I will need to contact ARB/OME and look into a heavier spring.

nthinuf 03-30-2019 06:51 PM

Looks like they moved stuff around on their site again.( ARB USA - Guides - Vehicle Application Guides - Jeep)

2619's are 4dr front Heavy Load (89-180 lbs)
2620's are 4dr rear Heavy Load (660 lbs)

I didn't see it listed, but they used to have a '+40' coil that was around a 4" lift. That might be an option if you want a taller OME coil. Or, MetalCloak coils are taller than stated spec - I'm around 4.5" with their 3.5" coils (but folks with heavier rigs indicate that 4" is more normal).


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