Lockers?
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I might try to make it. He lives in Penasquitos so it's only a few mins away. It would be fun to meet some of the members.
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I talked to him and he's leaning toward locking only the rear and reinforcing the front. He still wants an eaton elocker but I'm trying to talk him into an arb. Are the elockers really that much weaker than the arb in the d44....is the extra cost of the arb worth it?
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LOL!! i always find it so amusing to hear people so eager to talk about c gussets and sleeves when it comes to dana 30's. i find it even more amusing that they would be recommended over chromoly shafts especially being that we're talking about lockers here. 
if you do lock up your front end, do yourself a favor and get a good set of chromoly shafts. even with them installed, there's a good chance you'll still break one and well before you can bend your housing or break it. trust me, on this one.
if you do lock up your front end, do yourself a favor and get a good set of chromoly shafts. even with them installed, there's a good chance you'll still break one and well before you can bend your housing or break it. trust me, on this one.
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Too add to David's post. The RCV's are almost double but worth it IMO. I have the Ten Factory's and they are great but I'm just not a fan of the U-joints. I've seen too many guys with beefed up axles pop U-Joints on the trail. Granted, its a quick fix(if the axle isn't grenaded) and CV joints can also fail but I personally have yet to see an RCV axle fail. Another alternative would be CTM joints but they are not cheap!
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you're absolutely right, different people will have different experiences. me, i sure have seen a lot of axle shaft breaks but only because unlike some people, i actually go wheeling with lots of people all the time. as far as housing breaks go, if i recall, you broke yours while driving on pavement and the others you've heard about were all on the internet. me, i've only seen and helped to fix/recover no less than 3 JK's with broken housing on trails like the rubicon and ALL were on dana 44 front axles. of course, they and the dozen or so that i too have heard of break on the internet DO NOT even account for a fraction of a percent of the thousands of JK's that exist today. but, i can see how your pavement break and the experience you've gained by reading thing on the internet would get you to recommend something like sleeves over chromoly axle shafts in a thread regarding lockers on a dana 30.
For someone that runs a website dedicated to offroading, you sure are negative about people actually using the internet to gather information or relate their experiences, and very quick to put words in other peoples mouths. From the last time you laid into me, we can't trust shops, because they only want to sell us stuff. And we can't trust mfg's, because they are all self serving and lie. And we can't trust the internet, unless the post actually agrees with you. So the only option left is? To blindly agree with you...
People do have experiences and opinions that may not mimic yours. It doesn't automatically make them wrong.
So, go ahead and rip me a new one. Again. You'll feel better.
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Too add to David's post. The RCV's are almost double but worth it IMO. I have the Ten Factory's and they are great but I'm just not a fan of the U-joints. I've seen too many guys with beefed up axles pop U-Joints on the trail. Granted, its a quick fix(if the axle isn't grenaded) and CV joints can also fail but I personally have yet to see an RCV axle fail. Another alternative would be CTM joints but they are not cheap!
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But when I was relating what I have seen, that is what I have actually seen in person, not read about. It can't compare to what you have experienced, because some of us simply can't go out and break shit every day of the week, but for the limited time I get to spend, that is a fairly good number of broken jk housings and gear sets compared to the number of shafts I have seen fail.
For someone that runs a website dedicated to offroading, you sure are negative about people actually using the internet to gather information or relate their experiences, and very quick to put words in other peoples mouths.
From the last time you laid into me, we can't trust shops, because they only want to sell us stuff. And we can't trust mfg's, because they are all self serving and lie. And we can't trust the internet, unless the post actually agrees with you. So the only option left is? To blindly agree with you...
People do have experiences and opinions that may not mimic yours. It doesn't automatically make them wrong
People do have experiences and opinions that may not mimic yours. It doesn't automatically make them wrong
for all i care, you can choose to trust and believe whatever shops you want, whatever manufacturers you want and heck, whatever you read on the internet. the only thing i hope to do is make sure others know where your vast wealth of knowledge comes from so that they can qualify your advice.
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My dad has a 2010 2dr JK x with a 2.5in teraflex lift and 35in tires. He wants to get new gears and lockers. He is looking at 4.88 gears and is looking at running an E locker in the rear. If he keeps his d30 up front, can he lock it also? He wants selectable lockers and does not want to run ARB because he doesn't want to mess with on board air. Any suggestions on what type of locker he can run in the rear/front? Will he need to get C gussets and sleeves for his d30?