resharp001

If you can't adjust those cam bolts enough to achieve the desired caster, then yes, I would remove them and go with a geo bracket instead. That said, when they installed the cam bolts, they had to knock out adidtional space in your axle side CA bracketst. Those would need to be plugged up, but it seems recently someone had just posted a nice fix for doing just that. Can't recall but will see if I can locate it.

resharp001

Ah, post #32 is what I was thinking of in this thread -

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modi...-343851/page2/

Really no different than welding some generic heavy duty washer in place.

It's still a welding situation, basically recreating the nice bolt hole again from the enlarged area knocked out for the cam bolt. That is one of the biggest issues going with a cam bolt to begin with as reversing the decision isn't as easy. That and they're more prone to failure when offroadin. Unfortunately most aren't fully aware until it's too late

nthinuf

Search on 'cam bolt eliminator'. Synergy and Teraflex sell them, I'm sure others do as well. As noted, they are basically just thick washers. You remove the cams, pop these over the enlarged holes (some people weld them, others don't), then install the arms and/or brackets.

But, cart before the horse, as it were. Check that low caster is the cause of the steering lightness before throwing money at it. Could end up being nothing more than over-inflated tires. (doubt it, but maybe a contributor.)

resharp001

That makes sense. Maybe that is what was pictured on that previous link but just couldn't see the other side of it. Would make sense at least.

nthinuf

The pic posted in that thread looks like a teraflex washer.

https://teraflex.com/file/attachment...33b3007081.pdf

Millerca2

Measured the caster and it is 6*. Of course this was with a level app on my iPhone but from what I have read, running 6* on a 3.5” lift is okay.

So, if everything is within tolerances. Should I just leave it alone. I don’t want to put on a SS if it will mask problems that may occur.

resharp001

That caster seems pretty high. Most of us are in the 4-5* range. It's one of those things that is a fine line....too little caster will leave you desiring more out of your steering, and too much can start to mess with the driveline. I'm going to guess that you have a pretty decent margin of error in that measurement with the app.

I was going back up and through the thread as a refresher....and it looks like DL is not flipped. If you're getting 3.5" of actual lift, doing a high steer kit (flipping DL) is gonna make a decent difference. I was without one for quite a while, and there was a significant improvement when I finally did flip it.

nthinuf

That sounds high, I was under the impression that cams wouldn't give that much adjustment? So, I'll fall back on my previous suggestion to find an alignment shop that does free checks if you want some verification of the numbers.

But assuming 6 is correct, that should not be the cause of the steering looseness.

Lack of a Draglink Flip causing loose steering? Many people talk about bumpsteer from the steep angles. That was not my experience, though. I drove around for several years with about 4 inches of actual lift height and no flip. No bumpsteer, no looseness. What I noticed after flipping was a less jarring ride. I attributed it to bumps that had been travelling up the steeply angled bars, sort of like what people say about control arm brackets flattening those angles.