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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 04:39 AM
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Is your current view for or against? I'm really looking to added for extra insurance. Two buddies with 35s have had steering boxes start leaking bad recently so it's fresh in my mind.
Against. Puts all the stress on the steering shaft. Just spend the $1000 and get hydro assist. Here is a pic of a club members steering shaft. Broke on the trail. Been a total mess and now he's out $700 for a new box.



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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4

Against. Puts all the stress on the steering shaft. Just spend the $1000 and get hydro assist. Here is a pic of a club members steering shaft. Broke on the trail. Been a total mess and now he's out $700 for a new box.

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Damn that sucks. I never even thought of that. Hydro isn't really in the mod budget, and I didn't think it would be necessary with 35s. But now it another thing to think about...risk no brace and failure or brace and failure haha
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Against. Puts all the stress on the steering shaft. Just spend the $1000 and get hydro assist. Here is a pic of a club members steering shaft. Broke on the trail. Been a total mess and now he's out $700 for a new box. <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=619774"/>
Would the weight of the tires be the biggest factor? My 37's are lighter than most 35's.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NJKURPat

Damn that sucks. I never even thought of that. Hydro isn't really in the mod budget, and I didn't think it would be necessary with 35s. But now it another thing to think about...risk no brace and failure or brace and failure haha
Really don't need hydro with 35s. And again he said it's not a very common occurrence. It's the first I've seen of the issue when putting on a brace. Maybe invest has seen more. But there are plenty of people who run a brace with no issues. I would think you would be safe with 35s.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:31 AM
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I ran the synergy brace with MC 3.5 and it drug on the coils. Finally went hydro assist. Much better solution.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DunnyBunny

Really don't need hydro with 35s. And again he said it's not a very common occurrence. It's the first I've seen of the issue when putting on a brace. Maybe invest has seen more. But there are plenty of people who run a brace with no issues. I would think you would be safe with 35s.
That's what I'm thinking. It'll at least save my box until hydro becomes more of an option. And if there is any rubbing, I figure I can take a grinder and cut away a bit if needed.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DallasJKU
Would the weight of the tires be the biggest factor? My 37's are lighter than most 35's.
It is not weight, but leverage. 37s put way more leverage on the steering. Keep in mind, that steering boxes aren't shearing off the frame or blowing shafts cruising down the road. All of the instances I am aware of were in cases of high stress, such as crawling rocks or Moab where there is a ton of traction. I've always wheeled the same stuff (rocks, rocks, and more rocks). When I had 35s, I could turn them in the rocks for the most part. With 37s, not a chance. The proper technique without hydro is to bump the Jeep forward and back while turning the wheel a little at a time. Just won't work all the time and I've had to be winched out of obstacles solely because I couldn't turn the tires. And now I have hydro assist (although I also went to 40s, so wasn't really an option).

As noted, the number of catastrophic failures is minimal. Just be aware if you are leaning into the wheel when your tires are jammed in between rocks. Leaking boxes is also an issue and a brace will help. With larger than 35s, a brace absolutely tightens the on road steering.

In summary, hydro is best, but most won't go that route. To brace or not to brace, is a personal decision.
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
It is not weight, but leverage. 37s put way more leverage on the steering. Keep in mind, that steering boxes aren't shearing off the frame or blowing shafts cruising down the road. All of the instances I am aware of were in cases of high stress, such as crawling rocks or Moab where there is a ton of traction. I've always wheeled the same stuff (rocks, rocks, and more rocks). When I had 35s, I could turn them in the rocks for the most part. With 37s, not a chance. The proper technique without hydro is to bump the Jeep forward and back while turning the wheel a little at a time. Just won't work all the time and I've had to be winched out of obstacles solely because I couldn't turn the tires. And now I have hydro assist (although I also went to 40s, so wasn't really an option). As noted, the number of catastrophic failures is minimal. Just be aware if you are leaning into the wheel when your tires are jammed in between rocks. Leaking boxes is also an issue and a brace will help. With larger than 35s, a brace absolutely tightens the on road steering. In summary, hydro is best, but most won't go that route. To brace or not to brace, is a personal decision.
Luckily my 37's are only 35.5".
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DallasJKU

Luckily my 37's are only 35.5".
What 37s are you running? An inch and a half seems like a lot...
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NJKURPat
What 37s are you running? An inch and a half seems like a lot...
KO2's

They might be 35.75. Either way they are probably the smallest and lightest 37" that I know of. I picked them for that reason.
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