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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Against. Puts all the stress on the steering shaft. Just spend the $1000 and get hydro assist. Here is a pic of a club members steering shaft. Broke on the trail. Been a total mess and now he's out $700 for a new box. <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=619774"/>
I'm confused. How does the brace put the stress on the shaft? It appears it puts all the stress on the track Bar's main frame attachment point instead of the shaft. The whole purpose is to brace the shaft and put the stress off of it.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckLisa
I'm confused. How does the brace put the stress on the shaft? It appears it puts all the stress on the track Bar's main frame attachment point instead of the shaft. The whole purpose is to brace the shaft and put the stress off of it.
The brace keeps the box from flexing on the frame. If you were to jam your tires into something and turn the wheel, you'd see the box flexing and that's why people shear the bolts off. However, that flexing means that the force is partially removed from the steering shaft. Once you brace it, all that force is placed directly on the shaft. And keep in mind that like an axle shaft, it was designed to be strong in terms of twist forces, not lateral forces.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks for the explanation!!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
The brace keeps the box from flexing on the frame. If you were to jam your tires into something and turn the wheel, you'd see the box flexing and that's why people shear the bolts off. However, that flexing means that the force is partially removed from the steering shaft. Once you brace it, all that force is placed directly on the shaft. And keep in mind that like an axle shaft, it was designed to be strong in terms of twist forces, not lateral forces.
But doesn't the box flex on the frame because of lateral force from the pitman arm? I would think the brace would absorb this force. Unless all the flexing is a result of only rotational or twisting force - I dunno, seems like it could be a little of both. I would think leverage of the pitman arm is putting some side load on the shaft
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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I think what he is saying, and what makes sense to me, is that the flex in the shaft absorbs some of the energy. Enough to transfer the remaining stress to the steering box bolts. When you remove the flex from the shaft, the shaft can not overcome the additional stress and gives way before the steering box bolts.
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Old Aug 7, 2015 | 05:47 AM
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2.5" MC ARB with MCE fenders and 37" KO2's.



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Old Sep 4, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Now the waiting game begins, I bought game changer with the rock sport shocks today with the free shipping for the holiday.
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DallasJKU
2.5" MC ARB with MCE fenders and 37" KO2's. <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=620714"/>
I love the stance of your Jeep! Any rubbing on trail, street? How much BS on your wheels?

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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolf
I love the stance of your Jeep! Any rubbing on trail, street? How much BS on your wheels? Sent via Jeep wave from my NSA-approved domestic-espionage device.
No rubbing on street or trail. I have had the front disconnected and no rubbing. BS is around 4.75".
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 07:09 AM
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Just a friendly reminder we are shipping metal cloak parts same day
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