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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Lol you guys are ok :P

Hold up ... SteerSmarts IS s a "large steering component company"
Steer smarts is a 85 year old business making steering systems. Their core business is steering and they manufacture over a million tir rods annually. They applied their 85 years of lessons learned and developed the YETI linkage for jk. They have the patented no drill top mount that bolts to the factory tapered hole with out drilling the knuckle. This mount tested stronger than the original factory mount. They also have oversized 30mm ball in their tir rods with steel bearings.
They also have a built in reverse pin that provides near zero flop of the draglink and tir rod assembly. There are over 30 million of these reverse pin features on ball joint over the past 25 years with no warranty issues.
Steer Smarts products are 100 % made in the USA. They are in the process of testing everyone's linkages that are on the market to see which ones are truly HD. Check out there website, they will soon have the only truly HD linkage with the patented GRIFFIN Technolgy. YETI Griffin linkage available this summer.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Compliant
Steer smarts is a 85 year old business making steering systems. Their core business is steering and they manufacture over a million tir rods annually. They applied their 85 years of lessons learned and developed the YETI linkage for jk. They have the patented no drill top mount that bolts to the factory tapered hole with out drilling the knuckle. This mount tested stronger than the original factory mount. They also have oversized 30mm ball in their tir rods with steel bearings.
They also have a built in reverse pin that provides near zero flop of the draglink and tir rod assembly. There are over 30 million of these reverse pin features on ball joint over the past 25 years with no warranty issues.
Steer Smarts products are 100 % made in the USA. They are in the process of testing everyone's linkages that are on the market to see which ones are truly HD. Check out there website, they will soon have the only truly HD linkage with the patented GRIFFIN Technolgy. YETI Griffin linkage available this summer.
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Link isn't working.

edit... now it did.. thanks for the link
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Compliant
Steer smarts is a 85 year old business making steering systems. Their core business is steering and they manufacture over a million tir rods annually. They applied their 85 years of lessons learned and developed the YETI linkage for jk. They have the patented no drill top mount that bolts to the factory tapered hole with out drilling the knuckle. This mount tested stronger than the original factory mount. They also have oversized 30mm ball in their tir rods with steel bearings. They also have a built in reverse pin that provides near zero flop of the draglink and tir rod assembly. There are over 30 million of these reverse pin features on ball joint over the past 25 years with no warranty issues. Steer Smarts products are 100 % made in the USA. They are in the process of testing everyone's linkages that are on the market to see which ones are truly HD. Check out there website, they will soon have the only truly HD linkage with the patented GRIFFIN Technolgy. YETI Griffin linkage available this summer. Steer Smarts | Steering and Suspension Improvement Products
I've read that somewhere before...

Right, you posted it. Sounds great. Tell me about your experience with off-road vehicles? And people running tires far larger than the stock vehicle. Tires and use case that far exceed what the stock vehicle was ever intended for. Have you seen a steering box shear all four large bolts off the frame? Have you seen how DOM tube bends at the sight of a rock? We can make something stronger with the same design you offer, but we won't. It doesn't pass our standards. Doesn't make it a bad product. It just doesn't pass the safety standards we have (or any company in the industry). It's not a revolutionary idea. If the logic of making something smaller and weaker makes sense to you, then have at it. We're in the business of making larger and stronger products. What we make is not for everyone, just people who prefer to upgrade from stock and not downgrade.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fusion 4x4
I've read that somewhere before...

Right, you posted it. Sounds great. Tell me about your experience with off-road vehicles? And people running tires far larger than the stock vehicle. Tires and use case that far exceed what the stock vehicle was ever intended for. Have you seen a steering box shear all four large bolts off the frame? Have you seen how DOM tube bends at the sight of a rock? We can make something stronger with the same design you offer, but we won't. It doesn't pass our standards. Doesn't make it a bad product. It just doesn't pass the safety standards we have (or any company in the industry). It's not a revolutionary idea. If the logic of making something smaller and weaker makes sense to you, then have at it. We're in the business of making larger and stronger products. What we make is not for everyone, just people who prefer to upgrade from stock and not downgrade.

I didn't know you were making larger and stronger products because I thought the Fusion Linkage was using the tie rod ends from Rare Parts.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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Learning here. I would think the joints are just as important or more important than the bar itself. A tie ron can be straightened or steering wheel centered to get you off the trail. A broken/sheared joint you are in trouble unless carrying extras.
Currie iirc uses the same DOM/thickness with their tie rod and i dont see any reports of people bending them. Ive read reports of their joints failing but i think thats been fixed ?
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 10:25 AM
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Wait what carbon fiber ? Sounds interesting.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Compliant
Ken, I have 13 development engineers in Ohio and 3 in our R&D facility located in Plymouth, Michigan just looking for projects. We have been looking at Carbon Fiber for some time now. Very strong and light, corvette uses it and has been using a lot of it over many years. We are going to make a few and test them to see if it's worth doing. I'll have videos of our 4 wheel steering JK 2 door on our steer smarts YouTube site next week. It's a lot of fun to drive. Compliant
I'm curious... I'm an aerospace engineer and carbon fiber is used a lot in our industry. I would like to hear your perspective on how you think a carbon fiber tie rod would hold up to off-roading in the rocks and taking serious abuse. Thoughts???
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Compliant
Ken, I have 13 development engineers in Ohio and 3 in our R&D facility located in Plymouth, Michigan just looking for projects. We have been looking at Carbon Fiber for some time now. Very strong and light, corvette uses it and has been using a lot of it over many years. We are going to make a few and test them to see if it's worth doing. I'll have videos of our 4 wheel steering JK 2 door on our steer smarts YouTube site next week. It's a lot of fun to drive. Compliant
Carbon fiber Tie Rods?? This is funny stuff
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
I'm curious... I'm an aerospace engineer and carbon fiber is used a lot in our industry. I would like to hear your perspective on how you think a carbon fiber tie rod would hold up to off-roading in the rocks and taking serious abuse. Thoughts???
No doubt, now a CF track bar or drag link might work.
Shits pretty strong.

http://youtu.be/hjErH4_1fks
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
I'm curious... I'm an aerospace engineer and carbon fiber is used a lot in our industry. I would like to hear your perspective on how you think a carbon fiber tie rod would hold up to off-roading in the rocks and taking serious abuse. Thoughts???
I am doubting they have tested their carbon fiber tie rod in the rocks. Lol
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