Sprintex 3.6 vs RIPP 3.6
12-24-2016, 08:47 AM
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12-27-2016, 12:29 PM
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Could you clarify what year Wrangler he had, and had he customized his installation/tuning? Something doesn't add up here.
1) We don't offer a 13 psi kit for the 3.6 Wrangler. Our Stage 1 kit produces about 6-7 psi, and our Stage 2 kit produces about 8-9 psi. Various tables in the calibration are only scaled for up to 10 psi. If he's running 13 psi on a 3.6 Wrangler, then that's not a supported configuration, and requires a custom tune to scale various tables properly. Any overheating and transmission shifting issues experienced while over-boosting our kit, or using a custom tune not provided by us, can not be blamed on Prodigy.
2) The closest to 13 psi we offer is our Stage 3 kit for the 3.8 Wrangler, which produces about 12 psi. I suppose it could produce closer to 13 under certain high load situations, so I could see someone slightly exagerrating and claiming 13 psi. But if you raced your 15 psi 3.6 Wrangler against a 12-13 psi 3.8 Wrangler, then that's not a valid comparison at all.
3) We have customers running our turbos in the middle east where daytime temps above 100*F are common. They run hard out on the sand dunes there. No over-heating issues. I personally run my Jeep hard out on the sand dunes in Michigan in the summer with no overheating issues. There must be something else causing his over-heating issues besides the turbo. Possibly an after-market grill with reduced airflow to the radiator? Winch and lights blocking airflow to the radiator? And plenty of other reasons unrelated to the turbo that could cause over-heating issues. It needs to be properly diagnosed rather than assuming it's caused by the turbo.
4) Pretty much all the FI kits out there for the 3.6 Wrangler have had automatic transmission shifting issues in one form or another, especially with earlier revisions of the tunes. The tunes from all FI manufacturers have improved over time with more testing/tuning, data logs from customers, etc. If he was legitimately running a an un-altered turbo system with our tune and had shifting issues, then he likely had an out-dated version of the tune and should contact us to get the latest revision. It's also possible that he didn't have his tire size and axle ratios properly calibrated, which can cause incorrect calculations in the torque management system and affect shifting behavior.
~Jeff
1) We don't offer a 13 psi kit for the 3.6 Wrangler. Our Stage 1 kit produces about 6-7 psi, and our Stage 2 kit produces about 8-9 psi. Various tables in the calibration are only scaled for up to 10 psi. If he's running 13 psi on a 3.6 Wrangler, then that's not a supported configuration, and requires a custom tune to scale various tables properly. Any overheating and transmission shifting issues experienced while over-boosting our kit, or using a custom tune not provided by us, can not be blamed on Prodigy.
2) The closest to 13 psi we offer is our Stage 3 kit for the 3.8 Wrangler, which produces about 12 psi. I suppose it could produce closer to 13 under certain high load situations, so I could see someone slightly exagerrating and claiming 13 psi. But if you raced your 15 psi 3.6 Wrangler against a 12-13 psi 3.8 Wrangler, then that's not a valid comparison at all.
3) We have customers running our turbos in the middle east where daytime temps above 100*F are common. They run hard out on the sand dunes there. No over-heating issues. I personally run my Jeep hard out on the sand dunes in Michigan in the summer with no overheating issues. There must be something else causing his over-heating issues besides the turbo. Possibly an after-market grill with reduced airflow to the radiator? Winch and lights blocking airflow to the radiator? And plenty of other reasons unrelated to the turbo that could cause over-heating issues. It needs to be properly diagnosed rather than assuming it's caused by the turbo.
4) Pretty much all the FI kits out there for the 3.6 Wrangler have had automatic transmission shifting issues in one form or another, especially with earlier revisions of the tunes. The tunes from all FI manufacturers have improved over time with more testing/tuning, data logs from customers, etc. If he was legitimately running a an un-altered turbo system with our tune and had shifting issues, then he likely had an out-dated version of the tune and should contact us to get the latest revision. It's also possible that he didn't have his tire size and axle ratios properly calibrated, which can cause incorrect calculations in the torque management system and affect shifting behavior.
~Jeff
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01-25-2017, 03:41 PM
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I installed mine with 1000 miles on it
01-25-2017, 04:42 PM
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