We usually get alot of thumbs up and nods from cops while driving doorless. But I know if I was 16 and driving a doorless jeep with tires sticking out, I would get pulled over. My friends and I always got hassled when we were younger for inspection violations. Now that we are all older, the cops seem to ignore us for inspection stuff.

 

I live in nj but take trips to pa i never knw that. You can ride a motorcycle in pa with no helmet but you cant ride a jeep with no doors? Pa sucks

 

i think in Virginia the flares have to cover at least half the width of the tires. i agree with it.

 

You're mixing apples and oranges here.
Fenders are by definitation, " the US English term for the part of an automobile, motorcycle or other vehicle, that attaches to the vehicle body and frames a wheel well".

Fender requirements are outlined in the Pa vehicle code for inspection as follows:
§ 175.77. Body.
(b) Fenders. The wheels of a vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with fenders of a type used as original equipment. A tire may not come in contact with the body, fenders or chassis of the vehicle.
These would be inspected under:
§ 175.80. Inspection procedure.
(ii) The fenders are not of a type and size used as original equipment.

Fender flares on the other hand would be "anything attached to the fender that would flare or skirt out to increase the size". We can see an example here attached to the fender of a TJ:
Attachment 15981
These flares are covered under Pa code;
§ 175.77. Body.
(e) Fender flares. A vehicle may be equipped with fender flares not to exceed 3 inches.

We can see by the letter of the law, all aftermarket fenders that do not meet the OEM specifications would be cause for rejection. This however is hardly ever done in Pa. that I know of.

§ 175.80. Inspection procedure.
(a) External inspection. An external inspection shall be performed as follows:

(6) Check fenders, hood and trunk lid and reject if one or more of the following apply:
(ii) The fenders are not of a type and size used as original equipment.


How much rubber outside these fenders or fenders and flares are covered under another section of the code;

§ 175.80. Inspection procedure.
(e) Beneath the vehicle inspection. A beneath the vehicle inspection shall be performed as follows

(1) Inspect the tires and wheels and reject if one or more of the following apply:

(ix) A tire’s tread extends beyond the outer edge of the wheel housing inclusive of fender flares.

In accordance with the Pa. code it looks to me like one could add some type of flare to the existing OEM fender and increase the overall size 3", although I don't think it would look good at all, and you might draw some stares and questions from law enforcement officers.

 

Don't know why the attachment never came up but here is attachment 15981

 

In alberta, your tires cant stick out more than 2"s. Which sucks!

I am guilty of receiving a flare/mud flap/window tint ticket one more than 1 occation...

 

Oh and its not illegal to drive without a top or doors. That truely is a strange law...

 

Just because you could get a ticket for something doesn't mean you will. In PA they have rediculous fender flair laws and you can get a ticket for no doors.

Most cops will probably do nothing on either violation... but all you need is the one cop who's wife left him for that guy in the Jeep with 38s and you're in trouble.

 

Although Pa. laws may seem rediculous to some, it is the law non the less, and the police officers are people non the less. With that said it also has to do with the area. Here in Lancaster County, I've seen and heard about many pulled over for tires sticking out past the fenders, or in some cases flares, and is most likely a good idea, since a stone hitting the windshield while traveling behind some fool whose tires stick out 3" past the protection area could ruin a good day.
On the other hand I've heard of very few driving Jeeps without doors, and seen even less pulled over for this reason. Again, they are both illegal by the law, however the police seem a little more leinient when it comes to having the doors off.
As far as the OP, I do beilieve his post was about the laws in the state, and not as to whether any believed the laws were stupid or rediculous.

 

Can't we all just get along.