Notices
Modified JK Tech Tech related bulletin board forum regarding subjects such as suspension, tires & wheels, steering, bumpers, skid plates, drive train, cages, on-board air and other useful modifications that will help improve the performance and protection of your Jeep JK Wrangler (Rubicon, Sahara, Unlimited and X) on the trail.

PLEASE DO NOT START SHOW & TELL TYPE THREADS IN THIS FORUM

Why does the front driveshaft have to be replaced?

Thread Tools
 
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 10:50 PM
  #1  
style_front's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
From: hawaii
Default Why does the front driveshaft have to be replaced?

Is it because it rubs on the transmission skid or because the severe angles when drooped are not good for the factory joints?
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 10:56 PM
  #2  
wayoflife's Avatar
JK-Forum Founder
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 36,534
Likes: 16
From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Default

it only really needs to be changed if you have an automatic and only because the spline shaft boot will catch on the lip of the tranny sump pan and tear. not that big of a deal but that will allow the grease inside to dry out and that can lead to squeaking.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:08 PM
  #3  
style_front's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
From: hawaii
Default

Originally Posted by wayoflife
it only really needs to be changed if you have an automatic and only because the spline shaft boot will catch on the lip of the tranny sump pan and tear. not that big of a deal but that will allow the grease inside to dry out and that can lead to squeaking.
Thats kind of what I thought, so if I just hack my stock unit then it's good to go (I have an automatic)? Better yet, what about those under armor kits? If I am going to spend 500 on a drive shaft I could probly just spend 700 and get a complete belly kit, no......... Is there any rubbing issues with the aftermarket skid replacements?
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:15 PM
  #4  
wayoflife's Avatar
JK-Forum Founder
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 36,534
Likes: 16
From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Default

Originally Posted by style_front
Thats kind of what I thought, so if I just hack my stock unit then it's good to go (I have an automatic)? Better yet, what about those under armor kits? If I am going to spend 500 on a drive shaft I could probly just spend 700 and get a complete belly kit, no......... Is there any rubbing issues with the aftermarket skid replacements?
"hack your stock unit"? hack what??

regarding skids, the problem is NOT with the skids but rather, the lip of your automatic sump pan (as in, were the atf is held) where it mates up to the transmission. installing aftermarket skids won't do squat to help prevent the tearing of the spline shaft boot and i would add, are completely unnecessary on a jk. the factory skids are more than adequate.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:18 PM
  #5  
style_front's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
From: hawaii
Default

Originally Posted by wayoflife
"hack your stock unit"? hack what??

regarding skids, the problem is NOT with the skids but rather, the lip of your automatic sump pan (as in, were the atf is held) where it mates up to the transmission. installing aftermarket skids won't do squat to help prevent the tearing of the spline shaft boot and i would add, are completely unnecessary on a jk. the factory skids are more than adequate.
K, gonna go in my garage and look at what you are saying

For some reason I thought it was a matter of the shaft boot tearing off on the transmission skid hence hacking the stock skid to allow it to flex.....
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:22 PM
  #6  
wayoflife's Avatar
JK-Forum Founder
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 36,534
Likes: 16
From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Default

Originally Posted by style_front
K, gonna go in my garage and look at what you are saying

For some reason I thought it was a matter of the shaft boot tearing off on the transmission skid hence hacking the stock skid to allow it to flex.....
you and everyone else but that is not the case. if you have 3" of lift or more, your drive shaft will swipe over and make contact with your tranny at a droop and that's what does the damage.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:31 PM
  #7  
MBATF's Avatar
Sponsoring Vendor
Alpha Expedition
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,365
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by wayoflife
you and everyone else but that is not the case. if you have 3" of lift or more, your drive shaft will swipe over and make contact with your tranny at a droop and that's what does the damage.
Yeap! And its no fun to have a broken (twisted for stock) driveshaft on the trail.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:32 PM
  #8  
style_front's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
From: hawaii
Default

I'm not gonna lie, I didn't see it. It was close but didn't look like a contact point. Also considering the track bar bolts to the body on the drivers side the more the front axle droops the further away from the transmission it travels. I think I am going to put it on the lift and take another look because sitting flat on the ground wasn't very revealing.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:41 PM
  #9  
style_front's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
From: hawaii
Default

Originally Posted by wayoflife
it only really needs to be changed if you have an automatic and only because the spline shaft boot will catch on the lip of the tranny sump pan and tear. not that big of a deal but that will allow the grease inside to dry out and that can lead to squeaking.
Man I totally read this but saw what I wanted, lol.


Selective reading if you will. You directly said transmission sump pan and then I started babbling about the skid plate again, lol. Sorry WOL. It might be passed my bedtime
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:44 PM
  #10  
MBATF's Avatar
Sponsoring Vendor
Alpha Expedition
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,365
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by style_front
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't see it. It was close but didn't look like a contact point. Also considering the track bar bolts to the body on the drivers side the more the front axle droops the further away from the transmission it travels. I think I am going to put it on the lift and take another look because sitting flat on the ground wasn't very revealing.
If the flex with your P side tire tucked in and driverside tire dropped. Then the stock OEM front shaft will go closer to the tranny. And don't forget that your vehicle will have lateral movements on the trails since the parts like the frame, control arm bushings & etc will all flex a little and all adds up.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:02 AM.