Newbie Question about 4.10s
I recently bought a set of 33x12.50 Baja Claws and I love them, but the 3.21's in my diff's have got to go. I'm not planning on going to 35's anytime soon and since I drive a ton of highway miles (I have the 6-spd) I've been trying to find a set of used 4.10s. I've been looking for a while and I'm not having much luck at all. I ran across a website called Just Differentials and saw that they have 4.11's for our jeeps.
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
I recently bought a set of 33x12.50 Baja Claws and I love them, but the 3.21's in my diff's have got to go. I'm not planning on going to 35's anytime soon and since I drive a ton of highway miles (I have the 6-spd) I've been trying to find a set of used 4.10s. I've been looking for a while and I'm not having much luck at all. I ran across a website called Just Differentials and saw that they have 4.11's for our jeeps.
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
I recently bought a set of 33x12.50 Baja Claws and I love them, but the 3.21's in my diff's have got to go. I'm not planning on going to 35's anytime soon and since I drive a ton of highway miles (I have the 6-spd) I've been trying to find a set of used 4.10s. I've been looking for a while and I'm not having much luck at all. I ran across a website called Just Differentials and saw that they have 4.11's for our jeeps.
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
I just wanted to know if anyone else has ordered from that site and if I were to order from them, what all would I need to install the gears. They offer 4.11's reverse cut for the D30 and 4.11s standard cut for the D44. Also, they have the standard open carrier for sale that I would need for the D30. Am I missing anything else besides the install kits for both? Oh and do I need a standard install kit that runs about $100 or do I need a "master" install kit that's more expensive around $200?
Sorry for all the questions. Just thought I'd try and get everything covered in one post. Thanks for all the input!
Last edited by Adam3612; Jul 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM.
I'm not one of them. I am only marginally happy with the 4.10s and 33s. Around town no problem. Typical Oklahoma highway driving they're .. okay. Throw in some wind or a grade, and it sucks bad. I hate when some butt-hole in a Harley-Davidson F-150 POS tailgates me at less than five feet when I'm trying to pass someone at 75 MPH and b-hole supreme just won't give me a break. There just isn't any "oomph" to make the push when you throw in a grade and wind. And this is with a six speed. If you have an auto, the situation is even worse--go lower even. If I was paying someone to install the gears, I'd buy 4.88s for 33s or for 35s (since the 4.56s are nay impossible to find). The gear cost is insignificant compared to the install cost. And, although I've done all the work on my Jeep thus far, and have a fair amount of shadetree mechanic's experience in my six decades on planet Earth, I wouldn't attempt a gear install myself unless I was with someone I trusted to do the job right.
Last edited by Mark Doiron; Jul 16, 2010 at 01:25 PM.
Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm going to go ahead and order those parts from JustDifferentials. I know I'm not going to throw 35's on there for at least another couple years and for the amount of highway driving I do I think 4.10's will be a good balance. Adam, if you don't mind giving me that Jason guy's extension I'd appreciate it. In case I have some questions and what not, it'd be nice to a number to call. Thanks
I'm not one of them. I am only marginally happy with the 4.10s and 33s. Around town no problem. Typical Oklahoma highway driving they're .. okay. Throw in some wind or a grade, and it sucks bad. I hate when some butt-hole in a Harley-Davidson F-150 POS tailgates me at less than five feet when I'm trying to pass someone at 75 MPH and b-hole supreme just won't give me a break. There just isn't any "oomph" to make the push when you throw in a grade and wind. And this is with a six speed. If you have an auto, the situation is even worse--go lower even. If I was paying someone to install the gears, I'd buy 4.88s for 33s or for 35s (since the 4.56s are nay impossible to find). The gear cost is insignificant compared to the install cost. And, although I've done all the work on my Jeep thus far, and have a fair amount of shadetree mechanic's experience in my six decades on planet Earth, I wouldn't attempt a gear install myself unless I was with someone I trusted to do the job right.
Trending Topics
So you can imagine how I feel with 3.21's and 33's, 6th gear is useless and 5th can maintain speed on an incline MOST times. I feel like 4.10's are going to put me where I want to be and give me a good balance between power and mileage, that and they're a factory/OE gear set which for whatever reason makes me feel a little more comfortable than going with 4.88's etc. FWIW one or two of our forum sponsors have 4.56's in stock or at least they did a cpl of weeks ago.
I just put 4.88's on TODAY with 33's that are down to 31.9". It is a TON better, though I am rolling 3100 RPM's at 75 MPH. I would not get 4.10's. If you are going to spend the money, I would get 4.88's if you have a true 33, or maybe 4.56 if you have a 31.9" 33. I think you will be disappointed in a 4.10 gearing.







