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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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I have a 2010 JK. I put a 2inch puck lift in and today took it to the tire shop to get the alinement checked. They told me I need a Cam Kit to adjust. Does this make sense?
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Don't do it. I had to install cam bolts bc I was in a hurry and didn't have time to wait for lca's to get shipped(long story). Cam bolts will adjust your castor but they are not very reliable. They can shift or come loose and cause damage. Get a set of adjustable control arms. Upper or lower, IMO lower offers more adjustment. Also, if u get cam bolts and decide to get lca's you will need to weld up your mounts due to the cuts in them from the cam bolt install.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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as mentioned, don't do it. if you really feel that you need more positive caster, adjustable lower control arms is the better way to go.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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I was under the impression with the budget boost I would not have to mess with anything else.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OIIIO
I was under the impression with the budget boost I would not have to mess with anything else.
most people dontneeed it. every jeep is different.

if your jeep drives good then dont do it.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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i put the teraflex leveling kit. wich is spacers front and rear and i didnt get an alignment and it drives jsut fine
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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3 inch skyjacker and its very flighty in stearing I will go with adjustable longarm setup in future DO NOT GO WITH CAM ADJUSTMENTS!
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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Thanks for your input, I took it on the Highway at 140km just a little while ago. It rides fine. No pull or sway. I just wanted to make sure I would be safe at highway speeds, that's why I took it in to the Tire specialist to check it for me. They suggested and I told them I would look into it. They did not charge me for their time, nor did they charge me for tire rotation and balance. Cool. I will see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by OIIIO
I was under the impression with the budget boost I would not have to mess with anything else.
That is correct. You don't have to mess with anything else. Some folks, however, find that the steering is too flighty for their taste. This is caused because you've lost some caster when you lifted the Jeep. Think of a set of caster wheels on the front of a shopping cart--the wheels that are offset from their pivot point on the frame. When you push the cart they fall back behind that pivot point to trail it in the direction of you pushing the cart. Caster on a vehicle is very similar and when there isn't enough the wheels tend to lose "steering feel"--just as the rear wheels on a shopping cart tend to spin around sometimes (note that they are not offset from the pivot point).

There are two ways to fix the flightiness: Cam bolts or adjustable control arms. Cam bolts are eccentric cut-outs that allow the axle to move as the bolt is turned. They have very limited adjustment and are subject to coming lose when under severe strain (off-roading). Because cam bolts are cut-outs, their removal (should one decide to go to LCAs) requires welding up the eccentric hole created for the cam bolt. An upper or lower control arm can be lengthened or shortened to adjust the caster, too. The lowers provide more adjustment room (but are more expensive). Most folks find that a set of adjustable lower control arms allow them to get a good caster setting with good steering feel (About 6 degrees usually does the trick, which is not factory spec, so an alignment shop will need to know what setting you want).
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
That is correct. You don't have to mess with anything else. Some folks, however, find that the steering is too flighty for their taste. This is caused because you've lost some caster when you lifted the Jeep. Think of a set of caster wheels on the front of a shopping cart--the wheels that are offset from their pivot point on the frame. When you push the cart they fall back behind that pivot point to trail it in the direction of you pushing the cart. Caster on a vehicle is very similar and when there isn't enough the wheels tend to lose "steering feel"--just as the rear wheels on a shopping cart tend to spin around sometimes (note that they are not offset from the pivot point).

There are two ways to fix the flightiness: Cam bolts or adjustable control arms. Cam bolts are eccentric cut-outs that allow the axle to move as the bolt is turned. They have very limited adjustment and are subject to coming lose when under severe strain (off-roading). Because cam bolts are cut-outs, their removal (should one decide to go to LCAs) requires welding up the eccentric hole created for the cam bolt. An upper or lower control arm can be lengthened or shortened to adjust the caster, too. The lowers provide more adjustment room (but are more expensive). Most folks find that a set of adjustable lower control arms allow them to get a good caster setting with good steering feel (About 6 degrees usually does the trick, which is not factory spec, so an alignment shop will need to know what setting you want).
He said it best!
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