I know the book tells all of the degree angles you should and/or should not take... but does anyone have any pics of some good angles??

I will turn around sometimes and there is that point where your adrenaline starts to go because you are leaning (what seems like alot) a good bit.

Pictures of some serious leans would be great if anyone has them... that way i can compare what is safe or not.


btw... i run 2.5" lift with 33"


thanks!

 

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You might need a flame suit for this one. But, really it is more a matter of experience and conditions. Have had 4x4s tipped so far over I could practically kiss the ground, and driven away, never rolling once. But turn the tires the wrong way or hit the gas and you are over. Certainly over 30 degrees starts to get pucker going, but there is no set rule. Go slow, and gather experience. Most roll overs I see are yahoos pounding away hopelessly at an obstacle, unwilling to give up. Followed by in-experienced wheelers making simple mistakes such as turning away from a roll instead of into it, driving too high on a hill to avoid a drop off on the other side, too much gas, ect.

 

you mean, turning away from the roll, rather then turning into i hope...turning into the roll would cause you to roll, turning away from it would make you become more stable.

Here is a cool video, check it out...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=8

 

Thats just straight up skilled driving, He handled that perfectly! That could have been a nasty roll down that dune.

 

How do you figure that turning into a roll would cause you to roll? If you're on an angle with your driver's side angled downwards towards the ground, and your passenger's side angled upwards away from the ground, you're saying that you should steer to the passenger side... hmmm...

Here's what'd happen in the above scenario: You turn the wheels toward the passenger side (away from the roll), give it gas, and then the natural weight transfer that occurs when your vehicle is underway would push the weight of the Jeep toward the roll, thus causing a roll...

Whereas, if you steered towards the roll, the weight transfer (and resistance of the tires facing into the roll) would shift the weight toward the passenger side, which is in no danger of rolling...

SO, you SHOULD steer toward the roll.

 

i am comfortable driving off road... my question was more directed towards... with the JK's what is the approximate angle of tip... standard conditions just driving sideways on a hill with good traction.

what degree angle do you think it would take to simply roll over without any other force acting on it (rocks, mud, ruts, etc.)? I know that you are not supposed to drive sideways... and i further understand that trails are seldom, if ever, constant in this respect, but i would just like to get a basic idea. This is my second jeep, and before i try something more difficult, i like to have a general idea of what i am getting into... prior to getting into it.

for example:
[me standing on a trail trying to figure out why my wheels are not on the ground] "maybe i should have posted on JK-forum.com before I picked that particular line and takin advantage of those with more knowledge than i have"

 

Too many variables to figure it out.............There are testing facilities with moving platforms, but even those only give you the degree if conditions were perfect.

You will just have to gain experience behind the wheel and learn your vehicle. If your worried about a certain spot being too steep of an angle, dont try it, or get someone to run a winch line to you to keep you from laying your Jeep over while you drive through the "tough" section.

 

I hear you. The brochure says 40 degrees for a stock JK, but given your higher COG due to lift and tires, I'd play it safe and stay in the 25-30 degree range. Ideally, you'll not maintain a sideways driving angle, as a somewhat minor obstacle could throw you off-balance and into trouble.

Having said that, I encountered some pretty extreme conditions at the Badlands off-road park, and thought I was going to roll for sure, but made it out without a problem... Use common sense, err on the side of caution, and you should be fine!

 

I don't know the angle, but the below picture was enough to make me wish I had my hard top and doors off to lower my COG. The truck was tippy. I crossed 2 "golden crack" , but smaller, type obstacles at this angle and definately had sweaty palms.