I recently took interest in the Overland edition by Mopar Underground from 2009. I would really like to build up my Jeep like that. (yes I know I have a 2dr but that should be ok).

Does anybody have any stats or information on what they actually did to it? I know it was built on a stock 4door rubicon. My concern is a combination of things.

Does anybody have or tried the roof rack tent on a 2door? Pics? What type of rack would possibly work best? I'm not destroying my hard top or figuring out how to do it with my soft top. I'm going to try and build something up with my soft top being the primary top since im not running around in a desert area or any harsh environments really so I will not need the protection that a hard top provides.

My next question is what type of lift do they have on there because the few stats I did read said it had 35in km2 tires with a 2in lift from Mopar while others say it has a 3 in lift. Then, I saw that it has Mopar "winter" rims that are 17x7.5. All the km2 tires that are 35 in seem like they are at least 10 to 12in wide. Will that work on a 7.5in rim? I don't plan on deflating the tire to the point where it would risk popping off the bead. Is the front axle going to be a problem with such big tires?

I don't want to use a budget boost with spacers i want a coil spring lift and I dont want to use spacers on the wheel for it to work because that puts more stress on the other suspension parts. My plan is keeping it as close to stock as possible without running the risk of damaging more parts in the long term. I understand a regear is probably going to have to be done as well if 35in tires are going to be put on there.

I know these are a lot of noobie type questions but I realllllly don't want to dick around with repairing parts that break because of the modifications I put on there.

I guess some direction would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!!

 

How does a wheel spacer put more stress on the other suspension parts?

As far as the hub on back it shouldn't be able to tell if you are using a spacer or a wheel with different back spacing. As far as the wheel is concerned it shouldn't have a clue about the presence of the spacer either.

I'm not saying you should use a spacer, I am just saying don't rule it out because you think it might change the suspension forces somehow.

 

The reason I feel the spacer puts more stress on it because it changes the geometry of how the axle and joints support the weight because you're putting more stress on the outside of the axle I feel like it can lead to worn ball joins and the other components of the steering/suspension/drivetrain parts.

 

I know how to solve this. Your both right. The hubs do place extra stress on the bearings and suspension. But not any more than a wheel with the same spacing.

 

I've run wheel spacers on my TJ for 10 years without any problems. I've run them on my JKU for 3 years without any problems.

Jeep factory builds use RE lifts because they are the "Mopar" supplier. If the lift shows factory springs, it would be a 2" lift. If the lift has gray RE springs, it is probably the 3.5" lift.


I didn't see if you have a Rubicon already, or if you're running the D30 front end. 35's on a D30 will require at least some upgrades.

Good luck! It's nice to hear ideas of people trying something different.

 

So then I guess there is no way around it however it seems like on the Overland the backspacing on those rims appears to be stock and can stuff those 35in tires inside there without the tire sticking past the fender and I highly doubt the Mopar team allowed for any rubbing even at full flex (unless its extreme articulation) with the discos disconnected so that's where my question rolls into play. Are the rims really 7.5in wide? do they really have 35in tires? is the lift 2 or 3 in? I guess getting as close or dead onto that build up would be my best option seeing as how Overlanding is supposed to be as simple as possible to help avoid future breakdowns for complicated lifts and increase the speed at which something can be repaired because it is less complicated.

 

I have a bone stock ( for now ) 2008 sahara model with the d44 rear and whatever the stock front is...d35?

 

In case anybody wants a head start for helping me research this is what I am talking about for a build up.

http://jeepin.com/news/wrangler-overland

 

That has been my build model. This is what I know:

Suspension: Originally was Rubicon Express, but several people have swapped for AEV 3.5" Premium

Front Bumper: AEV Premium Bumper

Hood: AEV Hood

Rear Bumper: AEV Rear Bumper with Tire carrier

Rear Corner Guards: AEV Rear Corner guards, but with an added bar (These haven't been released yet so far as I have found)

Winch: Warn 9.5ti

Tires: BF Goodrich 35” All Terrain Tires

 

Yeah that takes care of the lift either RE or AEV but then if im going up to a 3.5 since im in a 2dr are we talking drive shaft swaps now also since I have a 2 door. Maybe I should stick with 33in tires and a 2in lift to compensate a little for the lack of two extra doors and longer shaft "hehe"

Then my only concern is the sagging of suspension with the rack, tent, bumpers.

I could care less about the corner guards there are other brands out there that do the exact same thing along with the brush guards for the lights.

I also have another question then. I recently bought some stock 17in rims from untold (funny guy by the way) they look like the rubicon rims but powder coated but if I did want to put 33" tires on there what size would be the best for width at 33" without any rubbing and a mild 2" coil spring lift?