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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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We are installing our body armor this weekend on our 2013 Jk and we are wondering if anyone else has come across this issue when you were installing your armor along the bottom when you go to use the nut serter did you have trouble getting them to go in, as we are having ours hit the cab of the jeep and what did you do to solve the problem? Did you have to drill into your jeep farther ? any tips or tricks would be appreciated because they didn't say anything on the instructions about the lower area and the nuts not going in. Thanks!!
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Love to her the responses...I'll be installing mine in the next couple of weeks and those nut-serts are giving me anxiety
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Keep drilling or you can collapse the nut sert when it is hanging half way out if it is hitting another piece of sheet metal and it should, as a nut sert does, collapse in the middle becoming shorter all together.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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The only thing you should worry over is having the body armor align with the holes drilled in your jeep after you installed the nut serts. I held the armor up to the body and used a whole punch to find the middle of all the holes to drill. I'm sure there are better methods, but this worked well for me. I stepped up drill bits after that and when you get to the bigger drill bits you have to be careful that the drill does not get away from you.

Good clamps help a lot! This is what I bought. $60 each, but well worth it.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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What do you mean by "hit the cab" and where on your JK are you having this problem?
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Housing
Keep drilling or you can collapse the nut sert when it is hanging half way out if it is hitting another piece of sheet metal and it should, as a nut sert does, collapse in the middle becoming shorter all together.
From what I've read this is what should be done. Collapse the nutsert a little at a time. Hopefully you have a good nutsert tool. I haven't installed these in particular, but I've read a lot about installing these cause I want some. There simple to drill out, and I'm pretty sure the directions I've read, not sure which manufacter, but I've read to start collapsing them where they hit the inside part of the tub.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Edit: This was for Corner armor.

I think he is talking about near the bottom of the B pillar where you drill through the sheet metal.
There are 2 spots where you will hit metal about 1cm into the hole and the nutsert wont fit in all the way.
I just drilled past it and it worked perfectly.
Are you doing the extended armor on a 2door?


NOTE: When you get all your nutserts in and you are trying to do the final install of your armor DO NOT force any of the bolts if they dont go in fairly easy.
Unless the holes are lined up PERFECTLY it will be likely the some of the bolts will be difficult. (They may try to go in at an angle)
There is pretty much zero tolerance between the size of the hole in the armor and the size of the allen head bolt. (if it doesn't line it up you will not be able to force it.)

After installing one side I ended up spinning a nutsert which turned into a huge headache. Drilling them out sucked, once they are loose they just spin on drill bit and go nowhere. I had to grind off the front lip and push them inside.
I wanted to avoid this on the other side so I drilled out the holes in the armor just slightly larger and they went on super smooth. (The head on the bolts are plenty big and cover the drilled out hole completely.)

Also to anyone else wanting to install these. Do yourself a huge favor and get an actual nutsert install tool.. you will be doing 40 nutserts. Its worth it.
I went over to grainger and picked up this one. Works great http://www.grainger.com/product/WEST...UW5?s_pp=false

good luck!

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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JKJon
I think he is talking about near the bottom of the B pillar where you drill through the sheet metal.
There are 2 spots where you will hit metal about 1cm into the hole and the nutsert wont fit in all the way.
I just drilled past it and it worked perfectly.
Are you doing the extended armor on a 2door?


NOTE: When you get all your nutserts in and you are trying to do the final install of your armor DO NOT force any of the bolts if they dont go in fairly easy.
Unless the holes are lined up PERFECTLY it will be likely the some of the bolts will be difficult. (They may try to go in at an angle)
There is pretty much no tolerance between the size of the hole in the armor and the size of the allen head bolt. (if it doesn't line it up you will not be able to force it)

After installing one side I ended up spinning a nutsert which turned into a huge headache. Drilling them out sucked, once they are loose they just spin the on drill bit and go nowhere. I had to grind off the front lip and push them inside.

I wanted to avoid this on the other side so I drilled out the holes in the armor just slightly larger and they went on super smooth. (The head on the bolts are plenty big and cover the drilled out hole completely.)

good luck!
WHat did you do when you spun the nut? We have that problem and it is frustrating!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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I took a dremel and ground off the lip of the nutsert and just pushed it inside into the foam. You can also try to pull it out with some needle nose.
Once you get the lip off it has no tension holding it in there. Just keep at it you'll get it out
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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I believe I read in another thread that PSC recommends you bang the inner sheet metal in to dimple it so the nutsert will fit better. They do not recommend drilling into the inner metal wall, but I did anyway when I installed mine (on my 08 and again on my 2013). Just used some touch up paint on the holes, installed nutsert, and everything mounted fine. Click image for larger version

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This is simply what I did. I'm not suggesting you follow it, but this worked for me. Using something to bang & dimple the inner metal without having to drill extra holes (before installing the nutsert - do not hammer the nutsert in to make space) is a good alternative (and recommended by the manufacturer).

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