ok I have got it narrowed down to 2 lifts, which one is better and what do i need for both of them (drop pitman arm, shocks, ect...)

 

lol guess no one cares

 

Dude.... relax just a little. Less than an hour is not that long to wait before you think people are ignoring you. I have a Black Diamond 3" lift on my Rubicon unlimited and I like it. You will need to address the rear trackbar relocation bracket issue, as the way it is shipped it will put too much stress on the stock bracket and many have broken off because of this. You can deal with it several ways. I simply welded reinforcements on mine and have had no issues whatsoever, and I do wheel it ! There are a few companies that make bolt on reinforcements as well. There are other trackbar relocation brackets that come off the frame instead of the axle and these don't seem to pose a problem. And you could just get an adjustable trackbar to do away with any relocation brackets all together. The Black Diamond rated very well in a shootout against many much more expensive brands and my experience has backed this up. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

 

Black diamond hands down. they won a suspension shootout by Petersons 4 wheel and offroad. They also include a front adjustable trackbar. THe rough country has track bar brackets and is not as complete. Do a little more research on the two's website and you will see. Black Diamond all the way!

 

does the black diamond include shocks? if not which ones do you recommend and is it worth it to get the nitro shocks?

 

That is a whole different debate (nitro vs hydro) I have nitro and the control is absolutely awesome. I love the them. The hydro will give you a softer ride but it depends on the valving.

If you but the complete kit with AT shocks from northridge4x4 you will be very happy. There are some people on here running them and they love them.

I will be going with the black diamond kit and NITRO shocks when I get another SUV for my wife. I have to keep it small to make everyone happy for the time being.

 

I bought the Full traction M-Force shocks and I like em !