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Help me decide and are there any issues I may encounter? Nittos TG, Toyo OC, ProComp

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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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Default Help me decide and are there any issues I may encounter? Nittos TG, Toyo OC, ProComp

Hey Y'all help me decide and what are the pros and cons of each? I'm trying to decide between Nitto Trail Grapplers, Toyo Open Country's or the ProComp MT tires. I'm looking at 35X12.5X17's.

Currently have the Old Man Emu 2" lift with HD springs up front and the SD springs in the rear which puts the Jeep pretty level (it's a 2-DR). I'm eyeing either the ProComp 7089 or 7069 wheels in flat back. These would be on 17X9 rims. Will I experience any issues rubbing on full radius turns with these wheels (4.75" back spacing) on 35X12.5X17's?

Shoot away and anyone with the same set up, would you mind sharing some photos? Thanks in advance folks...
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 05:05 AM
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I'm not sure about the rubbing part but if those were my only options in tires I think I would go with the trail grapplers over the other 2 choices. Toyos are extremely heavy and pro comps didn't work as well for me as trail grapplers have
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 05:32 AM
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Pretty sure you are going to rub somewhere with 4.75" of BS. Ideaaly you need 4.5 or less to clear everything. May need to limit your steering a bit.

The trail grapps and Toys are very similar. Toyo owns Nitto I believe (they are related somehow). I've heard the toyos use a harder compound but again, it's what I read on the internet! Both are great tires. Yes, the toyos are heavy with a load rage E but they run fine at 28-30psi with low road noise. And you can air them down a ton on non-beadlock wheels. I go down to 8psi with zero issues. The trail grapps are offered in a lighter load range I believe so you don't have to air down as much to get good flex. Overall tire design between the two is very similar.

can't say much on the Procomps but I know people that had run other models of procomps (Xteraain) and loved them.

In reality.....most m/t tires do well off road and Ok on road so the major differences you may see is road noise (Toyos and Trail grapps are some of the quietest) and maybe how well they perform in ice/rain/snow. If there is good siping like the Toyos have, they do well until the siping wears down due to use. Buy what you can get the best deal on as they won't make a huge difference to wheeling capabilities. You won't see a major improvement until you go with a bias type tire which are used more for dedicated trail rigs.


edit** I went with Toyos over the grapps due to cost. was originally planning on the grapps until I found that everyone buying them ran the prices on them through the roof. They used to be much cheaper than Toyos but I grabbed 315/75/16 Toyos for $280 a piece vs $340 a piece for the Nittos. it was a no brainer! Prices on tires will vary dramatically based on demand (not supply). The trail grapp is not better than the Toyo and sure as hell not worth 20% more! Not sure on current pricing but keep that in mind.

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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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I don't think 35s would rub with -6 offset.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by steel pirate
I don't think 35s would rub with -6 offset.
My 315/70/17 Duratracs (less than 35") on 4.5" of back space rubbed. Although, it was only the front air dam - easy fix, just pull it off).

To the OP, in the Nittos, you'll want to load range D tires, which are the 315/70/17. The 35s are load range E and that will be a stiff ride. I'd bet your wheel would be fine with the 315 Nittos.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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noob question.... I have ProComp 1089 wheels which came with the Jeep when I purchased it. Is the only way to know if they are 4.5 or 4.75 bs to measure the wheel, or is it shown somewhere?
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RioJK
noob question.... I have ProComp 1089 wheels which came with the Jeep when I purchased it. Is the only way to know if they are 4.5 or 4.75 bs to measure the wheel, or is it shown somewhere?
IF you have 17inch rims it will depend on the width of them for your backspacing. From looking on 4wheelparts website the 8inch wide are 4.50 and the 9inch wide are 4.75




Also OP go with Trail grapplers. I have them and love em.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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I personally sold the toyo m/t since it was developed in the early to mid 90's they use a higher carbon ratio and more steel great for cut and chip resistance but very heavy yes nitto is a second line produced by toyo and we run a lot of the nitto tires here at the shop and on customer vehicles. I have been around the Pro Comp tires but not real confident in them I have seen a couple separate and have runout issues
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