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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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The reason for the post is that I've not found answers to some of the questions I have about winches (especially the newer versions) after doing searches on a few of the forums. So, can someone (or many someone's) provide some input, advantages / disadvantages on the following:

- Synthetic rope vs. steel cable?
- Wireless remote control vs. wired remote control?
- Warranty issues with the manufacturer's (Warn, Ramsey, Smittybilt, etc. etc.)

I have an older Smittybilt, which has served me well, but at my age, there's some issues with lugging the heavy steel rope around. A wireless remote sounds like a good idea, but I have no personal experiences with such. Lastly, I'm leaning toward a new Warn, as there's something to be said about peace-of-mind whilst out on the trail.

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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl
- Synthetic rope vs. steel cable?
Synthetic. Much safer. Lighter. Doesn't rust.
To make the synthetic serve you longer, cover it from hot sun and keep it clean from sand or mud.

- Wireless remote control vs. wired remote control?
I prefer the wired, for added reliability and no dependence on yet another battery.

- Warranty issues with the manufacturer's (Warn, Ramsey, Smittybilt, etc. etc.)
I think you can't go wrong with Warn.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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I think G pretty much covered it. In a wet environment, I prefer wire to rope. If you live in a wet environment, in addition to worrying about UV breaking down your synthetic (you can get UV covers for the outmost spools), there is also a concern with wet rope. You have more maintenance to keep it dry (spool it out, dry it in the sun, again UV, or get a cover), spool it back in under load. Rope is more susceptible to having an abrasive (sand) do damage. But as far as safety, as in a break under load, synthetic trumps wire IMO.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl
The reason for the post is that I've not found answers to some of the questions I have about winches (especially the newer versions) after doing searches on a few of the forums. So, can someone (or many someone's) provide some input, advantages / disadvantages on the following:

- Synthetic rope vs. steel cable?
- Wireless remote control vs. wired remote control?
- Warranty issues with the manufacturer's (Warn, Ramsey, Smittybilt, etc. etc.)

I have an older Smittybilt, which has served me well, but at my age, there's some issues with lugging the heavy steel rope around. A wireless remote sounds like a good idea, but I have no personal experiences with such. Lastly, I'm leaning toward a new Warn, as there's something to be said about peace-of-mind whilst out on the trail.

Thanks for reading, and any input.
Synthetic - Lighter, safer, won't rust.
Wired is more reliable, my remote is both.
I have a Smittybilt - Lifetime warranty - Great option for budget minded folks.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
Synthetic - Lighter, safer, won't rust.
Wired is more reliable, my remote is both.
I have a Smittybilt - Lifetime warranty - Great option for budget minded folks.
How long have you had your Smittybilt? Mine is about 5 years old. No issues thus far. It's been used infrequently, maybe 8 or 9 times over the years.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl
The reason for the post is that I've not found answers to some of the questions I have about winches (especially the newer versions) after doing searches on a few of the forums. So, can someone (or many someone's) provide some input, advantages / disadvantages on the following:

- Synthetic rope vs. steel cable?
- Wireless remote control vs. wired remote control?
- Warranty issues with the manufacturer's (Warn, Ramsey, Smittybilt, etc. etc.)

I have an older Smittybilt, which has served me well, but at my age, there's some issues with lugging the heavy steel rope around. A wireless remote sounds like a good idea, but I have no personal experiences with such. Lastly, I'm leaning toward a new Warn, as there's something to be said about peace-of-mind whilst out on the trail.

Thanks for reading, and any input.
If there is nothing mechanically wrong with your current winch I would just swap the steel for synth rope. If your set on getting a Warn (Mine is 17 years old and still works great) by all means get one. Ive never been in a position where I thought, "Gee this would be easier if I was wireless!" but I guess it couldnt hurt to have one.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob 12B1P
If there is nothing mechanically wrong with your current winch I would just swap the steel for synth rope. If your set on getting a Warn (Mine is 17 years old and still works great) by all means get one. Ive never been in a position where I thought, "Gee this would be easier if I was wireless!" but I guess it couldnt hurt to have one.
More good information. I thought (although I don't know why) that you couldn't swap synthetic for steel. That might be a good option.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Owl
How long have you had your Smittybilt? Mine is about 5 years old. No issues thus far. It's been used infrequently, maybe 8 or 9 times over the years.
Little more than a year. It's the Gen 2 X20. I've used it probably 8 to 10 times. Half of those were for me, half to get someone else unstuck.
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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Owl
More good information. I thought (although I don't know why) that you couldn't swap synthetic for steel. That might be a good option.
Warn -- about synthetic vs steel:
Warn Industries - Synthetic rope vs steel rope: Which one is best?

After being used with steel cable, the drum and fairlead will probably be somewhat scraped or burred, which will harm a synthetic.

The same goes for snatch blocks. They should have never been used with steel, AND should be specified for synthetic. (ARB or MASTER PULL are the best)

It's no a coincidence that so many move over to synthetic.

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Old Nov 14, 2015 | 05:54 AM
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I like Synthetic. Lighter, safer(in my opinion) and easier to handle. Sure maybe it takes a little more care, but I'm ok with that.
I have a Warn, and my rope on my Zeon has a covering on the first several feet so it won't chaff on the drum.
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