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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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I'm not going to wheel super super hard, and trying to put enough $$$ together to Lock my Front D30(OX Trax), Moocho big buck's. That being said, I would like to just have my local alignment shop to put the Cam Bolts in & adjust Caster/Toe. I know some will beat me up for this, but this my decision I'll live with it. And if anyone has a set of (Cam Bolts) they did not use, I'll buy them from you now. Thx. Now go ahead and draw blood on me.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Okay, I have to ask.... why in the world do you have 2.5" coils on the front of your Jeep and not the rear as well? I can only assume that whatever reasons you are wanting/needing to get your caster set is a result of this bizzare nose in the air setup. Is it safe to assume you do not have an adjustable front track bar installed? If not, I would highly recommend you installing one first before you install cam bolts and if there's anyway I can convince you to lower your front end a bit, that would help out a lot as well. If you want to run cam bolts, all I can say is that it's your Jeep and you can do whatever you want. But, before you do, I would suggest that you really try to understand what it is that's causing you to think you need them in the first place and fix the real problem before making a decision that can only make minor to insignificant adjustments at best and isn't very easy to reverse.

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P.S. Unlike TJ's, your JK's tie-rod is not connected to the drag link and therefor is not influenced by a lift. Need I say, you do not need a toe-in adjustment as nothing should have changed inspite of your 2.5" front end lift.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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With only 2.5 lift, you shouldn't need them. I run 2.5 springs with 3/4 spacer in the front and it rides and steers just like whrn I put them on.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
Okay, I have to ask.... why in the world do you have 2.5" coils on the front of your Jeep and not the rear as well? I can only assume that whatever reasons you are wanting/needing to get your caster set is a result of this bizzare nose in the air setup. Is it safe to assume you do not have an adjustable front track bar installed? If not, I would highly recommend you installing one first before you install cam bolts and if there's anyway I can convince you to lower your front end a bit, that would help out a lot as well. If you want to run cam bolts, all I can say is that it's your Jeep and you can do whatever you want. But, before you do, I would suggest that you really try to understand what it is that's causing you to think you need them in the first place and fix the real problem before making a decision that can only make minor to insignificant adjustments at best and isn't very easy to reverse.

Just my 2¢

P.S. Unlike TJ's, your JK's tie-rod is not connected to the drag link and therefor is not influenced by a lift. Need I say, you do not need a toe-in adjustment as nothing should have changed inspite of your 2.5" front end lift.
Got it guy's,..Eddie, first with the 2 1/2' coils up front only, after putting them in I'm measuring 19 3/4" from body weld seam front,> & 19 1/2" rear. I have an 88lb T-Max EWI 10,000 setting here waiting to Fab/Build the Stubby Bumper then install both, total weight of both will be around 140lbs, that will droop the front about 3/4". (I stood on my bumper at 165lbs and my Son measured it at 1" drop). The only reason I didn't think Track bar was what Superlift say's ((((When a vehicle is lifted it shortens the effective length of the track bar, which causes the axle to shift to one side of the vehicle. This is noticeable when a vehicle is lifted four or more inches))).
Now, when I make a turn my steering wheel does not come back to center at all, constant correction left to right(floating/drifts) on highway, one thing good though, the JK doesn't have any hard pull left or right. There is no doubt the steering has a different feel, that was an easy pick for me, and everything I've read(in here) would lead me to think a Caster adjustment was needed . The only reason I said ((Toe)) also, the alignment guy told me that they do it anyway. Guy's, No Cam Bolts, I'll wait ti'll I can afford the Adjustable Control Arms. I'm putting all my spare pennies together right now to get an OX Trax up Front.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Okay, now that you've cleared things up, I'd say to just sit tight and wait until after you get your new bumper and winch installed before you do anything. I'm gonna bet that once they are on and your front end is lower again, everything will start to feel a lot better
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
Okay, now that you've cleared things up, I'd say to just sit tight and wait until after you get your new bumper and winch installed before you do anything. I'm gonna bet that once they are on and your front end is lower again, everything will start to feel a lot better
Belive me or not, when writting my response back to you I was thinking that exact same thing , sometimes this old War beaten brain has some clear thoughts. not often Thx for both of you guy's input, I'll hold tight.......
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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if it doesn't, go ahead and put the cam bolts in, seeing as they are going to adjust them for you. then start saving money for when you bend a control arm, and replace them all then
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