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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Atl JK
That's the dealerships you've taken it to, not Chrysler.
I've run out of dealerships to take it to in my area. Chrysler should still stand behind their product and okay the repair. Both of the dealerships I went to had transmission techs who I talked to and they both told me that the shift isn't right but Chrysler corporate won't okay a repair, hence the dealership won't get reimbursed for the work and parts. Sucks to be a Chrysler consumer these days.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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I'm very happy to read this post, because I though I was alone to have this problem.
It happens to me only when the transmission is cold. On summer, the 5 first minutes of driving, and on winter, the first 20 minutes.
I have learned to shift slowlier.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Same notchy 2nd gear shift here. Haven't complained about it to the dealer so far and unless it worsens will probably just treat this as being part of my Jeep's "character".
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by J.Ro

1 more thing. Can you all feel vibration in the stick if you leave your hand on it while driving. Nothing bad again hand on the audi shifter while drining and smooth/nothing but on the jeep you feel it vibrate. It does not dance around tight but vibrate is what I would say. Thanks.
The difference here is that the tranny in your audi is not direct mount to a trans... the audi uses cables to get it to the tranny so it is isolated from the transmission vibrations
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Same thing happens to me in my 2008. I had a 2007 before, and it shifted VERY smooth in all gears. I got the 2008 when it was warmer, so I didn't really notice it until this winter. Until everything warms up, it grinds into 2nd, after 20 minutes or so, it shifts smoother but it's still there. I haven't mentioned this to my dealer yet. It is good to hear this is "normal".
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Viperdave
The difference here is that the tranny in your audi is not direct mount to a trans... the audi uses cables to get it to the tranny so it is isolated from the transmission vibrations
this is true...


for those concerned
...again, the manual trani in our Jeeps characteristically shifts a little hard from 1st to 2nd most notably when it's cold, if someone out there is telling you 'that's not right' then they're not right...it's not bad for the transmission (unless your jamming it in angrily) or a sign of something wrong, just about every manual JK I've encountered now does the same thing...just a quirk of the trani, when it's cold just take it easy shifting from first to second, feel it in
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackNorthernJK
this is true...


for those concerned
...again, the manual trani in our Jeeps characteristically shifts a little hard from 1st to 2nd most notably when it's cold, if someone out there is telling you 'that's not right' then they're not right...it's not bad for the transmission (unless your jamming it in angrily) or a sign of something wrong, just about every manual JK I've encountered now does the same thing...just a quirk of the trani, when it's cold just take it easy shifting from first to second, feel it in
Well, I've had two different transmission techs at two different dealerships tell me it's not right. It's odd that some 6 speeds do this and some don't. That tells me that there is something out of spec in some of them. I've made my living as a precision machinist for over 30 years and I've seen enough stuff out of spec when new to believe there is something amiss inside the trannys that do this. If they all did it, then maybe I'd agree that this is normal function of the Getrag gearbox, but they all don't have this issue. I agree that it probably isn't harmful to the transmission, but it still tells me that it's a crappy job of QC on Chrysler's part. They know about the issue yet keep putting the same product in the 2009 JKs.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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My local dealer fixed mine again...(4th trip) related to manual issues. The first two were TSBs for rattling clutches, the 3rd was a leaking hyd-clutch slave cyl, the 4th (1 month ago) was popping out of gear and they replaced the shifter mechanism in the tower of the shifter. Not the handle itself but he actual gear selector located in the top of the tranny. It was warrantied but we I they explained to me they had to contact Chrysler and their experts determined this was the issue and it was not worn gears/syncros. Mine was popping out of 2nd & 4th and Reverse was hard to shift into most of the time. They fixed it of course but I was told by Allen Samuels that since I had all these modifications they may not warranty this stuff in the future. Of course that didn't fly with me since I just have a 2.5" TF BB and stock everything else and we had a nice little discussion how I'd use my damn warranty for 3yrs or 36k miles unless I purchased an extended and that indeed they "would" fix problems unrelated to my humble coil spacers. Talk about frustrate somebody, here they are installing 4" lifts and selling them with a warranty and whining about my little lift. This is a 5-star dealership and I've never had an issue with them other than this nonsense. Bottom line is Chrysler is hurting financially and now they are crawfishing on "what's considered" warranty work.

...steps off his soapbox...I feel better now.

Oh yeah no shifting issues whatsoever so have them fix your tower.

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Mine does this. Well, mine grinds (not a click--a low grind just like you're abusing the tranny) going into 2nd when the tranny oil is cold. Note that I said "tranny oil", not engine coolant. It does take about 20 minutes for the tranny to warm up on a cold (below freezing) morning--well after the engine temp gauge is in the normal range. Or, I can warm-up the vehicle in 1st gear, but with the transfer case in neutral. That gets those gears spinning and warms up the lube. I use that technique if I have to scrape ice, otherwise I just shift very slowly. Since it's my understanding that the tranny already has synthetic fluid, I don't see how switching fluids would help, but I need to change the fluid this month so maybe I'll try something else. Royal Purple? Amzoil? Both have folks who say it works better than whatever the factory chose.

BTW: I've driven manuals all of my adult life (I'm 59). The only other tranny that did anything similar to this was in my 1963 Karmann Ghia convertible--and that was on the shift from 2nd to 1st because it did not have a synchronizer gear. I know the JKs do it, but better design/manufacturing to closer tolerances would eliminate this. I guess it's just part of the vehicle's character, and in two decades we will talk affectionately about how the old JKs use to grind when cold-shifted from first to second.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepgrnjk
I agree just slow down from 1 to 2 when cold it shifts fine. As for driving worse try a semi when it is cold I'll take my tranny any day.
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Originally Posted by BlackNorthernJK
I've driven a ton of manuals over the years that have the same shifting clunkiness from 1st to 2nd, from Fords, to GM's ...well, mostly domestic made, even though the jk manual transmission was an outsourced geman made trani from what I've read....regardless, I'm gonna have to say yah it's pretty normal...if you prefer common, fine....but it's certainly not detrimental, or cause for concern, it's just how it happens to be....doesn't concern me or bother me at all, but I can't tell anyone else what they need to be bothered by....when my trani explodes I'll let you know
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Originally Posted by GreytSilly
I've run out of dealerships to take it to in my area. Chrysler should still stand behind their product and okay the repair. Both of the dealerships I went to had transmission techs who I talked to and they both told me that the shift isn't right but Chrysler corporate won't okay a repair, hence the dealership won't get reimbursed for the work and parts. Sucks to be a Chrysler consumer these days.
No offense to you, and you may have a legitimate problem. Just because 2 tech's said that it's not right doesn't mean that it's not. It's pretty stiff shiffing from first to second, but I really don't think it's that big of a deal. Maybe yours is worse than mine???
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