P0430 and brake lines
#21
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You'll like this link to the complete 2008 JK Mopar parts list:
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...5/#post4340062
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...5/#post4340062
Last edited by Mr.T; 04-14-2019 at 12:45 PM.
#22
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So after ordering from Mopar Wholesale I got this email response back.
According to Mopar this hose was updated and the ABS sensor needs to be changed as well and re-routed. This is the note Mopar has in our catalog:
"Per engineering ruling: from 52060045AH to 68171943AF, order new hose 68171943AF for the hose and 68003281AD for the sensor. DO NOT use 56044144AD. Reroute along axle spring seat and secure with tie strap."
This is the only hose that requires a new sensor.
New hose 68171943AF $33.52
New sensor 68003281AD $21.85
Does anyone know why this sensor needs to be replaced? I know my front wheel speed sensors are covered under an extended 15 year warranty. I also hate screwing around with the braking system and Im having second thoughts about replacing these hoses now. Has anyone recently done all new mopar hoses? It doesn't seem like many have replaced brake hoses with factory, but rather just extended aftermarket. if you were to put extended aftermarket would you still have to change out this sensor?
According to Mopar this hose was updated and the ABS sensor needs to be changed as well and re-routed. This is the note Mopar has in our catalog:
"Per engineering ruling: from 52060045AH to 68171943AF, order new hose 68171943AF for the hose and 68003281AD for the sensor. DO NOT use 56044144AD. Reroute along axle spring seat and secure with tie strap."
This is the only hose that requires a new sensor.
New hose 68171943AF $33.52
New sensor 68003281AD $21.85
Does anyone know why this sensor needs to be replaced? I know my front wheel speed sensors are covered under an extended 15 year warranty. I also hate screwing around with the braking system and Im having second thoughts about replacing these hoses now. Has anyone recently done all new mopar hoses? It doesn't seem like many have replaced brake hoses with factory, but rather just extended aftermarket. if you were to put extended aftermarket would you still have to change out this sensor?
#23
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Based upon the instructions say to route the sensor wire along the axle perch. That routing requires the sensors with the longer wires. The diffence in speed sensor part numbers are likely the shorter vs longer wire speed sensors.
I prefer the new routing, and made sure to get the longer wire speed sensors when I replaced mine. The routing of the shorter wires allowed the wire to dangle around in the wheel well area and rub against the shock, thus risking damage. FCA improved the design for the better with the new PN and routing in my opinion.
But yeah, the old PN sensor still works. The changes are only in wire length and additional mounting points on the new part to accomodate the new routing.
I prefer the new routing, and made sure to get the longer wire speed sensors when I replaced mine. The routing of the shorter wires allowed the wire to dangle around in the wheel well area and rub against the shock, thus risking damage. FCA improved the design for the better with the new PN and routing in my opinion.
But yeah, the old PN sensor still works. The changes are only in wire length and additional mounting points on the new part to accomodate the new routing.
Last edited by Rednroll; 04-28-2019 at 09:41 AM.
#24
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This may or may not help you. I think I have the longer sensors, I can't recall. I know I have longer brake lines though and with the lift, they don't get in the way. I've eliminated one of the mounting points and it makes the line reach a little longer and makes it less susceptible to debris. Pictures below.
#25
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Originally Posted by karls10jk
This may or may not help you. I think I have the longer sensors, I can't recall. I know I have longer brake lines though and with the lift, they don't get in the way. I've eliminated one of the mounting points and it makes the line reach a little longer and makes it less susceptible to debris. Pictures below.
In order to change the brake hose it looks as if I'll need a flare nut wrench. Do you happen to know what size so the set that I order is correct?
#27
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But this now brings me to another type of wrench question. I am looking for a combination wrench that is the correct size for the caliper brake bleed. I am looking for something that is half or even more the thickness of my current craftsman wrenches.
If I put the MityVac hose on the brake bleed, I don't have enough room to crack the valve open. I need a wrench that is very thin that can fit under it while the hose is attached. Any suggestions for a set I can buy?
If I put the MityVac hose on the brake bleed, I don't have enough room to crack the valve open. I need a wrench that is very thin that can fit under it while the hose is attached. Any suggestions for a set I can buy?
#28
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I didn't use a flare nut wrench for the hose change but for the slide pin bolts I've got a 15 mm wrench that I shaved down with a grinder so it fits without interference. You can buy a cheap wrench and shave it down. If you want to get the box side and use a saw then you can create your own flare nut wrench then hit it with the grinder so it fits.
#29
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I didn't use a flare nut wrench for the hose change but for the slide pin bolts I've got a 15 mm wrench that I shaved down with a grinder so it fits without interference. You can buy a cheap wrench and shave it down. If you want to get the box side and use a saw then you can create your own flare nut wrench then hit it with the grinder so it fits.
#30
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I went to autozone and picked up a metric Duralast flare nut set of wrenches for like $8 when I did mine.